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<p>Avraham was praying for both the righteous of Sedom, and that Hashem not destroy the land itself.</p> | <p>Avraham was praying for both the righteous of Sedom, and that Hashem not destroy the land itself.</p> | ||
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− | <point><b>"הַאַף תִּסְפֶּה צַדִּיק עִם רָשָׁע"</b> – This approach | + | <point><b>"הַאַף תִּסְפֶּה צַדִּיק עִם רָשָׁע"</b> – This approach reads this verse in its simple sense, to mean that Avraham was requesting that Hashem not kill the righteous with the wicked.</point> |
− | <point><b>"הַאַף תִּסְפֶּה וְלֹא תִשָּׂא לַמָּקוֹם לְמַעַן חֲמִשִּׁים הַצַּדִּיקִם"</b> – | + | <point><b>"הַאַף תִּסְפֶּה וְלֹא תִשָּׂא לַמָּקוֹם לְמַעַן חֲמִשִּׁים הַצַּדִּיקִם"</b> – According to all these sources, these words serve as a request that Hashem should not destroy the city itself,<fn>Ma'asei Hashem rejects the possibility that the verse refers to all of the people of the city, wicked included, since it is unfathomable that Avraham should ask that sinners who had not repented should go unpunished.  In addition, he asserts that Avraham is explicitly asking that justice be done and saving the sinners is not an act of justice, but rather of mercy.</fn> but the commentators differ in their understanding of Avrahams' reasoning.   Radak asserts that Avraham was requesting that the city be saved due to the merit of the righteous people while Ma'asei Hashem maintains that Avraham did not think it just that the righteous should lose their land.<fn>He adds that Avraham might be further motivated to save the land because it belonged to him as part of Hashem's promise.</fn></point> |
− | <point><b> | + | <point><b>Meaning of "לַמָּקוֹם"</b> – This approach holds that "לַמָּקוֹם" means literally the land itself.</point> |
− | <point><b>Relationship between verses 23-25</b> – According to these commentators the verses contain two different requests, that the righteous be saved (verses 23 and 25) and that the land not be destroyed (verse 24).  According to Ma'asei Hashem the common denominator is the demand that justice be done  However, it is unclear why Avraham goes back and forth between his different requests.</point> | + | <point><b>Relationship between verses 23-25</b> – According to these commentators the verses contain two different requests, that the righteous be saved (verses 23 and 25) and that the land not be destroyed (verse 24).  According to Ma'asei Hashem the common denominator is the demand that justice be done.  However, it is unclear why Avraham goes back and forth between his different requests.</point> |
− | <point><b>Collective Punishment</b> – This approach maintains that Hashem had never planned to collectively punish Sedom; there were simply no righteous people to save.  Avraham, however, was unaware of this reality and mistakenly thought that Hashem was going to unjustly | + | <point><b>Collective Punishment</b> – This approach maintains that Hashem had never planned to collectively punish Sedom; there were simply no righteous people to save.  Avraham, however, was unaware of this reality and mistakenly thought that Hashem was going to unjustly destroy them and their land.</point> |
<point><b>Collective Salvation</b> – According to this approach both Hashem and Avraham wanted the sinners to be punished as it would be unjust for them to be saved.</point> | <point><b>Collective Salvation</b> – According to this approach both Hashem and Avraham wanted the sinners to be punished as it would be unjust for them to be saved.</point> | ||
− | <point><b>What happened at the end?</b> The land and people were destroyed since there were no righteous people.  Lot was saved, not due to his | + | <point><b>What happened at the end?</b> The land and people were destroyed since there were no righteous people.  Lot was saved, not due to his goodness, but out of kindness to Avraham.</point> |
<point><b>Was Avraham's Prayer Accepted?</b> According to this approach Avraham's prayer was not accepted at the end since there were not enough righteous people to save the land and there weren't any righteous in the city to be saved.</point> | <point><b>Was Avraham's Prayer Accepted?</b> According to this approach Avraham's prayer was not accepted at the end since there were not enough righteous people to save the land and there weren't any righteous in the city to be saved.</point> | ||
<point><b>Was Lot Righteous?</b> Radak and Ma'asei Hashem both maintain that Lot was not righteous and was only saved because of Avraham.</point> | <point><b>Was Lot Righteous?</b> Radak and Ma'asei Hashem both maintain that Lot was not righteous and was only saved because of Avraham.</point> |
Version as of 14:31, 5 November 2014
Avraham's Prayer for Sedom
Exegetical Approaches
Even for Sinners
Avraham wanted all of the people in Sedom to be saved. Commentators disagree, though, regarding whom Avraham was actively praying for:
For Both Righteous and Wicked
Avraham was praying for everyone in Sedom to be saved, both the righteous and the wicked.
Specifically for the Wicked
Avraham was only praying for the sinners, being certain that Hashem would save the righteous even without his request.
R. S"R Hirsch explains the word "תִּסְפֶּה" as to punish. He says that by killing the sinners, the righteous are also getting punished because after working hard to reform the wicked,1 it is distressful for to see them nonetheless perish.
Only for the Righteous
Avraham was praying only for the righteous, that they should not die due to the rest of the people's sins.
These commentators differ in the understanding of this verse:
- Seforno explains
- Biur and R. Y"S Reggio say
For the Physical Location
Avraham was praying for both the righteous of Sedom, and that Hashem not destroy the land itself.