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<mekorot><multilink><a href="RSaadiaGaonCommentaryBereshitAppendix1" data-aht="source">R. Saadia Gaon</a><a href="RSaadiaGaonCommentaryBereshitAppendix1" data-aht="source">Commentary Bereshit Appendix 1</a><a href="R. Saadia Gaon" data-aht="parshan">About R. Saadia Gaon</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RadakMelakhimII2-1" data-aht="source">Radak</a><a href="RadakMelakhimII2-1" data-aht="source">Melakhim II 2:1</a><a href="RadakMelakhimII2-11" data-aht="source">Melakhim II 2:11</a><a href="RadakMelakhimII2-16" data-aht="source">Melakhim II 2:16</a><a href="RadakMalakhi3-23" data-aht="source">Malakhi 3:23</a><a href="RadakDivreiHaYamimII21-12" data-aht="source">Divrei HaYamim II 21:12</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Kimchi</a></multilink>,<fn>Radak also brings chazal's approach that Eliyahu lived forever.</fn> <multilink><a href="HoilMosheMelakhimII2-1" data-aht="source">Hoil Moshe</a><a href="HoilMosheMelakhimII2-1" data-aht="source">Melakhim II 2:1</a><a href="R. Moshe Yitzchak Ashkenazi (Hoil Moshe)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe Yitzchak Ashkenazi</a></multilink></mekorot>
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<mekorot><multilink><a href="RSaadiaGaonCommentaryBereshitAppendix1" data-aht="source">R. Saadia Gaon</a><a href="RSaadiaGaonCommentaryBereshitAppendix1" data-aht="source">Commentary Bereshit Appendix 1</a><a href="R. Saadia Gaon" data-aht="parshan">About R. Saadia Gaon</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RadakMelakhimII2-1" data-aht="source">Radak</a><a href="RadakMelakhimII2-1" data-aht="source">Melakhim II 2:1</a><a href="RadakMelakhimII2-11" data-aht="source">Melakhim II 2:11</a><a href="RadakMelakhimII2-16" data-aht="source">Melakhim II 2:16</a><a href="RadakMalakhi3-23" data-aht="source">Malakhi 3:23</a><a href="RadakDivreiHaYamimII21-12" data-aht="source">Divrei HaYamim II 21:12</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Kimchi</a></multilink>,<fn>Radak also brings chazal's approach that Eliyahu lived forever.</fn> <multilink><a href="BiurMelakhimII2-1" data-aht="source">Biur</a><a href="BiurMelakhimII2-1" data-aht="source">Melakhim II 2:1</a><a href="BiurMelakhimII2-14" data-aht="source">Melakhim II 2:14</a><a href="Biur (Netivot HaShalom)" data-aht="parshan">About the Biur (Netivot HaShalom)</a></multilink><multilink>, <a href="HoilMosheMelakhimII2-1" data-aht="source">Hoil Moshe</a><a href="HoilMosheMelakhimII2-1" data-aht="source">Melakhim II 2:1</a><a href="R. Moshe Yitzchak Ashkenazi (Hoil Moshe)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe Yitzchak Ashkenazi</a></multilink></mekorot>
 
<point><b>"הַשָּׁמָיִם"&#160;– Where did Eliyahu go?</b> These commentators disagree what happened:<br/>
 
<point><b>"הַשָּׁמָיִם"&#160;– Where did Eliyahu go?</b> These commentators disagree what happened:<br/>
 
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<point><b>Where is Eliyahu now?</b></point>
 
<point><b>Where is Eliyahu now?</b></point>
<point><b>"מִכְתָּב מֵאֵלִיָּהוּ"</b> – Radak explains that after Eliyahu died he came to one of the prophets ברוח הנבואה and told him to write the letter in name of Eliyahu.&#160; It is possible that R. Saadia holds that Eliyahu was still alive during Yehoram's kingship and so he wrote the letter himself.</point>
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<point><b>"מִכְתָּב מֵאֵלִיָּהוּ"</b> – These commentators disagree whether the letter was sent by Eliyahu while he was still alive or not:<br/>
<point><b>Malakhi 3:23</b> – Radak holds that there is going to be resurrection for Eliyahu so he can come.&#160; On the other hand, Hoil Moshe says that Eliyahu himself is not going to come.&#160; Malakhi is just saying that there will be a prophets again in Yisrael, and the prophet will be similar to Eliyahu<fn>Hoil Moshe says it is like the verse "וְעַבְדִּי דָוִד מֶלֶךְ עֲלֵיהֶם" which also refers just to a king like David but not David himself.</fn>.</point>
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<li>Eliyahu was dead – Radak explains that after Eliyahu died he came to one of the prophets ברוח הנבואה and told him to write the letter in the name of Eliyahu.</li>
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<li>Eliyahu was still alive – The Biur holds that Eliyahu only died during Yehoram's kingship and so was still alive when he sent the letter.<fn>The Biur explains that the story in Melakhim II 2 of Eliyahu's disappearance happened later (and is probably told since chapter 1 is the last story of Eliyahu's prophecies).&#160; During the time between Achazyahu's death and Yehoram's kingship Eliyahu did not act as a prophet (but rather was secluding) and Elisha had taken over already.</fn>&#160; It is possible that R. Saadia also holds that Eliyahu was still alive when he sent the letter, and he wrote it during Yehoram's kingship after he was taken בסערה but before he died.</li>
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<point><b>Malakhi 3:23</b> – Radak holds that there is going to be resurrection for Eliyahu so he can come.&#160; On the other hand, Hoil Moshe says that Eliyahu himself is not going to come.&#160; Malakhi is just saying that there will be a prophets again in Yisrael, and the prophet will be similar to Eliyahu.<fn>Hoil Moshe says it is like the verse "וְעַבְדִּי דָוִד מֶלֶךְ עֲלֵיהֶם" which also refers just to a king like David but not David himself.</fn></point>
 
<point><b>Why have a unique process?</b></point>
 
<point><b>Why have a unique process?</b></point>
 
<point><b>Resurrection of the dead</b></point>
 
<point><b>Resurrection of the dead</b></point>

Version as of 01:24, 20 July 2015

Eliyahu's Death

Exegetical Approaches

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Eliyahu is Alive

"הַשָּׁמָיִם" – Where did Eliyahu go?
Where is Eliyahu now?
"מִכְתָּב מֵאֵלִיָּהוּ"
Malakhi 3:23
Why didn't Eliyahu die?
Resurrection of the dead
What did בני הנביאים know and think?
"סְעָרָה"
לקיחה
Pinchas
Polemics
Philosophical motivation

Eliyahu Died

"הַשָּׁמָיִם" – Where did Eliyahu go? These commentators disagree what happened:
  •  - R. Saadia Gaon
  •  - Radak and Hoil Moshe
Where is Eliyahu now?
"מִכְתָּב מֵאֵלִיָּהוּ" – These commentators disagree whether the letter was sent by Eliyahu while he was still alive or not:
  • Eliyahu was dead – Radak explains that after Eliyahu died he came to one of the prophets ברוח הנבואה and told him to write the letter in the name of Eliyahu.
  • Eliyahu was still alive – The Biur holds that Eliyahu only died during Yehoram's kingship and so was still alive when he sent the letter.2  It is possible that R. Saadia also holds that Eliyahu was still alive when he sent the letter, and he wrote it during Yehoram's kingship after he was taken בסערה but before he died.
Malakhi 3:23 – Radak holds that there is going to be resurrection for Eliyahu so he can come.  On the other hand, Hoil Moshe says that Eliyahu himself is not going to come.  Malakhi is just saying that there will be a prophets again in Yisrael, and the prophet will be similar to Eliyahu.3
Why have a unique process?
Resurrection of the dead
What did בני הנביאים know and think? Radak says that בני הנביאים thought that maybe Eliyahu didn't die but rather disappeared (like he did regularly) and so they were looking where he was hiding.  In contrast, Hoil Moshe explains that בני הנביאים did know that Eliyahu was going to die and they were just looking for his body so they can bury it (not knowing that his body was burnt).
"סְעָרָה"
לקיחה
Polemics
Philosophical motivation