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<point><b>Comparison to Kayin</b> – This approach holds that Lemekh is learning from Kayin who killed and Hashem extended for him seven generations, that Lemekh who didn't kill there is no reason Hashem wouldn't extend for him for longer.  Radak explains for this approach slightly differently, that Lemekh is talking about even if he would have killed like Kayin did.  Since Lemekh's good deeds outnumber this killing, Hashem will extend for him for longer than he extended for Kayin who killed besides doing other bad deeds.</point> | <point><b>Comparison to Kayin</b> – This approach holds that Lemekh is learning from Kayin who killed and Hashem extended for him seven generations, that Lemekh who didn't kill there is no reason Hashem wouldn't extend for him for longer.  Radak explains for this approach slightly differently, that Lemekh is talking about even if he would have killed like Kayin did.  Since Lemekh's good deeds outnumber this killing, Hashem will extend for him for longer than he extended for Kayin who killed besides doing other bad deeds.</point> | ||
<point><b>"לָכֵן כָּל הֹרֵג קַיִן שִׁבְעָתַיִם יֻקָּם"</b></point> | <point><b>"לָכֵן כָּל הֹרֵג קַיִן שִׁבְעָתַיִם יֻקָּם"</b></point> | ||
− | <point><b>Purpose of the story</b></point> | + | <point><b>Purpose of the story</b> – These commentators do not explain the purpose of the story.</point> |
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<opinion name="">Punishment of Lemekh for Inventing Weapons | <opinion name="">Punishment of Lemekh for Inventing Weapons | ||
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<point><b>Comparison to Kayin</b> – Kayin killed via wounding Hevel, and was promised that anyone who kills him will be punished seven times.  So Lemekh who invented swords, will also pray to Hashem and he will promise him that anyone who kills him will be punished seventy-seven times.</point> | <point><b>Comparison to Kayin</b> – Kayin killed via wounding Hevel, and was promised that anyone who kills him will be punished seven times.  So Lemekh who invented swords, will also pray to Hashem and he will promise him that anyone who kills him will be punished seventy-seven times.</point> | ||
<point><b>"לָכֵן כָּל הֹרֵג קַיִן שִׁבְעָתַיִם יֻקָּם"</b></point> | <point><b>"לָכֵן כָּל הֹרֵג קַיִן שִׁבְעָתַיִם יֻקָּם"</b></point> | ||
− | <point><b>Purpose of the story</b></point> | + | <point><b>Purpose of the story</b> – Ramban does not comment on the purpose of the story but he could explain like R. D"Z Hoffmann above, that the story shows the corruption of Lemekh that he did not understand what he did wrong by inventing swords.</point> |
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+ | <p>Lemekh is trying to quiet down his wives.</p> | ||
<mekorot><multilink><a href="RYosefKara" data-aht="source">R. Yosef Kara</a><a href="RYosefKara" data-aht="source">Bereshit 4:23</a><a href="R. Yosef Kara" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yosef Kara</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RadakBereshit4-24" data-aht="source">Radak</a><a href="RadakBereshit4-15" data-aht="source">Bereshit 4:15</a><a href="RadakBereshit4-24" data-aht="source">Bereshit 4:19,23-24</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Kimchi</a></multilink>,<fn>Radak brings multiple explanations, including those of Bereshit Rabbah and Tanchuma above.</fn> <multilink><a href="MaaseiHashemMaaseiBereshit21" data-aht="source">Ma'asei Hashem</a><a href="MaaseiHashemMaaseiBereshit21" data-aht="source">Ma'asei Bereshit 21</a><a href="R. Eliezer Ashkenazi (Maasei Hashem)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Eliezer Ashkenazi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="ShadalBereshit4-23-24" data-aht="source">Shadal</a><a href="ShadalBereshit4-15" data-aht="source">Bereshit 4:15</a><a href="ShadalBereshit4-23-24" data-aht="source">Bereshit 4:23-24</a><a href="R. Shemuel David Luzzatto (Shadal)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shemuel David Luzzatto</a></multilink></mekorot> | <mekorot><multilink><a href="RYosefKara" data-aht="source">R. Yosef Kara</a><a href="RYosefKara" data-aht="source">Bereshit 4:23</a><a href="R. Yosef Kara" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yosef Kara</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RadakBereshit4-24" data-aht="source">Radak</a><a href="RadakBereshit4-15" data-aht="source">Bereshit 4:15</a><a href="RadakBereshit4-24" data-aht="source">Bereshit 4:19,23-24</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Kimchi</a></multilink>,<fn>Radak brings multiple explanations, including those of Bereshit Rabbah and Tanchuma above.</fn> <multilink><a href="MaaseiHashemMaaseiBereshit21" data-aht="source">Ma'asei Hashem</a><a href="MaaseiHashemMaaseiBereshit21" data-aht="source">Ma'asei Bereshit 21</a><a href="R. Eliezer Ashkenazi (Maasei Hashem)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Eliezer Ashkenazi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="ShadalBereshit4-23-24" data-aht="source">Shadal</a><a href="ShadalBereshit4-15" data-aht="source">Bereshit 4:15</a><a href="ShadalBereshit4-23-24" data-aht="source">Bereshit 4:23-24</a><a href="R. Shemuel David Luzzatto (Shadal)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shemuel David Luzzatto</a></multilink></mekorot> | ||
<point><b>Why is Lemekh telling his wives?</b> Lemekh's wives were always squabbling and fighting with each other, and Lemekh is asking them to be quiet.</point> | <point><b>Why is Lemekh telling his wives?</b> Lemekh's wives were always squabbling and fighting with each other, and Lemekh is asking them to be quiet.</point> | ||
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<point><b>Who did Lemekh kill ("אִישׁ" and "יֶלֶד")?</b> R"Y Kara and Shadal say Lemekh didn't kill anybody and he is asking if he deserves this for he didn't do like Kayin, and Radak understands Lemekh is ready to kill his wives if they don't keep quiet.  On the other hand, Ma'asei Hashem reads the verse that Lemekh killed in past tense or at least he is saying so to frighten his wives that he is so strong and can kill a person without a sword but just by hurting them.</point> | <point><b>Who did Lemekh kill ("אִישׁ" and "יֶלֶד")?</b> R"Y Kara and Shadal say Lemekh didn't kill anybody and he is asking if he deserves this for he didn't do like Kayin, and Radak understands Lemekh is ready to kill his wives if they don't keep quiet.  On the other hand, Ma'asei Hashem reads the verse that Lemekh killed in past tense or at least he is saying so to frighten his wives that he is so strong and can kill a person without a sword but just by hurting them.</point> | ||
− | <point><b>What is "לְפִצְעִי" and "לְחַבֻּרָתִי"?</b> Ma'asei Hashem interprets these words as the way Lemekh is claiming he killed someone</point> | + | <point><b>What is "לְפִצְעִי" and "לְחַבֻּרָתִי"?</b> Ma'asei Hashem interprets these words as the way Lemekh is claiming he killed someone, without using a sword rather just by wounding him, so he can do the same for his wives.  The rest of the commentators don't explain these words.</point> |
− | <point><b>Comparison to Kayin</b></point> | + | <point><b>Comparison to Kayin</b> – R. Yosef Kara and Shadal understand this verse as a threat, that they will be punished many times more than what Hashem promised the killer of Kayin will be punished.  Radak and Ma'asei Hashem on the other hand interpret the verse that Lemekh is assuring his wives that he can kill them, and won't be afraid of a punishment.  Ma'asei Hashem clarifies that Kayin killed Hevel illegally, but Lemekh if he kills his wives he is killing them legally since they are not listening to what Hashem commanded "וְהוּא יִמְשָׁל בָּךְ".</point> |
<point><b>"לָכֵן כָּל הֹרֵג קַיִן שִׁבְעָתַיִם יֻקָּם"</b></point> | <point><b>"לָכֵן כָּל הֹרֵג קַיִן שִׁבְעָתַיִם יֻקָּם"</b></point> | ||
− | <point><b>Purpose of the story</b> – R. Yosef Kara says the story is coming to teach us to avoid having many wives, because it just causes fights and quarrels.  Though Radak explains the purpose is to counter people's beliefs that Hashem plainly rewards the righteous and punishes the wicked.  The story shows that it is more complicated and Hashem sometimes gives extensions. | + | <point><b>Purpose of the story</b> – R. Yosef Kara<fn>It is likely Ma'asei Hashem agrees with R. Yosef Kara on this.</fn> says the story is coming to teach us to avoid having many wives, because it just causes fights and quarrels.  Though Radak<fn>Radak might be saying this for one of the other opinions he brings.</fn> explains the purpose is to counter people's beliefs that Hashem plainly rewards the righteous and punishes the wicked.  The story shows that it is more complicated and Hashem sometimes gives extensions.</point> |
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Version as of 02:14, 15 December 2014
Lemekh's Oration
Exegetical Approaches
Response to Killing
Lemekh shares with his wives his feeling about killing others. Commentators disagree whether he is expressing regret or boasting.
Regret
Lemekh either shares with his wives his regret over having killed, or defends himself by pointing out that it was an accident.
Sources:Tanchuma, R. Saadia Gaon, Rashi #1, Abarbanel, Seforno, HaKetav VeHaKabbalah, Netziv, R. D"Z Hoffmann
Why is Lemekh telling his wives?
- Lemekh is expressing his sadness to his wives that he killed two people – R. Saadia Gaon, Seforno, HaKetav VeHaKabbalah.
- Lemekh is defending his action to his wives, claiming it was an accident or that only he will suffer not them – Tanchuma, Rashi, Abarbanel, R. D"Z Hoffmann.
- Lemekh is asking his wives to calm him down, because he didn't intend to kill a man and child – Netziv.
Lemekh's tone
- Lemekh said to his wives sadly but sincerely that he killed a man and a young boy, and he regrets these actions – R. Saadia Gaon,1 Abarbanel, Seforno, HaKetav VeHaKabbalah, Netziv, R. D"Z Hoffmann.2
- Lemekh is asking rhetorically, sure of himself that he did nothing wrong, "did I kill a man and a child that I deserve a punishment?", obviously not, these were killed accidentally – Tanchuma, Rashi.
Who did Lemekh kill ("אִישׁ" and "יֶלֶד")? According to R. Saadia Gaon, Netziv, and R. D"Z Hoffmann, Lemekh didn't kill any specific people,3 just mistakenly a man and a child.4 But according to the rest of these commentators following Tanchuma, Lemekh killed Kayin and his son, Tuval Kayin, thinking Kayin was an animal, and Tuval Kayin as he clapped his hand.5
What is "לְפִצְעִי" and "לְחַבֻּרָתִי"?
- The wound was the cause of death of the man and child – Tanchuma followed by a few commentators. Lemekh is defending himself that he just intended to wound the people not to kill them.
- The wound is Lemekh's wound – Abarbanel, Seforno. Abarbanel says Lemekh is telling his wives that he will suffer the punishment for killing the people not them, but Seforno says that by killing his ancestor and son he wounded himself.
- HaKetav VeHaKabbalah
Comparison to Kayin
- Rashi says Lemekh will get a smaller punishment than Kayin. Kayin, Hashem extended for him the wait for seven generation, all the more Lemekh who killed unintentionally Hashem will extend the wait many generations.
- On the other hand, some commentators interpret the verse that Lemekh will get a bigger punishment than Kayin, either because the amount of sorrow Lemekh had for killing Kayin and Tuval Kayin was more than what Kayin grieved for being "נָע וָנָד", like Seforno; or since when Hashem revenges from Lemekh the whole world will be punished in the Flood more than Kayin who was punished alone, like Abarbanel.
"לָכֵן כָּל הֹרֵג קַיִן שִׁבְעָתַיִם יֻקָּם"
Purpose of the story
- Rashi says simply the purpose is to teach that Hashem kept his word and made sure Kayin will be killed after the seventh generation,6 assuming the person killed was Kayin.
- Rasag and Abarbanel note the general story teaches us Lemekh invented weapons, but don't explain the specific song of Lemekh.7
- HaKetav VeHaKabbalah learns from the story the virtue of repenting on one's bad deeds, that Lemekh since he regretted what he did, earned to have sons "יושבי אהל ה'" and who created and invented tools for many purposes.
- R. D"Z Hoffmann says the story is showing the beginning of the process of moving away from Hashem. The people are not yet described as corrupted, but killing even by mistake already shows that they are not good people.8
Boasting
Lemekh is proud of his ability to kill.
Why is Lemekh telling his wives? Most of these commentators simply say Lemekh was boasting to his wives about his capabilities, but the opinion cited in Biur elaborates bringing the background to this statement. He says that during Lemekh's time there was a lot of violence going on, and people needed to build walls and make swords to protect them, their wives, and property from being stolen. Therefore Lemekh was proud that now he is not afraid of anybody because he could kill them easily using a sword.
Lemekh's tone – According to this approach Lemekh is not covering up the fact he killed a man and a child rather he is proud that he can kill a man and a child.
Who did Lemekh kill ("אִישׁ" and "יֶלֶד")? Ibn Kaspi and Cassuto say Lemekh had killed somebody in the past and that is what he is showing off about. Though the opinion cited in the Biur and Shadal and Immanueli say Lemekh is showing off that he can kill people using the swords he taught his son how to create, but not that Lemekh had yet killed someone. Immanueli explains Lemekh is ready to kill any person, and it makes not difference if he is a man or child.
What is "לְפִצְעִי" and "לְחַבֻּרָתִי"?
- Lemekh is boasting that he is ready to kill any person who hurts him even if the person just wounds him – Ibn Kaspi, opinion cited in Biur and Shadal, Immanueli.
- Lemekh is boasting that he can kill a person just from wounding him – Cassuto.
Comparison to Kayin – According to most of these commentators, Lemekh is boasting that Hashem will revenge from the killer of Kayin sevenfold, but Lemekh will revenge for himself seventy-seven times.9 Immanueli though explains that Hashem stated anyone who hurts Kayin who killed his brother, will be punished seven times, all the more Lemekh who will kill someone who attacks him, anyone who hurts him will be punished seventy-seven times.
"לָכֵן כָּל הֹרֵג קַיִן שִׁבְעָתַיִם יֻקָּם"
Purpose of the story – Cassuto, followed by Immanueli,10 explains that these verses serve as an introduction to the story of the Flood, to clarify why Hashem decided to flood the world. The Torah shows how Kayin's descendants even though they advanced in the material culture, there was a lot of cruelty going on that they were proud of. Therefore the Torah included Lemekh's song where he boasts over his ability to kill,11 to show until where those generations deteriorated.
Calming of Wives' Fear
Lemekh is calming down his wives who fear he will be killed for inventing weapons or being the seventh generation from Kayin.
Potential Death of their Children
Why is Lemekh telling his wives? Lemekh's wives did not want to have children, either because they were worried there will be a flood and their kids will die,13 or they feared their kids will be killed for being the seventh generation from Kayin. Therefore Lemekh is calming them down that he did not kill anybody that he should be wounded and his children killed.
Lemekh's tone – Lemekh is asking rhetorically, did he kill someone that he shall receive a punishment for doing so.
Who did Lemekh kill ("אִישׁ" and "יֶלֶד")? These commentators explain Lemekh did not kill anyone. Rashi and Ralbag say "אִישׁ" and "יֶלֶד" refers to Hevel, and Lemekh is asking whether he killed a young man like Kayin killed Hevel. R"Y Bekhor Shor says Lemekh is not referring specifically to what Kayin did rather he is just asking in general if he killed someone.
What is "לְפִצְעִי" and "לְחַבֻּרָתִי"? Most of the commentators understand Lemekh to be asking if he deserves wounds because he killed someone, though Ralbag says the wounds are part of the question, if he killed a person or wounded a person.
Comparison to Kayin – This approach holds that Lemekh is learning from Kayin who killed and Hashem extended for him seven generations, that Lemekh who didn't kill there is no reason Hashem wouldn't extend for him for longer. Radak explains for this approach slightly differently, that Lemekh is talking about even if he would have killed like Kayin did. Since Lemekh's good deeds outnumber this killing, Hashem will extend for him for longer than he extended for Kayin who killed besides doing other bad deeds.
"לָכֵן כָּל הֹרֵג קַיִן שִׁבְעָתַיִם יֻקָּם"
Purpose of the story – These commentators do not explain the purpose of the story.
Punishment of Lemekh for Inventing Weapons
Sources:Ramban
Why is Lemekh telling his wives? Ramban explains Lemekh taught everyone of his children a certain craft, and Tuval Kayin he taught how to make weapons. He interprets the verses to be a response to Lemekh's wives, who were afraid he will be punished because he invented weapons, so he is responding to them that killing with a weapon is better than killing by wounding.
Lemekh's tone – Ramban explains like many other commentators that Lemekh did not kill like Kayin did.
Who did Lemekh kill ("אִישׁ" and "יֶלֶד")? This approach holds that Lemekh didn't kill anybody at all, rather just invented weapons.
What is "לְפִצְעִי" and "לְחַבֻּרָתִי"? Ramban understands that killing by wounding a person is worse than killing with a sword. Lemekh is protecting himself that his invention is not bad.
Comparison to Kayin – Kayin killed via wounding Hevel, and was promised that anyone who kills him will be punished seven times. So Lemekh who invented swords, will also pray to Hashem and he will promise him that anyone who kills him will be punished seventy-seven times.
"לָכֵן כָּל הֹרֵג קַיִן שִׁבְעָתַיִם יֻקָּם"
Purpose of the story – Ramban does not comment on the purpose of the story but he could explain like R. D"Z Hoffmann above, that the story shows the corruption of Lemekh that he did not understand what he did wrong by inventing swords.
Reaction to Wive's Squabbles
Lemekh is trying to quiet down his wives.
Why is Lemekh telling his wives? Lemekh's wives were always squabbling and fighting with each other, and Lemekh is asking them to be quiet.
Lemekh's tone
- Questioning his fate – R"Y Kara, Shadal. Lemekh is asking if he killed someone that he deserves a punishment of never having quiet in his house.
- Threatening his wives – Radak, Ma'asei Hashem. Lemekh is threatening and scaring his wives that if they don't keep quiet he will kill them.
Who did Lemekh kill ("אִישׁ" and "יֶלֶד")? R"Y Kara and Shadal say Lemekh didn't kill anybody and he is asking if he deserves this for he didn't do like Kayin, and Radak understands Lemekh is ready to kill his wives if they don't keep quiet. On the other hand, Ma'asei Hashem reads the verse that Lemekh killed in past tense or at least he is saying so to frighten his wives that he is so strong and can kill a person without a sword but just by hurting them.
What is "לְפִצְעִי" and "לְחַבֻּרָתִי"? Ma'asei Hashem interprets these words as the way Lemekh is claiming he killed someone, without using a sword rather just by wounding him, so he can do the same for his wives. The rest of the commentators don't explain these words.
Comparison to Kayin – R. Yosef Kara and Shadal understand this verse as a threat, that they will be punished many times more than what Hashem promised the killer of Kayin will be punished. Radak and Ma'asei Hashem on the other hand interpret the verse that Lemekh is assuring his wives that he can kill them, and won't be afraid of a punishment. Ma'asei Hashem clarifies that Kayin killed Hevel illegally, but Lemekh if he kills his wives he is killing them legally since they are not listening to what Hashem commanded "וְהוּא יִמְשָׁל בָּךְ".
"לָכֵן כָּל הֹרֵג קַיִן שִׁבְעָתַיִם יֻקָּם"
Purpose of the story – R. Yosef Kara15 says the story is coming to teach us to avoid having many wives, because it just causes fights and quarrels. Though Radak16 explains the purpose is to counter people's beliefs that Hashem plainly rewards the righteous and punishes the wicked. The story shows that it is more complicated and Hashem sometimes gives extensions.