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<approaches>
 
<approaches>
 
<category name="">Everyone Saved
 
<category name="">Everyone Saved
<p>These commentators agree that Avraham wanted all of the people in Sedom to be saved.&#160; But, they disagree about who Avraham was actually praying for:</p>
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<p>&#160;Avraham wanted all of the people in Sedom to be saved.&#160; Commentators disagree, though, about whom Avraham was actively praying:</p>
 
<opinion name="">Righteous and Sinners Saved
 
<opinion name="">Righteous and Sinners Saved
 
<p>Avraham was praying for everyone in Sedom to be saved, both the righteous and the sinners.</p>
 
<p>Avraham was praying for everyone in Sedom to be saved, both the righteous and the sinners.</p>
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<point><b>"הַאַף תִּסְפֶּה צַדִּיק עִם רָשָׁע"</b></point>
 
<point><b>"הַאַף תִּסְפֶּה צַדִּיק עִם רָשָׁע"</b></point>
 
<point><b>"הַאַף תִּסְפֶּה וְלֹא תִשָּׂא לַמָּקוֹם"</b></point>
 
<point><b>"הַאַף תִּסְפֶּה וְלֹא תִשָּׂא לַמָּקוֹם"</b></point>
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<point><b>Relationship between verses 23-25</b></point>
 
<point><b>Collective Punishment</b></point>
 
<point><b>Collective Punishment</b></point>
 
<point><b>What happened at the end?</b></point>
 
<point><b>What happened at the end?</b></point>
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</opinion>
 
</opinion>
 
<opinion name="">Just Sinners Saved
 
<opinion name="">Just Sinners Saved
<p>Avraham was sure that Hashem was going to save the righteous so he was only praying that the sinners will be saved.</p>
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<p>Avraham was only praying for the sinners, being certain that Hashem would save the righteous even without his request.</p>
 
<mekorot><multilink><a href="RSRHirschBereshit18-23-25" data-aht="source">R. S"R Hirsch</a><a href="RSRHirschBereshit18-23-25" data-aht="source">Bereshit 18:23-25</a><a href="R. Samson Raphael Hirsch" data-aht="parshan">About R. Samson Raphael Hirsch</a></multilink></mekorot>
 
<mekorot><multilink><a href="RSRHirschBereshit18-23-25" data-aht="source">R. S"R Hirsch</a><a href="RSRHirschBereshit18-23-25" data-aht="source">Bereshit 18:23-25</a><a href="R. Samson Raphael Hirsch" data-aht="parshan">About R. Samson Raphael Hirsch</a></multilink></mekorot>
 
<point><b>"הַאַף תִּסְפֶּה צַדִּיק עִם רָשָׁע"</b></point>
 
<point><b>"הַאַף תִּסְפֶּה צַדִּיק עִם רָשָׁע"</b></point>
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</category>
 
</category>
 
<category name="">Only Righteous Saved
 
<category name="">Only Righteous Saved
<p>Avraham was only praying that the righteous should not die in the rest of the city's sins.</p>
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<p>Avraham was praying only for the righteous, that they should not die due to the rest of the people's sins.</p>
 
<mekorot><multilink><a href="SefornoBereshit18-2426" data-aht="source">Seforno</a><a href="SefornoBereshit18-17" data-aht="source">Bereshit 18:17</a><a href="SefornoBereshit18-2426" data-aht="source">Bereshit 18:24, 26</a><a href="R. Ovadyah Seforno" data-aht="parshan">About R. Ovadyah Seforno</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="BiurBereshit18-232426" data-aht="source">Biur</a><a href="BiurBereshit18-232426" data-aht="source">Bereshit 18:23, 24, 26</a><a href="Biur" data-aht="parshan">About the Biur</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RYSReggioBereshit18-232426" data-aht="source">R. Y"S Reggio</a><a href="RYSReggioBereshit18-18" data-aht="source">Bereshit 18:18</a><a href="RYSReggioBereshit18-232426" data-aht="source">Bereshit 18:23, 24, 26</a><a href="R. Yitzchak Shemuel Reggio (Yashar)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yitzchak Shemuel Reggio</a></multilink></mekorot>
 
<mekorot><multilink><a href="SefornoBereshit18-2426" data-aht="source">Seforno</a><a href="SefornoBereshit18-17" data-aht="source">Bereshit 18:17</a><a href="SefornoBereshit18-2426" data-aht="source">Bereshit 18:24, 26</a><a href="R. Ovadyah Seforno" data-aht="parshan">About R. Ovadyah Seforno</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="BiurBereshit18-232426" data-aht="source">Biur</a><a href="BiurBereshit18-232426" data-aht="source">Bereshit 18:23, 24, 26</a><a href="Biur" data-aht="parshan">About the Biur</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RYSReggioBereshit18-232426" data-aht="source">R. Y"S Reggio</a><a href="RYSReggioBereshit18-18" data-aht="source">Bereshit 18:18</a><a href="RYSReggioBereshit18-232426" data-aht="source">Bereshit 18:23, 24, 26</a><a href="R. Yitzchak Shemuel Reggio (Yashar)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yitzchak Shemuel Reggio</a></multilink></mekorot>
 
<point><b>"הַאַף תִּסְפֶּה צַדִּיק עִם רָשָׁע"</b></point>
 
<point><b>"הַאַף תִּסְפֶּה צַדִּיק עִם רָשָׁע"</b></point>
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</category>
 
</category>
 
<category name="">Place Saved
 
<category name="">Place Saved
<p>Avraham was not praying for any of the people he was just asking that Hashem will not destroy the land itself.</p>
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<p>Avraham was not praying for the people of Sedom, but rather asking that Hashem not destroy the land itself.</p>
 
<mekorot><multilink><a href="RadakBereshit18-24" data-aht="source">Radak</a><a href="RadakBereshit18-24" data-aht="source">Bereshit 18:24</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Kimchi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="MaaseiHashemMaaseiAvot17" data-aht="source">Ma'asei Hashem</a><a href="MaaseiHashemMaaseiAvot17" data-aht="source">Ma'asei Avot 17</a><a href="R. Eliezer Ashkenazi (Maasei Hashem)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Eliezer Ashkenazi</a></multilink></mekorot>
 
<mekorot><multilink><a href="RadakBereshit18-24" data-aht="source">Radak</a><a href="RadakBereshit18-24" data-aht="source">Bereshit 18:24</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Kimchi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="MaaseiHashemMaaseiAvot17" data-aht="source">Ma'asei Hashem</a><a href="MaaseiHashemMaaseiAvot17" data-aht="source">Ma'asei Avot 17</a><a href="R. Eliezer Ashkenazi (Maasei Hashem)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Eliezer Ashkenazi</a></multilink></mekorot>
 
<point><b>"הַאַף תִּסְפֶּה צַדִּיק עִם רָשָׁע"</b></point>
 
<point><b>"הַאַף תִּסְפֶּה צַדִּיק עִם רָשָׁע"</b></point>

Version as of 10:40, 2 November 2014

Avraham's Prayer for Sedom

Exegetical Approaches

THIS TOPIC IS CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS

Everyone Saved

 Avraham wanted all of the people in Sedom to be saved.  Commentators disagree, though, about whom Avraham was actively praying:

Righteous and Sinners Saved

Avraham was praying for everyone in Sedom to be saved, both the righteous and the sinners.

"הַאַף תִּסְפֶּה צַדִּיק עִם רָשָׁע"
"הַאַף תִּסְפֶּה וְלֹא תִשָּׂא לַמָּקוֹם"
Relationship between verses 23-25
Collective Punishment
What happened at the end?
Was Avraham's Prayer Accepted?
Was Lot Righteous?
Why does Hashem tell Avraham about Sedom?

Just Sinners Saved

Avraham was only praying for the sinners, being certain that Hashem would save the righteous even without his request.

"הַאַף תִּסְפֶּה צַדִּיק עִם רָשָׁע"
"הַאַף תִּסְפֶּה וְלֹא תִשָּׂא לַמָּקוֹם"
Collective Punishment
What happened at the end?
Was Avraham's Prayer Accepted?
Was Lot Righteous?
Why does Hashem tell Avraham about Sedom?

Only Righteous Saved

Avraham was praying only for the righteous, that they should not die due to the rest of the people's sins.

"הַאַף תִּסְפֶּה צַדִּיק עִם רָשָׁע"
"הַאַף תִּסְפֶּה וְלֹא תִשָּׂא לַמָּקוֹם"
Collective Punishment
What happened at the end?
Was Avraham's Prayer Accepted?
Was Lot Righteous?
Why does Hashem tell Avraham about Sedom?

Place Saved

Avraham was not praying for the people of Sedom, but rather asking that Hashem not destroy the land itself.

"הַאַף תִּסְפֶּה צַדִּיק עִם רָשָׁע"
"הַאַף תִּסְפֶּה וְלֹא תִשָּׂא לַמָּקוֹם"
Collective Punishment
What happened at the end?
Was Avraham's Prayer Accepted?
Was Lot Righteous?
Why does Hashem tell Avraham about Sedom?