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<li><b>Beginning of rain</b> – The Arukh, Lekach Tov and <a href="RYitzchakinGlossonMsLeipzig1" data-aht="source">R. Yitzchak</a><fn>See his gloss found in Ms. Leipzig 1 of Rashi's commentary.</fn> get to the same date but through a different calculation. They assert that one needs to count seven full months from the date the rain began. Thus, 2/17 plus 7 months brings one to 9/17.<fn>A rejected opinion in Baalei haTosafot also counts from the beginning of the rain, but uses the method above, counting seven months from the second month, thereby reaching a date of 8/17.  As this is before the waters began to decrease, one must posit (as <a href="YefetbElitheKaraiteBereshit8-4" data-aht="source">R. Saadia</a> suggests) that the ark did not really land but rather somehow got stuck, despite the high water level.  If so, though, it was still half submerged, making this improbable.  In addition, it is not clear why the Torah would share such information if the event did not mark a difference in the flood levels.  <br/>This opinion would work just as well if one did not recalculate the months (one could just as easily say that on 7/17 the ark got stuck, despite the high water levels), and is only motivated by a desire to have both of the middle dates of the flood (the resting of the ark and revealing of the mountain tops) be dated to the same point.  See the point below regarding the date of 10/1.</fn></li> | <li><b>Beginning of rain</b> – The Arukh, Lekach Tov and <a href="RYitzchakinGlossonMsLeipzig1" data-aht="source">R. Yitzchak</a><fn>See his gloss found in Ms. Leipzig 1 of Rashi's commentary.</fn> get to the same date but through a different calculation. They assert that one needs to count seven full months from the date the rain began. Thus, 2/17 plus 7 months brings one to 9/17.<fn>A rejected opinion in Baalei haTosafot also counts from the beginning of the rain, but uses the method above, counting seven months from the second month, thereby reaching a date of 8/17.  As this is before the waters began to decrease, one must posit (as <a href="YefetbElitheKaraiteBereshit8-4" data-aht="source">R. Saadia</a> suggests) that the ark did not really land but rather somehow got stuck, despite the high water level.  If so, though, it was still half submerged, making this improbable.  In addition, it is not clear why the Torah would share such information if the event did not mark a difference in the flood levels.  <br/>This opinion would work just as well if one did not recalculate the months (one could just as easily say that on 7/17 the ark got stuck, despite the high water levels), and is only motivated by a desire to have both of the middle dates of the flood (the resting of the ark and revealing of the mountain tops) be dated to the same point.  See the point below regarding the date of 10/1.</fn></li> | ||
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− | <point><b>"בָּעֲשִׂירִי בְּאֶחָד לַחֹדֶשׁ נִרְאוּ רָאשֵׁי הֶהָרִים | + | <point><b>"בָּעֲשִׂירִי בְּאֶחָד לַחֹדֶשׁ נִרְאוּ רָאשֵׁי הֶהָרִים"</b> – These sources suggest that this date, too, should not be counted from the beginning of the year and almost unanimously date it to the start of the flood, reaching a date of 11/1.<fn>One exception is R. Ashkenazi, who dates it to the end of the rain, getting to the first of the twelfth month.  He is thus able to maintain consistency in the dating, having both the landing of the ark and revealing of the mountains, dated to the same event.<br/>The second exception is one of the <a href="TosafotHaShalemBereshit8-4-8" data-aht="source">Ba'alei HaTosafot </a> who also counts both events to the end of the rain, but suggests that it was a leap year. Thus, 7/17 is not the 17th of Sivan but of Iyyar and 10/1 is not the first of Elul, but the first of Av.</fn> This, of course, is inconsistent both with the dates of the start and end of the flood (dated to the beginning of the calendar year), and with the way most of these commentators dated the landing of the ark, which was to the end of the rain, not the beginning.<fn>The Arukh, Lekach Tov and R. Yitzchak who dated 7/17 also to the beginning of the rain were, in fact, only motivated to do so in order to be consistent with this dating.  They lose much of their advantage, though, by using different methods of counting.  While they reckon 7/17 to be 9/17 by adding seven full months to the date of the begininng of the flood (2/17+ 7 = 9/17), they reckon 10/1 to be 11/1 by counting ten partial months from the month in which the flood began (from month 2 to month 11, there are 10 months).</fn> They are motivated to do so, though, by their understanding of the verses regarding the sending of the doves - see point below.</point> |
<point><b>"וַיְהִי מִקֵּץ אַרְבָּעִים יוֹם" and the sending of the doves</b> – The verse does not say explicitly from which event the forty days are to be counted.  These commentators offer three different possibilities:<br/> | <point><b>"וַיְהִי מִקֵּץ אַרְבָּעִים יוֹם" and the sending of the doves</b> – The verse does not say explicitly from which event the forty days are to be counted.  These commentators offer three different possibilities:<br/> | ||
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<li><b>From when the waters began to abate</b> – According to Seder Olam Rabbah, Rashbam, and one version of R. Tam<fn>This is the way Ba'alei HaTosafot recount his position.  R. Paltiel, though, brings a different version of R. Tam, according to which he maintains that the forty days began with the landing of the ark. See below.</fn> the 40 days are counted from the first of the ninth month, after the waters began to decrease.  They suggest this so as to allow the final dove to be sent on the day the mountain tops appear, assuming that had the dove been sent any later there would be no way to explain why it could not previously find a resting place.<fn>One might question this approach on several grounds:<br/>1) One of the Ba'alei HaTosafot asks how the second dove could bring back a leaf from an olive tree, if it was sent before the mountain tops were revealed. He answers simply that the trees, being on the mountain tops, must have appeared before the tops of the mountain themselves, but he questions why this fact is not mentioned as a marker of the decreasing flood waters. [see Daat Zekenim as well.]<br/>2) This position is also somewhat difficult as it suggests that the entire passage regarding the birds (8:6-11) is achronological.  It is not clear why this would be necessary, as the verses could have easily been written in their proper place.  <br/>3) Finally, R. Paltiel further questions why, according to this approach, it took Noach two more months before he removed the cover of the ark.</fn>  This reading, though, necessitates dating the appearance of the mountains to the first of the eleventh month,<fn>The verses speak of a forty day period before sending the crow and then 21 days worth of sending doves.  Thus, if the waters began to abate on the first of the ninth month, the last dove was sent sixty days later, on the first of the eleventh month.  [This assumes that the dove was sent on the fortieth day itself, and that the end dates, 9/1 and 11/1 are included in the count.]</fn> leading to the above mentioned idea that the date mentioned in the verses, 10/1, is really dated to the beginning of the rain (and not the year).<fn>This, then, also explains the inconsistency in the dating of the landing and appearance of mountains (one to the end of the rain and the other to the start).  These sources could not date the resting of the ark from the beginning of the rain since the 190 days would not fit in the allotted time frame. Conversely, they could not date the revealing of the mountain tops from the end of the flood, for that would mean that the 61 days mentioned in the verse ended before the tops were revealed, making it impossible for the dove to land.</fn></li> | <li><b>From when the waters began to abate</b> – According to Seder Olam Rabbah, Rashbam, and one version of R. Tam<fn>This is the way Ba'alei HaTosafot recount his position.  R. Paltiel, though, brings a different version of R. Tam, according to which he maintains that the forty days began with the landing of the ark. See below.</fn> the 40 days are counted from the first of the ninth month, after the waters began to decrease.  They suggest this so as to allow the final dove to be sent on the day the mountain tops appear, assuming that had the dove been sent any later there would be no way to explain why it could not previously find a resting place.<fn>One might question this approach on several grounds:<br/>1) One of the Ba'alei HaTosafot asks how the second dove could bring back a leaf from an olive tree, if it was sent before the mountain tops were revealed. He answers simply that the trees, being on the mountain tops, must have appeared before the tops of the mountain themselves, but he questions why this fact is not mentioned as a marker of the decreasing flood waters. [see Daat Zekenim as well.]<br/>2) This position is also somewhat difficult as it suggests that the entire passage regarding the birds (8:6-11) is achronological.  It is not clear why this would be necessary, as the verses could have easily been written in their proper place.  <br/>3) Finally, R. Paltiel further questions why, according to this approach, it took Noach two more months before he removed the cover of the ark.</fn>  This reading, though, necessitates dating the appearance of the mountains to the first of the eleventh month,<fn>The verses speak of a forty day period before sending the crow and then 21 days worth of sending doves.  Thus, if the waters began to abate on the first of the ninth month, the last dove was sent sixty days later, on the first of the eleventh month.  [This assumes that the dove was sent on the fortieth day itself, and that the end dates, 9/1 and 11/1 are included in the count.]</fn> leading to the above mentioned idea that the date mentioned in the verses, 10/1, is really dated to the beginning of the rain (and not the year).<fn>This, then, also explains the inconsistency in the dating of the landing and appearance of mountains (one to the end of the rain and the other to the start).  These sources could not date the resting of the ark from the beginning of the rain since the 190 days would not fit in the allotted time frame. Conversely, they could not date the revealing of the mountain tops from the end of the flood, for that would mean that the 61 days mentioned in the verse ended before the tops were revealed, making it impossible for the dove to land.</fn></li> | ||
<li><b>From the revealing of the mountain tops</b> – The Arukh and Rashi,<fn>The explanation given here follows the printed version of Rashi's commentary.  In the <a href="RashiBereshit8-5-6" data-aht="source">Leipzig manuscript of Rashi</a>, though, this explanation is written and then crossed out, replaced in the margins of the manuscript with an explanation that matches that of Seder Olam Rabbah. The scribe writes that this is how he found the text in the manuscript of R. Shemayah, the student/scribe of Rashi. It is unclear, though, if R. Shemayah made the change by himself or under Rashi's instructions.  See also Daat Zekeinim which brings this explanation of Rashi, questions it, and then writes "לכך פירש"י" and brings the version which is similar to Seder Olam Rabbah.  For a fuller discussion of the issue, and an image of the manuscript, see <a href="Commentators:Rashi_Leipzig_1/Bereshit_8" data-aht="page">here</a>.</fn> in contrast, maintain more simply that the forty days are counted from the last date mentioned in the verses, the revealing of the mountain tops.<fn>As opposed to Seder Olam Rabbah, they can thus preserve the chronology of the chapter.</fn> They assume that the final sending of the dove must have coincided with the drying of the land on the first of the first month,<fn>Thus, 8:12 and 8:13 overlap in time, and Noach's opening of the cover of the ark is a direct response to the dove's not returning.</fn> as only this would explain why it did not return.<fn>R. Tam questions this assumption, pointing out that it is not clear why the first dove could not find a resting place, if the tops of the mountains had appeared over forty days before dove was sent. [This is what motivates his alternative suggestion above.]  Chizkuni and <a href="MinchatYehudaBereshit8-6" data-aht="source">R. Elyakim</a> suggest that doves prefer valleys, and would not nest on the mountains tops, while one of the Ba'alei HaTosafot posits that the phrase "וְלֹא מָצְאָה הַיּוֹנָה מָנוֹחַ" means that the dove did not find any food.</fn> Thus, working backwards from this date (1/1), they, too, need to suggest that the mountain tops appeared on the first of the eleventh month,<fn>R. Tam questions this calculation, pointing out that, from the appearance of the mountains on the first of the 11th month until the end of that month is only 29 days, and that the twelfth month, being a "missing" month, is also only 29 days. Thus, 61 days from the appearance of the mountains would bring one to the third of the first month, not the first. <br/> Rashi, though, was likely assuming that the dove was sent on the fortieth day itself, adding up to a 60 (not 61) day period.  Thus, if one includes both the first and last day (11/1 and 1/1) in the count, there are exactly 60 days from the revealing of the mountains to the drying of the land. See Rashi's language, "הרי ששים יום משנראו ראשי ההרים עד שחרבו פני האדמה".</fn> and that the date mentioned in the verses (10/1) is from the beginning of the rain (and not the year).<fn>This necessitates the above mentioned inconsistency in the method of dating. Rashi could not date the revealing of the mountain tops to the end of the rain (as he had regarding the resting of the ark), for that would date it to the first of the twelfth month, and would only leave a month until the drying of the land, instead of the 60 days needed according to the verses.<br/>One of the <a href="TosafotHaShalemBereshit8-5-5" data-aht="source">Ba'alei HaTosafot</a> tries to get around the problem by maintaining that the year was a leap year, giving an extra month's worth of time for all the events to occur. As such, he is able to date both the landing of the ark and the revealing of the mountains to the end of the rain, reaching dates of the 17th of Iyyar (9/17 due to the extra Adar) and the 1st of Av (12/1 due to the extra Adar). He, thus, has the same amount of days pass until the landing (with ample room for the 190 days), but because there are 13 months in the year, he still has two months after the appearance of the mountain tops to send the doves.</fn></li> | <li><b>From the revealing of the mountain tops</b> – The Arukh and Rashi,<fn>The explanation given here follows the printed version of Rashi's commentary.  In the <a href="RashiBereshit8-5-6" data-aht="source">Leipzig manuscript of Rashi</a>, though, this explanation is written and then crossed out, replaced in the margins of the manuscript with an explanation that matches that of Seder Olam Rabbah. The scribe writes that this is how he found the text in the manuscript of R. Shemayah, the student/scribe of Rashi. It is unclear, though, if R. Shemayah made the change by himself or under Rashi's instructions.  See also Daat Zekeinim which brings this explanation of Rashi, questions it, and then writes "לכך פירש"י" and brings the version which is similar to Seder Olam Rabbah.  For a fuller discussion of the issue, and an image of the manuscript, see <a href="Commentators:Rashi_Leipzig_1/Bereshit_8" data-aht="page">here</a>.</fn> in contrast, maintain more simply that the forty days are counted from the last date mentioned in the verses, the revealing of the mountain tops.<fn>As opposed to Seder Olam Rabbah, they can thus preserve the chronology of the chapter.</fn> They assume that the final sending of the dove must have coincided with the drying of the land on the first of the first month,<fn>Thus, 8:12 and 8:13 overlap in time, and Noach's opening of the cover of the ark is a direct response to the dove's not returning.</fn> as only this would explain why it did not return.<fn>R. Tam questions this assumption, pointing out that it is not clear why the first dove could not find a resting place, if the tops of the mountains had appeared over forty days before dove was sent. [This is what motivates his alternative suggestion above.]  Chizkuni and <a href="MinchatYehudaBereshit8-6" data-aht="source">R. Elyakim</a> suggest that doves prefer valleys, and would not nest on the mountains tops, while one of the Ba'alei HaTosafot posits that the phrase "וְלֹא מָצְאָה הַיּוֹנָה מָנוֹחַ" means that the dove did not find any food.</fn> Thus, working backwards from this date (1/1), they, too, need to suggest that the mountain tops appeared on the first of the eleventh month,<fn>R. Tam questions this calculation, pointing out that, from the appearance of the mountains on the first of the 11th month until the end of that month is only 29 days, and that the twelfth month, being a "missing" month, is also only 29 days. Thus, 61 days from the appearance of the mountains would bring one to the third of the first month, not the first. <br/> Rashi, though, was likely assuming that the dove was sent on the fortieth day itself, adding up to a 60 (not 61) day period.  Thus, if one includes both the first and last day (11/1 and 1/1) in the count, there are exactly 60 days from the revealing of the mountains to the drying of the land. See Rashi's language, "הרי ששים יום משנראו ראשי ההרים עד שחרבו פני האדמה".</fn> and that the date mentioned in the verses (10/1) is from the beginning of the rain (and not the year).<fn>This necessitates the above mentioned inconsistency in the method of dating. Rashi could not date the revealing of the mountain tops to the end of the rain (as he had regarding the resting of the ark), for that would date it to the first of the twelfth month, and would only leave a month until the drying of the land, instead of the 60 days needed according to the verses.<br/>One of the <a href="TosafotHaShalemBereshit8-5-5" data-aht="source">Ba'alei HaTosafot</a> tries to get around the problem by maintaining that the year was a leap year, giving an extra month's worth of time for all the events to occur. As such, he is able to date both the landing of the ark and the revealing of the mountains to the end of the rain, reaching dates of the 17th of Iyyar (9/17 due to the extra Adar) and the 1st of Av (12/1 due to the extra Adar). He, thus, has the same amount of days pass until the landing (with ample room for the 190 days), but because there are 13 months in the year, he still has two months after the appearance of the mountain tops to send the doves.</fn></li> | ||
− | <li><b>From the resting of the ark</b> – R. Tam, as brought by R. Chayim Paltiel,<fn>The Ba'alei Ha Tosafot bring a different version of his position, which fits with Seder Olam Rabbah above.</fn> and R. Eliezer Ashkenazi assert that the forty days began with the landing of the ark, which they date to the seventeenth of the ninth month.<fn>See discussion above.</fn>  R. Tam rejects Seder Olam's possibility above, asserting that Noach would have been unaware of the day in which the water started decreasing, and so he must have counted the forty days from an event he was cognizant of,<fn>One | + | <li><b>From the resting of the ark</b> – R. Tam, as brought by R. Chayim Paltiel,<fn>The Ba'alei Ha Tosafot bring a different version of his position, which fits with Seder Olam Rabbah above.</fn> and R. Eliezer Ashkenazi assert that the forty days began with the landing of the ark, which they date to the seventeenth of the ninth month.<fn>See discussion above.</fn>  R. Tam rejects Seder Olam's possibility above, asserting that Noach would have been unaware of the day in which the water started decreasing, and so he must have counted the forty days from an event he was cognizant of,<fn>One could disagree, though, for there is no need to posit that Noach reckoned the forty days himself. It is possible that the Torah is simply providing the time frame of the events for the reader.</fn> such as the landing.<fn>He might be further motivated by a desire to explain the stages in the various doves' actions. He, too, asserts that the mountain tops appeared on 11/1, but according to him, this is a few days before the first dove was sent (not when the final dove leaves). He can thus suggest that when the first dove was sent, though land was visible, it was still too wet to rest.  The second dove, though, could already find a leaf, and by the third week, it was dry enough to land. He, thus, has no problem with the fact that the dove found a leaf before the mountain tops were visible.<br/>R. Ashkenazi's motivations are different.  Desiring to count both the date of the ark's landing and the appearance of the mountains to the same event, he assumes that both are counted from the end of the rain.  As such, he posits that the mountains appeared on the first of the 12th month.  This means that he can't count the forty days from the mountain's appearance (as it would place the sending of the doves a couple of weeks after the drying of the land), leading him instead to the previously mentioned date, the landing of the ark.  His, position, though, becomes extremely difficult, since according to his calculations, even the last dove is sent more than a week before the land appears, making it unclear how it found a place to rest.  The position would only work, if he posits, lke the Rid above, that there was an extended waiting period between the sending of the crow and the sending of the doves.</fn> </li> |
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<point><b>Shifting water levels</b> – Seder Olam Rabbah, and many of these sources in its wake, assume that the water receded at a steady pace from the first of the ninth month until the mountain tops were seen two months later.  As such they calculate that they receded at a rate of one cubit  every four days.<fn>Seder Olam thus posits that when the ark landed it was still submerged in 11 cubits of water.  Ramban questions that if this were true, the ark should have sunk, as 1/3 of it was under water.</fn>  This would mean that afterwards, though, there was a drastic change in pace, since in the remaining 3 1/2 months, the water would have to go down the height of an entire mountain!  Chizkuni attempts to suggest that there was lot more volume to the water that was above the mountain tops since there were no land forms intervening.</point> | <point><b>Shifting water levels</b> – Seder Olam Rabbah, and many of these sources in its wake, assume that the water receded at a steady pace from the first of the ninth month until the mountain tops were seen two months later.  As such they calculate that they receded at a rate of one cubit  every four days.<fn>Seder Olam thus posits that when the ark landed it was still submerged in 11 cubits of water.  Ramban questions that if this were true, the ark should have sunk, as 1/3 of it was under water.</fn>  This would mean that afterwards, though, there was a drastic change in pace, since in the remaining 3 1/2 months, the water would have to go down the height of an entire mountain!  Chizkuni attempts to suggest that there was lot more volume to the water that was above the mountain tops since there were no land forms intervening.</point> | ||
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<point><b>Two sets of 150</b> – Radak assumes that the verses speak of two distinct periods of 150 days, one in which the waters rose and one during which they fell.  When the verse says, "וַיַּחְסְרוּ הַמַּיִם מִקְצֵה חֲמִשִּׁים וּמְאַת יוֹם", it is not referring to the previously mentioned days of rising waters described in Chapter 7, but rather a new unit of time depicted in Chapter 8.</point> | <point><b>Two sets of 150</b> – Radak assumes that the verses speak of two distinct periods of 150 days, one in which the waters rose and one during which they fell.  When the verse says, "וַיַּחְסְרוּ הַמַּיִם מִקְצֵה חֲמִשִּׁים וּמְאַת יוֹם", it is not referring to the previously mentioned days of rising waters described in Chapter 7, but rather a new unit of time depicted in Chapter 8.</point> | ||
<point><b>40 days of rain</b> – According to Radak, Chapter 7 is sequential and the forty days of rain do not overlap with the first set of 150 days.  Thus, between the two there were 190 days, ending on the first of the ninth month.</point> | <point><b>40 days of rain</b> – According to Radak, Chapter 7 is sequential and the forty days of rain do not overlap with the first set of 150 days.  Thus, between the two there were 190 days, ending on the first of the ninth month.</point> | ||
− | <point><b>40 day wait | + | <point><b>40 day wait</b> – Radak assumes that the forty days before the sending of the birds occurred at some point during the 150 days in which the waters decreased. </point> |
− | <point><b> | + | <point><b>How do 190 days fit into 5 months</b> – In order to fit the 190 days of rain and rising waters into the period before the landing of the ark, Radak must explain like Seder Olam Rabbah and others above, that the date given for the landing (7/17) is not counted from the beginning of the calendar year but rather from the end of the 40 days of rain.  It is, thus, equivalent to to the 17th of the ninth month, 16 days after the water began to decrease.</point> |
− | <point><b> | + | <point><b>"בָּעֲשִׂירִי בְּאֶחָד לַחֹדֶשׁ נִרְאוּ רָאשֵׁי הֶהָרִים"</b> – Radak follows Seder Olam Rabbah in counting the tenth month, when the mountains became visible, to the beginning of the flood.  Thus, according to his reckoning they appeared on the first of the eleventh month.</point> |
− | + | <point><b>"וַיְהִי מִקֵּץ אַרְבָּעִים יוֹם" and the sending of the doves</b> – Radak is inconsistent in the way he understand the timing of these events:<br/> | |
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+ | <li><b>At the end of the 150 days</b> – In his comments to 8:3, Radak suggests that the 21 days worth of sending of the birds occurred after the second set of 150 days.  He seems to be motivated by a desire to have the times mentioned in the text reach a year: 40+ 150+ 150 + 21=361, or about 12 months of 30 days each.  Such a reckoning, though, is very difficult as it assumes that the birds were sent in the second month of the second year, after Noach had removed the ark's covering and saw that the waters had already dried!<fn>In addition to the fact that there would seem to be no point is sending the doves on a fact finding mission when Noach could see the land on his own, it is also not clear why the doves would not have been able to find a place to land.  The words of the text are difficult as well, since they assume that only beacuse the dove returned with the olive leaf, did Noach know "כִּי קַלּוּ הַמַּיִם".  Finally, this dating does not work with the chornology of the verses which places the event before the drying o fthe water son the first of the first month.</fn></li> | ||
+ | <li><b>After the ark landed</b> – In his explanation to 8:6, Radak writes that the forty days be counted from when the ark landed (on 9/17),<fn>See above that Radak assumes that the date given in the verses, 7/17, is dated to the end of the rain.</fn> assuming that the starting point had to be an event that Noach was aware of.<fn>He, thus, dismisses the approach that suggests that the forty day count began when the waters stated to wane, as Noach would have had no way of knowing that.  See R. Tam above who explains the same.</fn> This would mean that the first dove was sent after the mountains were already visible,<fn>According to Radak they appeared on the first of the eleventh month and the first dove was sent on the fourth of that month.</fn> making it difficult to understand why it could not find a resting place.<fn>Another disadvantage of this reading is that it needs to assume that the verses are achronological.</fn>  One of the Ba'alei HaTosafot answers that perhaps "וְלֹא מָצְאָה הַיּוֹנָה מָנוֹחַ" means that she did did not find anything to serve as a sign for Noach and was, thus, not at peace for she did not fulfill her mission.<fn>He could have also explained that though the mountain tops were visible, it was still too wet to land.</fn>  </li> | ||
+ | <li> <b>After the mountain tops appeared</b> – A few verses later, Radak suggests that the last dove found a place to land on the first of the first month,<fn>He writes, "אז ידע נח כי חרבו פני האדמה והיונה מצאה מנוח בארץ ובעצים הרבה לפיכך לא שבה אליו, וזה היה באחת ושש מאות שנה לנח כמו שאמר ראשון באחד לחדש".</fn> which would mean that the forty days were counted from the appearance of the mountain tops, two months before.<fn>See above that he maintians that they appeared on the first of the eleventh month.  This reading of the sending of the doves matches that of Rashi above.</fn> This possibility works best with the chronology of the verses.</li> | ||
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Chronology of the Flood
Exegetical Approaches
150 Days Which Includes the First 40 Days
The two mentions of 150 days refer to the same time period and encompass the forty days of rain. The ark landed at the conclusion of these 150 days. This approach subdivides regarding how the commentators understand the chapter's dating:
Months from creation
All the months mentioned in the verses are calculated according to the yearly calendar, from creation.
- Water first decreased after 150 days - The author of the Qumran Scroll, Yefet the Karaite, Ibn Ezra,5 Ramban, and Seforno all understand the phrase "וַיַּחְסְרוּ הַמַּיִם מִקְצֵה חֲמִשִּׁים וּמְאַת יוֹם" to mean that the water only began to decrease at the end of the 150 days. Until that point the water level was either still rising, or at least, maintaining its height. Seforno suggests that even though the rain stopped after 40 days, the underground sources of water were still open,6 causing continued water pressure during this entire period.7 Ramban, in contrast, seems to maintain that though the waters did not continue to increase after the fortieth day, due to the great humidity8 they retained their height throughout this period.
- Water decreased after the forty days of rain – Most of the other commentators in this approach9 assume that the water started to recede right after the rain stopped. The phrase " וַיִּגְבְּרוּ הַמַּיִם עַל הָאָרֶץ חֲמִשִּׁים וּמְאַת יוֹם" simply means that the waters were is a state of strength (relative to normal water heights), not that they were increasing, or even maintaining their level. R"Y Bekhor Shor, R. Hoffmann and U. Cassuto explain the verse "וַיַּחְסְרוּ הַמַּיִם מִקְצֵה חֲמִשִּׁים וּמְאַת יוֹם" to mean not that the water first began to recede at this point but that the decrease was first noticeable to Noach after this period, when the ark landed.10
- Chronological –Those who maintain that the waters maintained their strength throughout the 150 days, read the verses chronologically, with Chapter 7 describing the rising flood and the opening verses of Chapter 8 detailing the decreasing waters at the end of the 150 days.11
- Achronological – The other commentators, though, assume that verses 8:2-4 (the sending of the wind and closing of the heavenly windows) occurred in the midst of the 150 days that are mentioned in the preceding chapter and that there is an element of achronology in the verses. Akeidat Yitzchak and Shadal explain that the Torah purposely separated the images of destruction and salvation, detailing the world's collapse in Chapter 7 before describing its rebuilding in Chapter 8.
- Different calendar – Several sources reject the assumption that the dates in the story are based on the Hebrew lunar calendar:
- Solar Calendar – Some commentators14 assert that the months mentioned relate to the solar calendar. According to this reckoning there are 152 days in five months and the 150 day period ended a couple of days before the ark rested.15
- Persian/Egyptian – Ibn Ezra suggests, in contrast, that Noach was using a calendar like that of the Egyptians or Persians who would intercalate their year by adding 5 days to a certain month. The total days in the five month period can thus equal or surpass 150.16
- Lunar calendar based on eyewitnesses – Yefet and Anan the Karaites maintain that Noach did use a lunar calendar, but one in which the months were determined by eyewitnesses rather than calculations.17 They assume that if no one can see the moon (as was the case when Noach was in the Ark)18 the default length of a month is thirty days.19 This allows for exactly 150 days between 2/17 and 7/17.20
- Fixed Hebrew Lunar Calendar – A last group of sources attempt to uphold the idea that the Torah is employing the Rabbinic calendar:
- Round Numbers - The Rid and U. Cassuto solve the problem by simply suggesting that 150 days is a round number. Though, in reality there were fewer days in the five month period, the Torah rounded up to the the next ten.21
- Full Leap Year - R. Saadia suggests that one can reach 150 days using a regular fixed lunar calendar if the year was a "full" leap year. In such a year, 4 of the 5 months( Marcheshvan, Kislev, Shevat and Adar I) would all have 30 days. As such 7/17 is the 150th day.22
- Receded over 110 days – According to those who say that the water started to decrease already after the 40 days of rain, this is not an issue,24 and is, in fact, one of the factors that motivate them to explain the verses as they do. Shadal even maintains that by this point the higher mountain tops were totally uncovered, and that Bereshit 8:5 describes only the revealing of the shorter mountains.
- Receded over 2 days – According to those who maintain that the waters retained their strength throughout, but that a solar calendar was used and thus the 150 period ended by the 15th of the seventh month, there was a period of two days in which the water lessened, allowing the ark to land.
- Miraculous intervention – Ramban, in contrast, is forced to assert that Hashem sent a miraculous wind which decreased the waters substantially on the 150th day itself.25
- If one posits that the water first decreased after the 150 days, then it went down only 15 cubits in the 2 1/2 months from 7/17 until 10/1 compared to thousands of cubits in the 3 months from then until the land dried on 1/1.26 Ramban explains that there is no reason to think that the water needed to decrease at a steady pace. In addition, according to him, Hashem's intervention on the first day led to a vast decrease in the water, 27 minimizing the difference in the rate of reduction thereafter slightly.28
- Those who posit that the water began to recede after the rain stopped have an even bigger problem, since according to them, initially the water receded only 15 cubits in over 180 days!29 Shadal minimizes the problem by asserting that by the time the ark landed on 7/17, more than 15 cubits of water had already receded, since Mt. Ararat was not the tallest, but rather one of the shorter mountains.30 There would, nonetheless, still seem to be a significant increase in the rate of water reduction in the last 3 months, assuming that even the shorter mountains were a few thousand cubits high.
- From the revealing of the mountain tops – Most of these commentators count the 40 days from the preceding date mentioned in the verses, the first of the tenth month, when the mountain tops were visible. They explain, that despite the fact that land had already been visible for over a month, the dove could not find a resting place either because it preferred the valleys or the air was too moist.31
- From the landing of the ark – The Rid, in contrast, counts the forty days from the landing of the ark on the seventeenth of the seventh month.32 He assumes that Noach must have waited for ten days to see how the raven was faring, then sent the first dove 7 days later and the final dove 14 days after that, reaching the first of the tenth month. It was only then, when the mountaintops were finally revealed, that the dove could rest.33
Varied Dating
Some months are counted to creation and some are dated in reference to key points during the flood.
150 Days Which Do Not Include the First 40 Days
The two mentions of 150 days are one unit of time, while the forty days of rain are a distinct unit. As such, there was a 190 day period before the waters began to decrease.
- Waters retained strength – According to Seder Olam Rabbah and the Arukh, the water stopped increasing after the forty days of rain, but maintained their level throughout.43 According to this, the phrase "וַיִּגְבְּרוּ הַמַּיִם" does not mean that the waters increased but that they stayed in their strength.
- Waters increased – According to Ba'alei HaTosafot, in contrast, even after the rain stopped, the water continued to increase throughout the 150 days. He might maintain that the waters continued to emerge from underground.44
- End of rain – Most of these commentators46 assert that the 17th of the seventh month is being counted from the month in which the rain stopped. As such, it is really equivalent to to the 17th of the ninth month,47 which gives ample time for the waters to decrease before the ark landed.48
- Beginning of rain – The Arukh, Lekach Tov and R. Yitzchak49 get to the same date but through a different calculation. They assert that one needs to count seven full months from the date the rain began. Thus, 2/17 plus 7 months brings one to 9/17.50
- From when the waters began to abate – According to Seder Olam Rabbah, Rashbam, and one version of R. Tam53 the 40 days are counted from the first of the ninth month, after the waters began to decrease. They suggest this so as to allow the final dove to be sent on the day the mountain tops appear, assuming that had the dove been sent any later there would be no way to explain why it could not previously find a resting place.54 This reading, though, necessitates dating the appearance of the mountains to the first of the eleventh month,55 leading to the above mentioned idea that the date mentioned in the verses, 10/1, is really dated to the beginning of the rain (and not the year).56
- From the revealing of the mountain tops – The Arukh and Rashi,57 in contrast, maintain more simply that the forty days are counted from the last date mentioned in the verses, the revealing of the mountain tops.58 They assume that the final sending of the dove must have coincided with the drying of the land on the first of the first month,59 as only this would explain why it did not return.60 Thus, working backwards from this date (1/1), they, too, need to suggest that the mountain tops appeared on the first of the eleventh month,61 and that the date mentioned in the verses (10/1) is from the beginning of the rain (and not the year).62
- From the resting of the ark – R. Tam, as brought by R. Chayim Paltiel,63 and R. Eliezer Ashkenazi assert that the forty days began with the landing of the ark, which they date to the seventeenth of the ninth month.64 R. Tam rejects Seder Olam's possibility above, asserting that Noach would have been unaware of the day in which the water started decreasing, and so he must have counted the forty days from an event he was cognizant of,65 such as the landing.66
Two sets of 150 Days Which Include the Second 40 Days
The verses speak of two different sets of 150 days, one in which the waters rose and one in which they receded. The forty days of rain are not included in the first unit, but the forty day wait before the sending of birds is subsumed in the second set.
- At the end of the 150 days – In his comments to 8:3, Radak suggests that the 21 days worth of sending of the birds occurred after the second set of 150 days. He seems to be motivated by a desire to have the times mentioned in the text reach a year: 40+ 150+ 150 + 21=361, or about 12 months of 30 days each. Such a reckoning, though, is very difficult as it assumes that the birds were sent in the second month of the second year, after Noach had removed the ark's covering and saw that the waters had already dried!68
- After the ark landed – In his explanation to 8:6, Radak writes that the forty days be counted from when the ark landed (on 9/17),69 assuming that the starting point had to be an event that Noach was aware of.70 This would mean that the first dove was sent after the mountains were already visible,71 making it difficult to understand why it could not find a resting place.72 One of the Ba'alei HaTosafot answers that perhaps "וְלֹא מָצְאָה הַיּוֹנָה מָנוֹחַ" means that she did did not find anything to serve as a sign for Noach and was, thus, not at peace for she did not fulfill her mission.73
- After the mountain tops appeared – A few verses later, Radak suggests that the last dove found a place to land on the first of the first month,74 which would mean that the forty days were counted from the appearance of the mountain tops, two months before.75 This possibility works best with the chronology of the verses.