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<category>מִתְּחִלָּה עוֹבְדֵי עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה הָיוּ אֲבוֹתֵינוּ
 
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<b>Does assimilation cause persecution or does it prevent it?</b>&#160; See how&#160;<a href="Religious_Identity_in_Egypt/2#Monotheistic" data-aht="page"> R. Chasdai Crescas</a> answers this question in his analysis of the religious beliefs of the Children of Israel while in Egypt.&#160; Note how his views might be impacted by the religious persecutions in Spain in his day.&#160; Contrast with the <a href="Purposes_of_the_Egyptian_Bondage/2#Anti-Assimilation" data-aht="page">Netziv </a>in his discussion of the Purpose of the Bondage, and how he, in turn, is influenced by the events of his era.&#160; With whom do you agree?
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Does assimilation cause persecution or does it prevent it? See how R. Chasdai Crescas answers this question in his analysis of the religious beliefs of the Children of Israel while in Egypt. Note how his views might be impacted by the religious persecutions in Spain in his day. Contrast with the Netziv in his discussion of the Purpose of the Bondage, and how he, in turn, is influenced by the events of his era.
 
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<category>בָּרוּךְ שׁוֹמֵר הַבְטָחָתוֹ לְיִשְׂרָאֵל
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<p>Before the Exodus Hashem commands the nation to borrow/request golden vessels from their neighbors.&#160; Many have understood this as a fulfillment of Hashem's promise that they would leave Egypt with great wealth, but commentators disagree if the vessels taken out were borrowed or given as gifts.</p>
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Before the Exodus Hashem commands the nation to borrow/request golden vessels from their neighbors. Many have understood this as a fulfillment of Hashem's promise that they would leave Egypt with great wealth, but commentators disagree if the vessels taken out were borrowed or given as gifts.<br/>
 
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<li>If you were in Egypt and were told to take gold or silver from the Egyptians, knowing that you were not to return them, would you consider it stealing or fair payment for your labor?&#160; When can two wrongs make a right?</li>
 
<li>If you were in Egypt and were told to take gold or silver from the Egyptians, knowing that you were not to return them, would you consider it stealing or fair payment for your labor?&#160; When can two wrongs make a right?</li>
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<p>What do you think are the main causes of antisemitism?</p>
 
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<li>Explore examples of Jewish oppression throughout history and in each case, consider: Were the Jews singled out or part of a larger group being oppressed? What led to the oppression? Was it physical or spiritual in nature?</li>
 
<li>Explore examples of Jewish oppression throughout history and in each case, consider: Were the Jews singled out or part of a larger group being oppressed? What led to the oppression? Was it physical or spiritual in nature?</li>
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<li>Compare to the bondage in Egypt. What factors led Paroh to enslave the people? Was he motivated by religious, military, economic or social concerns? Did the Israelites do anything to encourage the negative attitude?&#160; See</li>
 
<li>Compare to the bondage in Egypt. What factors led Paroh to enslave the people? Was he motivated by religious, military, economic or social concerns? Did the Israelites do anything to encourage the negative attitude?&#160; See</li>
 
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Matzah has been explained as containing contradicting symbolism, representing both the oppression and the haste of the redemption.&#160;
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Matzah has been explained as containing contradicting symbolism, representing both the oppression and the haste of the redemption.
 
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<li>If you were creating a holiday to commemorate the events in Egypt, would you choose to focus on the oppression or the redemption?&#160; What rituals/ practices would you institute, and what would be the goal of each?</li>
 
<li>If you were creating a holiday to commemorate the events in Egypt, would you choose to focus on the oppression or the redemption?&#160; What rituals/ practices would you institute, and what would be the goal of each?</li>

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עֲבָדִים הָיִינוּ

How would you define "slavery"?  What about "freedom"?  What does the narrative of Sefer Shemot suggest?  Interestingly, though there is much talk about leaving Egypt, the word "freedom" never appears in the narrative.  Why do you think that is?

Bring a selection of artwork to the seder and see how the various artists depict the enslavement.  Do you think of it in the same manner?

מִתְּחִלָּה עוֹבְדֵי עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה הָיוּ אֲבוֹתֵינוּ Does assimilation cause persecution or does it prevent it? See how R. Chasdai Crescas answers this question in his analysis of the religious beliefs of the Children of Israel while in Egypt. Note how his views might be impacted by the religious persecutions in Spain in his day. Contrast with the Netziv in his discussion of the Purpose of the Bondage, and how he, in turn, is influenced by the events of his era.

בָּרוּךְ שׁוֹמֵר הַבְטָחָתוֹ לְיִשְׂרָאֵל

  • Already at the Covenant of the Pieces, Hashem ordained that the Israelites would be exiled and oppressed for 400 years. He never clarifies, however, what purpose this should serve. Why do you think that the exile and bondage were a necessary part of our historical narrative?  See Purposes of the Egyptian Bondage for elaboration.
  • Expand the discussion to other experiences of suffering. How do trials and tribulations help a person/ community grow? Think of a personal trial that you have undergone; how has it changed you?  In what ways would you be different if you never experienced it?

וְאַחֲרֵי כֵן יֵצְאוּ בִּרְכֻשׁ גָּדוֹל Before the Exodus Hashem commands the nation to borrow/request golden vessels from their neighbors. Many have understood this as a fulfillment of Hashem's promise that they would leave Egypt with great wealth, but commentators disagree if the vessels taken out were borrowed or given as gifts.


  • If you were in Egypt and were told to take gold or silver from the Egyptians, knowing that you were not to return them, would you consider it stealing or fair payment for your labor?  When can two wrongs make a right?
  • If the vessels were gifts, given as reparation for the oppression, would you be willing to accept them?  Compare with the debates which raged in Israel in the early 1950s over the propriety of requesting and accepting West German reparations. See R. Zalman Sorotzkin in Reparations and Despoiling Egypt for more.

שֶׁבְּכָל דּוֹר וָדוֹר עוֹמְדִים עָלֵינוּ לְכַלּוֹתֵנוּ

What do you think are the main causes of antisemitism?

  • Explore examples of Jewish oppression throughout history and in each case, consider: Were the Jews singled out or part of a larger group being oppressed? What led to the oppression? Was it physical or spiritual in nature?
  • Compare to the bondage in Egypt. What factors led Paroh to enslave the people? Was he motivated by religious, military, economic or social concerns? Did the Israelites do anything to encourage the negative attitude?  See

אֵלּוּ עֶשֶׂר מַכּוֹת Challenge your family's assumptions about the plagues with the following questions:


  • Who was hit by the Plagues – Although it is natural to assume that only the Egyptians were affected by the Plagues, some commentators suggest that in the plagues which make no explicit mention of distinction between the nations, the Israelites suffered as well. What might motivate this stance?  How does the approach affect your understanding of the purpose of the Plagues or of the relative roles of the natural and supernatural in the story?  See Whom and Where Did the Plagues Strike?
  •  How many plagues were there? Most would answer that there were ten plagues ("עֶשֶׂר מַכּוֹת"), but neither the number ten ("עֶשֶׂר") nor the word ("מַכּוֹת") are ever found in the story of Sefer Shemot, and a case can be made for a series of anywhere from 9 to 12 wonders. How do the different possibilities affect your thinking about the Plagues as a whole?  What difference might it make if we refer to the series as "plagues", "wonders", "signs", or "judgments"?  See How Many Plagues Were There? and Patterns in the Plagues.

רַבָּן גַּמְלִיאֵל הָיָה אוֹמֵר Matzah has been explained as containing contradicting symbolism, representing both the oppression and the haste of the redemption.

  • If you were creating a holiday to commemorate the events in Egypt, would you choose to focus on the oppression or the redemption?  What rituals/ practices would you institute, and what would be the goal of each?
  • According to Sefer Shemot, what is the Holiday of Chag HaMatzot supposed to commemorate?  Was it celebrated by the Israelites in Egypt?  If so, what did it mean to them? See Chametz and Matzah in Pesach Mitzrayim.