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<point><b>Why was Lot saved?</b> Radak and Ma'asei Hashem both maintain that Lot was not righteous and was saved not due to his goodness, but out of kindness to Avraham.<fn>According to Radak, Avraham had not prayed for him at all, not knowing if he deserved it. Ma'asei hashem, though, maintains that Avraham had intended to pray for him individually but was not given a chance.  Hashem, who knew this desire of Avraham, granted it.</fn></point> | <point><b>Why was Lot saved?</b> Radak and Ma'asei Hashem both maintain that Lot was not righteous and was saved not due to his goodness, but out of kindness to Avraham.<fn>According to Radak, Avraham had not prayed for him at all, not knowing if he deserved it. Ma'asei hashem, though, maintains that Avraham had intended to pray for him individually but was not given a chance.  Hashem, who knew this desire of Avraham, granted it.</fn></point> | ||
− | <point><b>Why does Hashem tell Avraham about Sedom?</b> These commentators could explain like <multilink><a href="RashbamBereshit18-17" data-aht="source">Rashbam</a><a href="RashbamBereshit18-17" data-aht="source">Bereshit 18:17</a><a href="R. Shemuel b. Meir (Rashbam)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shemuel b. Meir</a></multilink> that Hashem told Avraham about Sedom because Hashem was going to destroy land which belonged to Avraham. Radak, though, says that Hashem | + | <point><b>Why does Hashem tell Avraham about Sedom?</b> These commentators could explain like <multilink><a href="RashbamBereshit18-17" data-aht="source">Rashbam</a><a href="RashbamBereshit18-17" data-aht="source">Bereshit 18:17</a><a href="R. Shemuel b. Meir (Rashbam)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shemuel b. Meir</a></multilink> that Hashem told Avraham about Sedom because Hashem was going to destroy land which belonged to Avraham.<fn>Radak, though, says that Hashem had multiple reasons for sharing with Avraham.  As most of the world was to descend form Avraham, it was only right to share His plans for them.  In addition, Hashem hoped that Avraham's children would learn from the fate of Sedom to do what is right.  [Having shared their upcoming doom with Avraham before it happened would preempt any claims that his was simply a coincidental natural disaster.] Finally, Hashem wanted Avraham to question His justice, attempt to find merits, and through the process to better understand His judgements.</fn></point> |
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<point><b>Why was Lot saved?</b> According to the Biur, Lot was not a sinner, but his choice to leave Avraham and join the corrupt of Sedom made him deserving of some level of punishment.  Due to Avraham's merits, though, Hashem decided to save him totally.</point> | <point><b>Why was Lot saved?</b> According to the Biur, Lot was not a sinner, but his choice to leave Avraham and join the corrupt of Sedom made him deserving of some level of punishment.  Due to Avraham's merits, though, Hashem decided to save him totally.</point> | ||
<point><b>Why does Hashem tell Avraham about Sedom?</b><ul> | <point><b>Why does Hashem tell Avraham about Sedom?</b><ul> | ||
− | <li><b>"לַעֲשׂוֹת צְדָקָה וּמִשְׁפָּט"</b> – Seforno explains that Hashem wanted to teach Avraham about his attributes of both mercy and justice.  Wherever there is a quorum of righteous who might be able to lead the wicked to repent, Hashem is willing to grant them a stay.  If not, though, justice will be done.<fn> | + | <li><b>"לַעֲשׂוֹת צְדָקָה וּמִשְׁפָּט"</b> – Seforno explains that Hashem wanted to teach Avraham about his attributes of both mercy and justice.  Wherever there is a quorum of righteous who might be able to lead the wicked to repent, Hashem is willing to grant them a stay.  If not, though, justice will be done.<fn>The Biur also suggests that in sharing the fate of Sedom, Hashem ensured that Avraham would teach the traits of "צְדָקָה וּמִשְׁפָּט" to his descendants, knowing that Sedom's lack thereof led to their destrcution.</fn></li> |
− | <li><b>"הָיוֹ יִהְיֶה לְגוֹי גָּדוֹל"</b> –  R. Y"S Reggio | + | <li><b>"הָיוֹ יִהְיֶה לְגוֹי גָּדוֹל"</b> –  The Biur and R. Y"S Reggio assert that since Avraham was to become a well known nation, Hashem did not want future generations to complain that Avraham had not attempted to avert the disaster.  Hashem, thus, gave him an opening to pray on Sedom's behalf.<fn>In addition, Hashem simply did not want to hide anything from Avraham, His chosen and loyal follower.</fn></li> |
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Version as of 07:25, 6 November 2014
Avraham's Prayer for Sedom
Exegetical Approaches
Even for Sinners
Avraham wanted all of the people in Sedom to be saved. Commentators disagree, though, regarding whom Avraham was actively praying for:
For Both Righteous and Wicked
Avraham was praying for everyone in Sedom to be saved, both the righteous and the wicked.
Specifically for the Wicked
Avraham was only praying for the sinners, being certain that Hashem would save the righteous even without his request.
R. S"R Hirsch does not address the meaning of the word "הַאַף" but seems to be reading the phrase as if written "הַתִּסְפֶּה אַף צַדִּיק עִם רָשָׁע". He explains the word "תִּסְפֶּה" as to punish and suggests that Avraham is pointing out that by killing the sinners, the righteous are also, unjustly getting punished. After working hard to reform the wicked,1 it is distressful for them to see the people nonetheless perish.
For the Physical Location
Avraham was praying for both the righteous of Sedom, and that Hashem not destroy the land itself.
Only for the Righteous
Avraham was praying only for the righteous, that they should not die due to the rest of the people's sins.
All these sources assume that Avraham is questioning the justice of killing the righteous together with the sinners,18 but disagree regarding the meaning of the word "הַאַף".
- R. Y"S Reggio understands it to mean "הגם" and that Avraham is saying, "Will you also kill the righteous?"
- The Biur, instead, relates the word to anger,19 and has Avraham question why Hashem needs to act with His attribute of justice, which inevitably leads to collective rather than individual punishment.20
These commentators all agree that these words are a continuation of Avraham's original argument, but differ in their specific understanding of the verse:
- In contrast to most commentators, Seforno reads these words of Avraham as a statement and not a question.21 Avraham is telling Hashem, "Even though You do not plan to save the wicked due to the righteous, it is still unfathomable that You should kill the righteous with the wicked..."22
- Biur and R. Y"S Reggio instead assert that Avraham realized that Hashem meant to destroy Sedom via a messenger23 who would not be able to differentiate between good and evil.24 He, thus, requests that Hashem save the entire immediate vicinity of the righteous so that they not perish with the wicked.25
According to this approach all three verses form one argument, that justice demands that the righteous not be killed with the sinners.
- According to Seforno, verse 23 is Avraham's opening question and then verses 24-25 together act as a reinforcing statement in which Avraham points out that although he does not expect the sinners to be saved, nonetheless the righteous should not die.
- The Biur and R. Y"S Reggio instead read verse 24 as a suggestion of how to implement the justice requested in verse 23.26 In verse 25, Avraham concludes that if his suggestion is not taken, injustice will be done.27
These sources divide in their understanding of the role of collective salvation in the story:
- According to most of these commentators, even though Avraham only spoke about saving the righteous, Hashem responded that He would be even willing to save the wicked if there were sufficient righteous people29 to merit it.30 Thus, Hashem was not only willing to avert collective punishment but also to collectively save.31
- According to the fragment from Qumran, in contrast, neither Avraham nor Hashem looked to save the sinners, as they did not deserve it. A discomfort with the concept of collective salvation is probably motivating their entire read of the story.32
- "לַעֲשׂוֹת צְדָקָה וּמִשְׁפָּט" – Seforno explains that Hashem wanted to teach Avraham about his attributes of both mercy and justice. Wherever there is a quorum of righteous who might be able to lead the wicked to repent, Hashem is willing to grant them a stay. If not, though, justice will be done.33
- "הָיוֹ יִהְיֶה לְגוֹי גָּדוֹל" – The Biur and R. Y"S Reggio assert that since Avraham was to become a well known nation, Hashem did not want future generations to complain that Avraham had not attempted to avert the disaster. Hashem, thus, gave him an opening to pray on Sedom's behalf.34