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<opinion>Motzi–Matzah | <opinion>Motzi–Matzah | ||
<p>Since Motzi-Matzah requires a broken piece of matzah in addition to a whole matzah, we prepare for this by breaking a matzah at Yachatz.</p> | <p>Since Motzi-Matzah requires a broken piece of matzah in addition to a whole matzah, we prepare for this by breaking a matzah at Yachatz.</p> | ||
| − | <mekorot><multilink><a href="מהרםחלאוהפסחיםקטו-" data-aht="source">Ramban</a><a href="מהרםחלאוהפסחיםקטו-" data-aht="source">Cited in Maharam Chalawa Pesachim 115b</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RitvaHaggadahShelPesach" data-aht="source">Ritva</a><a href="RitvaHaggadahShelPesach" data-aht="source">Haggadah Shel Pesach</a><a href="R. Yom Tov b. Ashbel (Ritva)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yom Tov b. Ashbel</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RanPesachim25b" data-aht="source">Ran</a><a href="RanPesachim25b" data-aht="source">Commentary on Rif Pesachim 25b</a></multilink></mekorot> | + | <mekorot><multilink><a href="מהרםחלאוהפסחיםקטו-" data-aht="source">Ramban</a><a href="מהרםחלאוהפסחיםקטו-" data-aht="source">Cited in Maharam Chalawa Pesachim 115b</a><a href="RitvaHaggadahShelPesach" data-aht="source">cited by Ritva Haggadah Shel Pesach</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RitvaHaggadahShelPesach" data-aht="source">Ritva</a><a href="RitvaHaggadahShelPesach" data-aht="source">Haggadah Shel Pesach</a><a href="R. Yom Tov b. Ashbel (Ritva)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yom Tov b. Ashbel</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RanPesachim25b" data-aht="source">Ran</a><a href="RanPesachim25b" data-aht="source">Commentary on Rif Pesachim 25b</a></multilink><a href="RanPesachim23b" data-aht="source">Commentary on Rif Pesachim 23b</a></multilink></mekorot> |
<point><b>Motzi-Matza: whole vs. broken loaves</b> – On Shabbat or Yom Tov one normally makes the blessing of HaMotzi only on whole loaves. However, since "it is the way of the poor" (<a href="BavliPesachim115b-116a" data-aht="source">Bavli Pesachim 115b-116a</a>) to eat only part of a loaf, an exception is made at the Seder where it is customary to use a broken piece of matzah alongside the whole one/s.<fn>There is a debate regarding the number of whole matzot needed.  This is related both to whether or not Yom Tov, like Shabbat, requires לחם משנה, and, if so, whether the broken piece suffices as the second loaf. For a full discussion of the issue and the various customs, see Y. Tabory, "פסח דורות," (Tel Aviv, 1996): 269-306.</fn></point> | <point><b>Motzi-Matza: whole vs. broken loaves</b> – On Shabbat or Yom Tov one normally makes the blessing of HaMotzi only on whole loaves. However, since "it is the way of the poor" (<a href="BavliPesachim115b-116a" data-aht="source">Bavli Pesachim 115b-116a</a>) to eat only part of a loaf, an exception is made at the Seder where it is customary to use a broken piece of matzah alongside the whole one/s.<fn>There is a debate regarding the number of whole matzot needed.  This is related both to whether or not Yom Tov, like Shabbat, requires לחם משנה, and, if so, whether the broken piece suffices as the second loaf. For a full discussion of the issue and the various customs, see Y. Tabory, "פסח דורות," (Tel Aviv, 1996): 269-306.</fn></point> | ||
<point><b>Why not break the matzah immediately prior to Motzi-Matzah?</b> According to the above reasoning, one might have expected that Yachatz should take place right before Motzi-Matzah, as this is the best way to demonstrate that the broken piece is symbolic of poverty.<fn>This is, in fact, the practice followed by the <multilink><a href="RambamHilchotChametzUMatzah8-6" data-aht="source">Rambam</a><a href="RambamHilkhotChametzuMatzah7-3" data-aht="source">Hilkhot Chametz uMatzah 7:3</a><a href="RambamHilchotChametzUMatzah8-6" data-aht="source">Hilkhot Chametz UMatzah 8:6</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Maimon (Rambam, Maimonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe b. Maimon</a></multilink> (and Yemenites today).</fn> The Ritva and Ran, however, point to R. Hai Gaon who maintains that the ruling which permits making a blessing over broken pieces applies only if the matzah is already broken.  Since it would be a sign of disrespect to take a whole loaf and break it in two right before blessing,<fn>According to R. Hai Gaon, R. Papa's statement in <multilink><a href="BavliBerakhot39b" data-aht="source">Bavli Berakhot 39b</a><a href="BavliBerakhot39b" data-aht="source">Berakhot 39b</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink> regarding blessing over a a broken piece of matzah does not mandate such a custom, but only permits it. As such, it is still preferable to use two while loaves, and the allowance to use a broken piece is conditional.</fn> the matzah is broken at an earlier stage, at Yachatz.</point> | <point><b>Why not break the matzah immediately prior to Motzi-Matzah?</b> According to the above reasoning, one might have expected that Yachatz should take place right before Motzi-Matzah, as this is the best way to demonstrate that the broken piece is symbolic of poverty.<fn>This is, in fact, the practice followed by the <multilink><a href="RambamHilchotChametzUMatzah8-6" data-aht="source">Rambam</a><a href="RambamHilkhotChametzuMatzah7-3" data-aht="source">Hilkhot Chametz uMatzah 7:3</a><a href="RambamHilchotChametzUMatzah8-6" data-aht="source">Hilkhot Chametz UMatzah 8:6</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Maimon (Rambam, Maimonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe b. Maimon</a></multilink> (and Yemenites today).</fn> The Ritva and Ran, however, point to R. Hai Gaon who maintains that the ruling which permits making a blessing over broken pieces applies only if the matzah is already broken.  Since it would be a sign of disrespect to take a whole loaf and break it in two right before blessing,<fn>According to R. Hai Gaon, R. Papa's statement in <multilink><a href="BavliBerakhot39b" data-aht="source">Bavli Berakhot 39b</a><a href="BavliBerakhot39b" data-aht="source">Berakhot 39b</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink> regarding blessing over a a broken piece of matzah does not mandate such a custom, but only permits it. As such, it is still preferable to use two while loaves, and the allowance to use a broken piece is conditional.</fn> the matzah is broken at an earlier stage, at Yachatz.</point> | ||
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