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Shemot 18, Bemidbar 11, and Devarim 1</h1> | Shemot 18, Bemidbar 11, and Devarim 1</h1> | ||
− | + | <p>These are some of the central points of dispute (נקודות המחלוקת) between the various exegetes:</p> | |
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− | <topic>< | + | <topic><a href="Chronology – Shemot 18" data-aht="page">Chronology of Shemot 18</a> |
− | <opinion>All of Chapter 18 (with the possible exception of Yitro's departure) occurred during the second month of the first year – <multilink>< | + | <opinion>All of Chapter 18 (with the possible exception of Yitro's departure) occurred during the second month of the first year – <multilink><a href="Ramban18-1" data-aht="source">Ramban</a><a href="Ramban18-1" data-aht="source">Shemot 18:1</a><a href="RambanDevarim1-9" data-aht="source">Devarim 1:9</a><a href="RambanDevarim1-18" data-aht="source">Devarim 1:18</a><a href="2#R.Yochanan-Ramban" data-aht="subpage" class="analysis">Analysis – Assistants</a><a href="Chronology – Shemot 18/2#YitroDepartedLater" data-aht="page" class="analysis">Analysis – Chronology</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="Kaspi18-1" data-aht="source">Ibn Kaspi</a><a href="Kaspi18-1" data-aht="source">Shemot 18:1</a><a href="KaspiDevarim1-9" data-aht="source">Devarim 1:9</a><a href="2#R.Yochanan-Ramban" data-aht="subpage" class="analysis">Analysis – Assistants</a><a href="Chronology – Shemot 18/2#In2ndMonth" data-aht="page" class="analysis">Analysis – Chronology</a></multilink>.</opinion> |
− | <opinion>Yitro arrived and also gave his advice (18:1-23) during the second month of the first year, but Moshe appointed the judges (18:24-27) only in the second year – <aht | + | <opinion>Yitro arrived and also gave his advice (18:1-23) during the second month of the first year, but Moshe appointed the judges (18:24-27) only in the second year – <a href="Akeidat43" data-aht="source">Akeidat Yitzchak 43</a>, Abarbanel, Malbim.</opinion> |
<opinion>All of Chapter 18 took place only in the second year after the Tabernacle was already built – Ibn Ezra.</opinion> | <opinion>All of Chapter 18 took place only in the second year after the Tabernacle was already built – Ibn Ezra.</opinion> | ||
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− | <topic>To what does "< | + | <topic>To what does "<a href="Literary:Chronology#BaetHahi" data-aht="page">בעת ההיא</a>" (Devarim 1:9) refer? |
<opinion>A time period prior to the previous story – R. Yochanan in Devarim Rabbah 1:10, Ramban, Ibn Kaspi.</opinion> | <opinion>A time period prior to the previous story – R. Yochanan in Devarim Rabbah 1:10, Ramban, Ibn Kaspi.</opinion> | ||
<opinion>The same time as the previous story – R. Chiyya in Devarim Rabbah 1:10, Sifre Zuta, Ibn Ezra, Abarbanel, Malbim, Hoil Moshe.</opinion> | <opinion>The same time as the previous story – R. Chiyya in Devarim Rabbah 1:10, Sifre Zuta, Ibn Ezra, Abarbanel, Malbim, Hoil Moshe.</opinion> | ||
</topic> | </topic> | ||
− | <topic>< | + | <topic><a href="Did Moshe Need Yitro's Advice" data-aht="page">Did Moshe Need Yitro's advice?</a> |
<opinion>Yes – Ibn Kaspi, Akeidat Yitzchak.</opinion> | <opinion>Yes – Ibn Kaspi, Akeidat Yitzchak.</opinion> | ||
<opinion>No – Abarbanel.</opinion> | <opinion>No – Abarbanel.</opinion> | ||
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<topic>Did Moshe implement Yitro's advice as given? | <topic>Did Moshe implement Yitro's advice as given? | ||
− | <opinion>He implemented to the letter – Ma'asei | + | <opinion>He implemented to the letter – Ma'asei Hashem.</opinion> |
<opinion>He made significant changes – Abarbanel.</opinion> | <opinion>He made significant changes – Abarbanel.</opinion> | ||
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<opinion>Devarim 1 recaps Bemidbar 11 and not Shemot 18 – R. Chiyya, Sifre Zuta</opinion> | <opinion>Devarim 1 recaps Bemidbar 11 and not Shemot 18 – R. Chiyya, Sifre Zuta</opinion> | ||
<opinion>Moshe's implementation differed significantly from Yitro's advice – Abarbanel</opinion> | <opinion>Moshe's implementation differed significantly from Yitro's advice – Abarbanel</opinion> | ||
− | <opinion>In Devarim 1 Moshe is concerned only with the implementation, and not the genesis of the idea – <aht | + | <opinion>In Devarim 1 Moshe is concerned only with the implementation, and not the genesis of the idea – <a href="MaaseiHashem5" data-aht="source">Ma'asei Hashem, Ma'aseh Torah 5</a></opinion> |
<opinion>Yitro's modesty or Moshe's embarrassment over Zipporah – Ramban</opinion> | <opinion>Yitro's modesty or Moshe's embarrassment over Zipporah – Ramban</opinion> | ||
</topic> | </topic> | ||
− | <topic>< | + | <topic><a href="Yitro's System – A Bloated Bureaucracy" data-aht="page">The function of the "rulers" of thousands, hundreds, fifties, and tens:</a> |
<opinion>Purely judicial – </opinion> | <opinion>Purely judicial – </opinion> | ||
<opinion>Judicial and administrative – Abarbanel, Malbim.</opinion> | <opinion>Judicial and administrative – Abarbanel, Malbim.</opinion> | ||
</topic> | </topic> | ||
− | <topic>< | + | <topic><a href="Long Lines of Litigants" data-aht="page">Was there always a need for assistants or only at certain points</a>? |
<opinion>Always – </opinion> | <opinion>Always – </opinion> | ||
− | <opinion>Only on that day – R. | + | <opinion>Only on that day – R. Medan.</opinion> |
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Latest revision as of 06:48, 12 January 2015
Appointing Moshe's Assistants in
Shemot 18, Bemidbar 11, and Devarim 1
Points of Dispute
These are some of the central points of dispute (נקודות המחלוקת) between the various exegetes:
- All of Chapter 18 (with the possible exception of Yitro's departure) occurred during the second month of the first year – Ramban, Ibn Kaspi.
- Yitro arrived and also gave his advice (18:1-23) during the second month of the first year, but Moshe appointed the judges (18:24-27) only in the second year – Akeidat Yitzchak 43, Abarbanel, Malbim.
- All of Chapter 18 took place only in the second year after the Tabernacle was already built – Ibn Ezra.
- To what does "בעת ההיא" (Devarim 1:9) refer?
- A time period prior to the previous story – R. Yochanan in Devarim Rabbah 1:10, Ramban, Ibn Kaspi.
- The same time as the previous story – R. Chiyya in Devarim Rabbah 1:10, Sifre Zuta, Ibn Ezra, Abarbanel, Malbim, Hoil Moshe.
- Yes – Ibn Kaspi, Akeidat Yitzchak.
- No – Abarbanel.
- Did Moshe implement Yitro's advice as given?
- He implemented to the letter – Ma'asei Hashem.
- He made significant changes – Abarbanel.
- Why doesn't Moshe give credit to Yitro in Devarim 1?
- Devarim 1 recaps Bemidbar 11 and not Shemot 18 – R. Chiyya, Sifre Zuta
- Moshe's implementation differed significantly from Yitro's advice – Abarbanel
- In Devarim 1 Moshe is concerned only with the implementation, and not the genesis of the idea – Ma'asei Hashem, Ma'aseh Torah 5
- Yitro's modesty or Moshe's embarrassment over Zipporah – Ramban
- Purely judicial –
- Judicial and administrative – Abarbanel, Malbim.
- Always –
- Only on that day – R. Medan.