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Shemot 18, Bemidbar 11, and Devarim 1</h1>
 
Shemot 18, Bemidbar 11, and Devarim 1</h1>
  
<p>Below are some of the central points of dispute (נקודות המחלוקת) between the various exegetes:</p>
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<p>These are some of the central points of dispute (נקודות המחלוקת) between the various exegetes:</p>
 
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<topic><aht page="Chronology – Shemot 18">Chronology of Shemot 18</aht>
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<topic><a href="Chronology – Shemot 18" data-aht="page">Chronology of Shemot 18</a>
<opinion>All of Chapter 18 (with the possible exception of Yitro's departure) occurred during the second month of the first year – <multilink><aht source="Ramban18-1">Ramban</aht><aht source="Ramban18-1">Shemot 18:1</aht><aht source="RambanDevarim1-9">Devarim 1:9</aht><aht source="RambanDevarim1-18">Devarim 1:18</aht><aht subpage="2#R.Yochanan-Ramban" class="analysis">Analysis – Assistants</aht><aht page="Chronology – Shemot 18/2#YitroDepartedLater" class="analysis">Analysis – Chronology</aht></multilink>, <multilink><aht source="Kaspi18-1">Ibn Kaspi</aht><aht source="Kaspi18-1">Shemot 18:1</aht><aht source="KaspiDevarim1-9">Devarim 1:9</aht><aht subpage="2#R.Yochanan-Ramban" class="analysis">Analysis – Assistants</aht><aht page="Chronology – Shemot 18/2#In2ndMonth" class="analysis">Analysis – Chronology</aht></multilink>.</opinion>
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<opinion>All of Chapter 18 (with the possible exception of Yitro's departure) occurred during the second month of the first year – <multilink><a href="Ramban18-1" data-aht="source">Ramban</a><a href="Ramban18-1" data-aht="source">Shemot 18:1</a><a href="RambanDevarim1-9" data-aht="source">Devarim 1:9</a><a href="RambanDevarim1-18" data-aht="source">Devarim 1:18</a><a href="2#R.Yochanan-Ramban" data-aht="subpage" class="analysis">Analysis – Assistants</a><a href="Chronology – Shemot 18/2#YitroDepartedLater" data-aht="page" class="analysis">Analysis – Chronology</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="Kaspi18-1" data-aht="source">Ibn Kaspi</a><a href="Kaspi18-1" data-aht="source">Shemot 18:1</a><a href="KaspiDevarim1-9" data-aht="source">Devarim 1:9</a><a href="2#R.Yochanan-Ramban" data-aht="subpage" class="analysis">Analysis – Assistants</a><a href="Chronology – Shemot 18/2#In2ndMonth" data-aht="page" class="analysis">Analysis – Chronology</a></multilink>.</opinion>
<opinion>Yitro arrived and also gave his advice (18:1-23) during the second month of the first year, but Moshe appointed the judges (18:24-27) only in the second year – <aht source="Akeidat43">Akeidat Yitzchak 43</aht>, Abarbanel, Malbim.</opinion>
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<opinion>Yitro arrived and also gave his advice (18:1-23) during the second month of the first year, but Moshe appointed the judges (18:24-27) only in the second year – <a href="Akeidat43" data-aht="source">Akeidat Yitzchak 43</a>, Abarbanel, Malbim.</opinion>
 
<opinion>All of Chapter 18 took place only in the second year after the Tabernacle was already built – Ibn Ezra.</opinion>
 
<opinion>All of Chapter 18 took place only in the second year after the Tabernacle was already built – Ibn Ezra.</opinion>
 
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<topic>To what does "<aht page="Literary:Chronology#BaetHahi">בעת ההיא</aht>" (Devarim 1:9) refer?
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<topic>To what does "<a href="Literary:Chronology#BaetHahi" data-aht="page">בעת ההיא</a>" (Devarim 1:9) refer?
 
<opinion>A time period prior to the previous story – R. Yochanan in Devarim Rabbah 1:10, Ramban, Ibn Kaspi.</opinion>
 
<opinion>A time period prior to the previous story – R. Yochanan in Devarim Rabbah 1:10, Ramban, Ibn Kaspi.</opinion>
 
<opinion>The same time as the previous story – R. Chiyya in Devarim Rabbah 1:10, Sifre Zuta, Ibn Ezra, Abarbanel, Malbim, Hoil Moshe.</opinion>
 
<opinion>The same time as the previous story – R. Chiyya in Devarim Rabbah 1:10, Sifre Zuta, Ibn Ezra, Abarbanel, Malbim, Hoil Moshe.</opinion>
 
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<topic><aht page="Did Moshe Need Yitro's Advice">Did Moshe Need Yitro's advice?</aht>
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<topic><a href="Did Moshe Need Yitro's Advice" data-aht="page">Did Moshe Need Yitro's advice?</a>
 
<opinion>Yes – Ibn Kaspi, Akeidat Yitzchak.</opinion>
 
<opinion>Yes – Ibn Kaspi, Akeidat Yitzchak.</opinion>
 
<opinion>No – Abarbanel.</opinion>
 
<opinion>No – Abarbanel.</opinion>
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<topic>Did Moshe implement Yitro's advice as given?
 
<topic>Did Moshe implement Yitro's advice as given?
<opinion>He implemented to the letter – Ma'asei HaShem.</opinion>
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<opinion>He implemented to the letter – Ma'asei Hashem.</opinion>
 
<opinion>He made significant changes – Abarbanel.</opinion>
 
<opinion>He made significant changes – Abarbanel.</opinion>
 
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<opinion>Devarim 1 recaps Bemidbar 11 and not Shemot 18 – R. Chiyya, Sifre Zuta</opinion>
 
<opinion>Devarim 1 recaps Bemidbar 11 and not Shemot 18 – R. Chiyya, Sifre Zuta</opinion>
 
<opinion>Moshe's implementation differed significantly from Yitro's advice – Abarbanel</opinion>
 
<opinion>Moshe's implementation differed significantly from Yitro's advice – Abarbanel</opinion>
<opinion>In Devarim 1 Moshe is concerned only with the implementation, and not the genesis of the idea – <aht source="MaaseiHaShem5">Ma'asei HaShem, Ma'aseh Torah 5</aht></opinion>
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<opinion>In Devarim 1 Moshe is concerned only with the implementation, and not the genesis of the idea – <a href="MaaseiHashem5" data-aht="source">Ma'asei Hashem, Ma'aseh Torah 5</a></opinion>
 
<opinion>Yitro's modesty or Moshe's embarrassment over Zipporah – Ramban</opinion>
 
<opinion>Yitro's modesty or Moshe's embarrassment over Zipporah – Ramban</opinion>
 
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<topic><aht page="Yitro's System – A Bloated Bureaucracy">The function of the "rulers" of thousands, hundreds, fifties, and tens:</aht>
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<topic><a href="Yitro's System – A Bloated Bureaucracy" data-aht="page">The function of the "rulers" of thousands, hundreds, fifties, and tens:</a>
 
<opinion>Purely judicial – </opinion>
 
<opinion>Purely judicial – </opinion>
 
<opinion>Judicial and administrative – Abarbanel, Malbim.</opinion>
 
<opinion>Judicial and administrative – Abarbanel, Malbim.</opinion>
 
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<topic><aht page="Long Lines of Litigants">Was there always a need for assistants or only at certain points</aht>?
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<topic><a href="Long Lines of Litigants" data-aht="page">Was there always a need for assistants or only at certain points</a>?
 
<opinion>Always – </opinion>
 
<opinion>Always – </opinion>
 
<opinion>Only on that day – R. Medan.</opinion>
 
<opinion>Only on that day – R. Medan.</opinion>

Latest revision as of 07:48, 12 January 2015

Appointing Moshe's Assistants in
Shemot 18, Bemidbar 11, and Devarim 1

Points of Dispute

These are some of the central points of dispute (נקודות המחלוקת) between the various exegetes: