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<category>Eliyahu is Alive
 
<category>Eliyahu is Alive
 
<mekorot><multilink><a href="BavliMoedKatan26a" data-aht="source">Bavli</a><a href="BavliMoedKatan26a" data-aht="source">Moed Katan 26a</a><a href="BavliBavaBatra121b" data-aht="source">Bava Batra 121b</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="BereshitRabbah21-5" data-aht="source">Bereshit Rabbah</a><a href="BereshitRabbah21-5" data-aht="source">21:5</a><a href="Bereshit Rabbah" data-aht="parshan">About Bereshit Rabbah</a></multilink>,&#160;<multilink><a href="IbnEzraMalakhi3-24" data-aht="source">Ibn Ezra</a><a href="IbnEzraMalakhi3-24" data-aht="source">Malakhi 3:24</a><a href="R. Avraham ibn Ezra" data-aht="parshan">About R. Avraham ibn Ezra</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RambanVayikra18-4" data-aht="source">Ramban</a><a href="RambanVayikra18-4" data-aht="source">Vayikra 18:4</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Nachman (Ramban, Nachmanides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe b. Nachman</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RalbagMelakhimII2-13" data-aht="source">Ralbag</a><a href="RalbagShofetim6-1" data-aht="source">Shofetim 6:1</a><a href="RalbagMelakhimI22-38" data-aht="source">Melakhim I 22:38</a><a href="RalbagMelakhimII2-13" data-aht="source">Melakhim II 2:1,3,11</a><a href="RalbagMelakhimII12-18" data-aht="source">Melakhim II 12:18</a><a href="RalbagDivreiHaYamimII21-12" data-aht="source">Divrei HaYamim II 21:12</a><a href="R. Levi b. Gershom (Ralbag, Gersonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Levi b. Gershom</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="AbarbanelMelakhimII2-12" data-aht="source">Abarbanel</a><a href="AbarbanelMelakhimII2-12" data-aht="source">Melakhim II 2:12</a><a href="R. Yitzchak Abarbanel" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yitzchak Abarbanel</a></multilink></mekorot>
 
<mekorot><multilink><a href="BavliMoedKatan26a" data-aht="source">Bavli</a><a href="BavliMoedKatan26a" data-aht="source">Moed Katan 26a</a><a href="BavliBavaBatra121b" data-aht="source">Bava Batra 121b</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="BereshitRabbah21-5" data-aht="source">Bereshit Rabbah</a><a href="BereshitRabbah21-5" data-aht="source">21:5</a><a href="Bereshit Rabbah" data-aht="parshan">About Bereshit Rabbah</a></multilink>,&#160;<multilink><a href="IbnEzraMalakhi3-24" data-aht="source">Ibn Ezra</a><a href="IbnEzraMalakhi3-24" data-aht="source">Malakhi 3:24</a><a href="R. Avraham ibn Ezra" data-aht="parshan">About R. Avraham ibn Ezra</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RambanVayikra18-4" data-aht="source">Ramban</a><a href="RambanVayikra18-4" data-aht="source">Vayikra 18:4</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Nachman (Ramban, Nachmanides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe b. Nachman</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RalbagMelakhimII2-13" data-aht="source">Ralbag</a><a href="RalbagShofetim6-1" data-aht="source">Shofetim 6:1</a><a href="RalbagMelakhimI22-38" data-aht="source">Melakhim I 22:38</a><a href="RalbagMelakhimII2-13" data-aht="source">Melakhim II 2:1,3,11</a><a href="RalbagMelakhimII12-18" data-aht="source">Melakhim II 12:18</a><a href="RalbagDivreiHaYamimII21-12" data-aht="source">Divrei HaYamim II 21:12</a><a href="R. Levi b. Gershom (Ralbag, Gersonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Levi b. Gershom</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="AbarbanelMelakhimII2-12" data-aht="source">Abarbanel</a><a href="AbarbanelMelakhimII2-12" data-aht="source">Melakhim II 2:12</a><a href="R. Yitzchak Abarbanel" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yitzchak Abarbanel</a></multilink></mekorot>
<point><b>"הַשָּׁמָיִם" - Where did Eliyahu go?</b></point>
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<point><b>"הַשָּׁמָיִם"&#160;– Where did Eliyahu go?</b></point>
 
<point><b>Where is Eliyahu now?</b></point>
 
<point><b>Where is Eliyahu now?</b></point>
 
<point><b>"מִכְתָּב מֵאֵלִיָּהוּ"</b></point>
 
<point><b>"מִכְתָּב מֵאֵלִיָּהוּ"</b></point>
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<category>Eliyahu Died
 
<category>Eliyahu Died
 
<mekorot><multilink><a href="RSaadiaGaonCommentaryBereshitAppendix1" data-aht="source">R. Saadia Gaon</a><a href="RSaadiaGaonCommentaryBereshitAppendix1" data-aht="source">Commentary Bereshit Appendix 1</a><a href="R. Saadia Gaon" data-aht="parshan">About R. Saadia Gaon</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RadakMalakhi3-23" data-aht="source">Radak</a><a href="RadakBereshit5-24" data-aht="source">Bereshit 5:24</a><a href="RadakMelakhimII2-1" data-aht="source">Melakhim II 2:1</a><a href="RadakMelakhimII2-11" data-aht="source">Melakhim II 2:11</a><a href="RadakMalakhi3-23" data-aht="source">Malakhi 3:23</a><a href="RadakDivreiHaYamimII21-12" data-aht="source">Divrei HaYamim II 21:12</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Kimchi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="HoilMosheMelakhimII2-1" data-aht="source">Hoil Moshe</a><a href="HoilMosheMelakhimII2-1" data-aht="source">Melakhim II 2:1</a><a href="R. Moshe Yitzchak Ashkenazi (Hoil Moshe)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe Yitzchak Ashkenazi</a></multilink></mekorot>
 
<mekorot><multilink><a href="RSaadiaGaonCommentaryBereshitAppendix1" data-aht="source">R. Saadia Gaon</a><a href="RSaadiaGaonCommentaryBereshitAppendix1" data-aht="source">Commentary Bereshit Appendix 1</a><a href="R. Saadia Gaon" data-aht="parshan">About R. Saadia Gaon</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RadakMalakhi3-23" data-aht="source">Radak</a><a href="RadakBereshit5-24" data-aht="source">Bereshit 5:24</a><a href="RadakMelakhimII2-1" data-aht="source">Melakhim II 2:1</a><a href="RadakMelakhimII2-11" data-aht="source">Melakhim II 2:11</a><a href="RadakMalakhi3-23" data-aht="source">Malakhi 3:23</a><a href="RadakDivreiHaYamimII21-12" data-aht="source">Divrei HaYamim II 21:12</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Kimchi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="HoilMosheMelakhimII2-1" data-aht="source">Hoil Moshe</a><a href="HoilMosheMelakhimII2-1" data-aht="source">Melakhim II 2:1</a><a href="R. Moshe Yitzchak Ashkenazi (Hoil Moshe)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe Yitzchak Ashkenazi</a></multilink></mekorot>
<point><b>"הַשָּׁמָיִם" - Where did Eliyahu go?</b> These commentators disagree what happened:<br/>
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<point><b>"הַשָּׁמָיִם"&#160;– Where did Eliyahu go?</b> These commentators disagree what happened:<br/>
 
<ul>
 
<ul>
 
<li>&#160;- R. Saadia Gaon</li>
 
<li>&#160;- R. Saadia Gaon</li>
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<point><b>"מִכְתָּב מֵאֵלִיָּהוּ"</b> – Radak explains that after Eliyahu died he came to one of the prophets ברוח הנבואה and told him to write the letter in name of Eliyahu.&#160; It is possible that R. Saadia Gaon holds that Eliyahu was still alive during Yehoram's kingship and so he wrote the letter himself.</point>
 
<point><b>"מִכְתָּב מֵאֵלִיָּהוּ"</b> – Radak explains that after Eliyahu died he came to one of the prophets ברוח הנבואה and told him to write the letter in name of Eliyahu.&#160; It is possible that R. Saadia Gaon holds that Eliyahu was still alive during Yehoram's kingship and so he wrote the letter himself.</point>
 
<point><b>Malakhi 3:23</b> – Radak holds that there is going to be תחיית המתים for Eliyahu so he can come.&#160; On the other hand, Hoil Moshe says that Eliyahu himself is not going to come.&#160; Malakhi is just saying that there will be a prophets again in Yisrael, and the prophet will be similar to Eliyahu<fn>Hoil Moshe says it is like the verse "וְעַבְדִּי דָוִד מֶלֶךְ עֲלֵיהֶם" which also refers just to a king like David but not David himself.</fn>.</point>
 
<point><b>Malakhi 3:23</b> – Radak holds that there is going to be תחיית המתים for Eliyahu so he can come.&#160; On the other hand, Hoil Moshe says that Eliyahu himself is not going to come.&#160; Malakhi is just saying that there will be a prophets again in Yisrael, and the prophet will be similar to Eliyahu<fn>Hoil Moshe says it is like the verse "וְעַבְדִּי דָוִד מֶלֶךְ עֲלֵיהֶם" which also refers just to a king like David but not David himself.</fn>.</point>
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<point><b>Why have a unique process?</b></point>
 
<point><b>Resurrection of the dead</b></point>
 
<point><b>Resurrection of the dead</b></point>
 
<point><b>What did בני הנביאים know and think?</b></point>
 
<point><b>What did בני הנביאים know and think?</b></point>

Version as of 23:26, 15 July 2015

Eliyahu's Death

Exegetical Approaches

This topic is currently in progress

Eliyahu is Alive

"הַשָּׁמָיִם" – Where did Eliyahu go?
Where is Eliyahu now?
"מִכְתָּב מֵאֵלִיָּהוּ"
Malakhi 3:23
Why didn't Eliyahu die?
Resurrection of the dead
What did בני הנביאים know and think?
"סְעָרָה"
לקיחה
Pinchas
Polemics
Philosophical motivation

Eliyahu Died

"הַשָּׁמָיִם" – Where did Eliyahu go? These commentators disagree what happened:
  •  - R. Saadia Gaon
  •  - Radak and Hoil Moshe
Where is Eliyahu now?
"מִכְתָּב מֵאֵלִיָּהוּ" – Radak explains that after Eliyahu died he came to one of the prophets ברוח הנבואה and told him to write the letter in name of Eliyahu.  It is possible that R. Saadia Gaon holds that Eliyahu was still alive during Yehoram's kingship and so he wrote the letter himself.
Malakhi 3:23 – Radak holds that there is going to be תחיית המתים for Eliyahu so he can come.  On the other hand, Hoil Moshe says that Eliyahu himself is not going to come.  Malakhi is just saying that there will be a prophets again in Yisrael, and the prophet will be similar to Eliyahu1.
Why have a unique process?
Resurrection of the dead
What did בני הנביאים know and think?
"סְעָרָה"
לקיחה
Polemics
Philosophical motivation