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<point><b>Philosophical motivations – Can Hashem change His mind?</b> Ralbag is bothered by the idea that Hashem's will might change.  He asserts that it is not possible that Hashem would originally prohibit meat from mankind and then change His mind to allow it after the Flood.<fn>Ralbag notes that one might argue that when Hashem later prohibits the Israelites from eating certain types of food, this is also an instance of His changing His mind.  Ralbag argues that this is not comparable since Hashem  simply wanted to distinguish the nation of Israel from others, and thus prevented them from eating some of the foods allowed to the descendants of Noach.  This, thus, is not an example of Hashem changing some fundamental principle, but rather adding obligations to a specific group of people so as to elevate them.</fn></point> | <point><b>Philosophical motivations – Can Hashem change His mind?</b> Ralbag is bothered by the idea that Hashem's will might change.  He asserts that it is not possible that Hashem would originally prohibit meat from mankind and then change His mind to allow it after the Flood.<fn>Ralbag notes that one might argue that when Hashem later prohibits the Israelites from eating certain types of food, this is also an instance of His changing His mind.  Ralbag argues that this is not comparable since Hashem  simply wanted to distinguish the nation of Israel from others, and thus prevented them from eating some of the foods allowed to the descendants of Noach.  This, thus, is not an example of Hashem changing some fundamental principle, but rather adding obligations to a specific group of people so as to elevate them.</fn></point> | ||
<point><b>Evaluation of eating meat</b> – This position does not view vegetarianism as an ideal and sees no problem with killing animals for food.</point> | <point><b>Evaluation of eating meat</b> – This position does not view vegetarianism as an ideal and sees no problem with killing animals for food.</point> | ||
− | <point><b>Sacrifices before the Flood</b> – This position might suggest that Hevel's role as shepherd and the sacrifice of sheep | + | <point><b>Sacrifices before the Flood</b> – This position might suggest that Hevel's role as shepherd and the sacrifice of sheep support the idea that meat was permitted also prior to the Flood.</point> |
− | <point><b>Were animals always carnivorous?</b> According to this position, animals, too, were always allowed to eat meat.<fn>R. Saadia is the only one to address the question explicitly, but Ralbag and Shadal's arguments all work for animals as well.</fn>  In fact, R, Saadia points to the fact that many animals are predators as evidence that meat was always allowed.  Had it not been, there should have been a verse | + | <point><b>Were animals always carnivorous?</b> According to this position, animals, too, were always allowed to eat meat.<fn>R. Saadia is the only one to address the question explicitly, but Ralbag and Shadal's arguments all work for animals as well.</fn>  In fact, R, Saadia points to the fact that many animals are predators as evidence that meat was always allowed.  Had it not been, there should have been a verse after the Deluge explicitly permitting meat to them as well.</point> |
− | <point><b>Messianic times – "וְאַרְיֵה כַּבָּקָר יֹאכַל תֶּבֶן"</b> – Shadal explains that the verse is not to be read literally but is rather an analogy teaching that in the future the strong will no longer oppress and take advantage of the weak.  It has nothing to do with | + | <point><b>Messianic times – "וְאַרְיֵה כַּבָּקָר יֹאכַל תֶּבֶן"</b> – Shadal explains that the verse is not meant to be read literally but is rather an analogy teaching that in the future the strong will no longer oppress and take advantage of the weak.  It has nothing to do with a change in eating habits or the ideal diet in the Messianic era.</point> |
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<category>Prohibited After Adam's Sin Until the Flood | <category>Prohibited After Adam's Sin Until the Flood | ||
− | <p>Adam was initially allowed to eat meat, but he lost this privilege after | + | <p>Adam was initially allowed to eat meat, but he lost this privilege after his sin in the Garden of Eden.  Permission was restored after the Flood atoned for all of mankind's sins.</p> |
<mekorot><multilink><a href="שותהרשבאהחדשותמכתבידשסז" data-aht="source">Rashba</a><a href="שותהרשבאהחדשותמכתבידשסז" data-aht="source">Responsa 367</a><a href="R. Shelomo b. Aderet (Rashba)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shelomo b. Aderet</a></multilink>, Akeidat YItzchak, <multilink><a href="TzerorHaMorBereshit9-1" data-aht="source">Tzeror Hamor #2</a><a href="TzerorHaMorBereshit9-1" data-aht="source">Tzeror HaMor Bereshit 9:1</a><a href="R. Avraham Saba (Tzeror HaMor)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Avraham Saba (Tzeror HaMor)</a></multilink></mekorot> | <mekorot><multilink><a href="שותהרשבאהחדשותמכתבידשסז" data-aht="source">Rashba</a><a href="שותהרשבאהחדשותמכתבידשסז" data-aht="source">Responsa 367</a><a href="R. Shelomo b. Aderet (Rashba)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shelomo b. Aderet</a></multilink>, Akeidat YItzchak, <multilink><a href="TzerorHaMorBereshit9-1" data-aht="source">Tzeror Hamor #2</a><a href="TzerorHaMorBereshit9-1" data-aht="source">Tzeror HaMor Bereshit 9:1</a><a href="R. Avraham Saba (Tzeror HaMor)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Avraham Saba (Tzeror HaMor)</a></multilink></mekorot> | ||
− | <point><b>"הִנֵּה נָתַתִּי לָכֶם אֶת כׇּל עֵשֶׂב זֹרֵעַ זֶרַע ... לְאׇכְלָה"</b> – According to this position, this | + | <point><b>"הִנֵּה נָתַתִּי לָכֶם אֶת כׇּל עֵשֶׂב זֹרֵעַ זֶרַע ... לְאׇכְלָה"</b> – According to this position, this command was first given to Adam only after he sinned by eating of the Tree of Knowledge in the Garden of Eden.<fn>Accordingly, the verse is placed out of chronological order.  Rashba might explain that the sin occurred so early in history that the Torah views the prohibition as existing almost from the beginning of time.</fn>  Originally Adam was permitted to eat meat, but after the sin Hashem limited his food to vegetation.<fn>Perhaps this verse is equivalent to Hashem's curse to Adam that "by the sweat of your brow will you eat bread" (Bereshit 3:19).  Now that meat was prohibited, man would have to toil extra in the fields.</fn></point> |
− | <point><b>Why the change?</b> Rashba explains that in sinning, man let his physical side overcome his intellectual side, lowering him to the level of animals.  Once he was no longer | + | <point><b>Why the change?</b> Rashba explains that in sinning, man let his physical side overcome his intellectual side, lowering him to the level of animals.  Once he was no longer distinguishable from beasts or superior to them, he lost the privilege of killing them for his own purposes.<fn>Just as a person is not allowed to kill a fellow human because the two are on equal footing, so too in this era when man proved himself to be similar to animals, he was not permitted to kill them.</fn>  Akeidat Yitzchak compares it to the punishment of the snake, whose food source is also demoted (to dirt) after the sin.<fn>Akeidat Yitzchak asserts that each species is meant to eat of the food source underneath them in the hierarchy of living beings.  Thus humans are meant to eat animals, animals to eat plants, and plants to take their sustenance from the ground etc.</fn></point> |
− | <point><b>After the Flood: "כׇּל רֶמֶשׂ אֲשֶׁר הוּא חַי לָכֶם יִהְיֶה לְאׇכְלָה"</b> – Since the Flood | + | <point><b>After the Flood: "כׇּל רֶמֶשׂ אֲשֶׁר הוּא חַי לָכֶם יִהְיֶה לְאׇכְלָה"</b> – Since the Flood atoned for Adam's sin and killed off all sinners, afterwards Hashem renewed the permission to eat meat.  However, He accompanied the statement with a reminder that spilling human blood is prohibited.</point> |
− | <point><b>Sacrifices before the Flood</b> – Rashba asserts that even when meat was forbidden as a food source, it was still permitted | + | <point><b>Sacrifices before the Flood</b> – Rashba asserts that even when meat was forbidden as a food source, it was still permitted for sacrifices.</point> |
<point><b>Parallel cases</b> – Rashba suggests that the stages here parallel the stages regarding the permission granted to eat meat for pleasure (בשר תאוה) in the desert.<fn>See <a href="Devarim12-20-28" data-aht="source">Devarim 12:20-28</a>. Cf. R. D"Z Hoffmann who also notes the parallel to the changing laws of eating meat for pleasure but does not associate these with sin and punishment.</fn>  He suggests that initially this was permitted, but with the sin of the Golden Calf, it was prohibited and only sacrificial meat was allowed.  With entry into Israel, the nation was forgiven and permission to eat meat was renewed.</point> | <point><b>Parallel cases</b> – Rashba suggests that the stages here parallel the stages regarding the permission granted to eat meat for pleasure (בשר תאוה) in the desert.<fn>See <a href="Devarim12-20-28" data-aht="source">Devarim 12:20-28</a>. Cf. R. D"Z Hoffmann who also notes the parallel to the changing laws of eating meat for pleasure but does not associate these with sin and punishment.</fn>  He suggests that initially this was permitted, but with the sin of the Golden Calf, it was prohibited and only sacrificial meat was allowed.  With entry into Israel, the nation was forgiven and permission to eat meat was renewed.</point> | ||
<point><b>Evaluation of eating meat</b> – This position views eating animals as the norm and a sign of man's superiority, while a diet lacking meat is considered a punishment.</point> | <point><b>Evaluation of eating meat</b> – This position views eating animals as the norm and a sign of man's superiority, while a diet lacking meat is considered a punishment.</point> | ||
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<point><b>Why was meat originally prohibited?</b><ul> | <point><b>Why was meat originally prohibited?</b><ul> | ||
<li><b>Scarcity of animals </b>–<b>  </b>R. Saadia posits that Hashem only prohibited man from eating meat at the beginning of creation due to the scarcity of animals.<fn>Cf. Radak above who posits that animals did not eat of each other both at the beginning of creation and during the Flood for this reason.</fn>  Had men been predators, there was a real possibility that many species might go extinct.<fn>Cf. <multilink><a href="RambanDevarim22-6" data-aht="source">Ramban</a><a href="RambanDevarim22-6" data-aht="source">Devarim 22:6</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Nachman (Ramban, Nachmanides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe b. Nachman</a></multilink>'s similar explanation to the prohibition of "וְשׁוֹר אוֹ שֶׂה אֹתוֹ וְאֶת בְּנוֹ לֹא תִשְׁחֲטוּ בְּיוֹם אֶחָד" in Vayikra 22:28.  See also the Karaite opinion brought by Mann in JQR 15:3, p. 372-373: "אבל הברואים אשר נבראו עם האדם היו אסורים לשחוט כי ברכם []נם [ככ]ת' ולרבות ולא לשחוט עד אשר יקימו בניהם תחתם ועד אשר יגדלו בניהם וישיגו גם הם לפריה ולרביה אז יכשר שיתיר להם שחיטתם ואכילתם ושחיטתם..."</fn></li> | <li><b>Scarcity of animals </b>–<b>  </b>R. Saadia posits that Hashem only prohibited man from eating meat at the beginning of creation due to the scarcity of animals.<fn>Cf. Radak above who posits that animals did not eat of each other both at the beginning of creation and during the Flood for this reason.</fn>  Had men been predators, there was a real possibility that many species might go extinct.<fn>Cf. <multilink><a href="RambanDevarim22-6" data-aht="source">Ramban</a><a href="RambanDevarim22-6" data-aht="source">Devarim 22:6</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Nachman (Ramban, Nachmanides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe b. Nachman</a></multilink>'s similar explanation to the prohibition of "וְשׁוֹר אוֹ שֶׂה אֹתוֹ וְאֶת בְּנוֹ לֹא תִשְׁחֲטוּ בְּיוֹם אֶחָד" in Vayikra 22:28.  See also the Karaite opinion brought by Mann in JQR 15:3, p. 372-373: "אבל הברואים אשר נבראו עם האדם היו אסורים לשחוט כי ברכם []נם [ככ]ת' ולרבות ולא לשחוט עד אשר יקימו בניהם תחתם ועד אשר יגדלו בניהם וישיגו גם הם לפריה ולרביה אז יכשר שיתיר להם שחיטתם ואכילתם ושחיטתם..."</fn></li> | ||
− | <li><b>Lack of technology</b> – Hoil Moshe asserts that though Hashem prefers that man's intake of meat be limited, He nonetheless allows it in moderation.  In the beginning of the world, though, man had not yet learned to cook or roast meat and raw meat did not appeal to his palate, so he naturally ate mainly vegetation.<fn>Cf. <a href="MidrashAggadahBuberBereshit10-8" data-aht="source">Midrash Aggadah</a> which suggests that until the time of Nimrod no one ate meat since he was the first to learn how to hunt.</fn></li> | + | <li><b>Lack of technology</b> – Hoil Moshe asserts that though Hashem prefers that man's intake of meat be limited, He nonetheless allows it in moderation.  In the beginning of the world, though, man had not yet learned to cook or roast meat, and raw meat did not appeal to his palate, so he naturally ate mainly vegetation.<fn>Cf. <a href="MidrashAggadahBuberBereshit10-8" data-aht="source">Midrash Aggadah</a> which suggests that until the time of Nimrod no one ate meat since he was the first to learn how to hunt.</fn></li> |
</ul></point> | </ul></point> | ||
<point><b>Why the change?</b><ul> | <point><b>Why the change?</b><ul> |
Version as of 02:29, 16 October 2015
Permission to Eat Meat
Exegetical Approaches
Never Prohibited
Eating meat was permitted from the beginning of time, and even Adam was always allowed to eat animals.
- Speaking of the norm – R. Saadia explains that Hashem mentioned only vegetation and fruits because these are mankind's major food source, while meat is a luxury eaten only much less often.
- Description rather than command – Ralbag1 asserts that these words are not a command to man at all but rather a further description of man's creation and a statement of natural law.2 Hashem is simply saying that He created humans with the capacity to eat vegetation, even though grasses and plants are far from man's nature and one might have not expected him to possess this capability.3
- Contrast to animals – Shadal asserts that the verse serves to contrast man, who is given seeds and fruit to eat, with animals who were given only grasses to consume. The difference highlights man's greater intellect (only he had knowledge to sow and plant) and flows from the prior blessing regarding man's dominion over the animal kingdom.
- Minority discounted – According to R. Saadia, this case is similar to many others in which people focus on the majority and make no mention of a minority, even though they do not intend to exclude it.
- Obvious – For Ralbag, the ability of man to eat meat was obvious and thus did not need to be stated. It was his capability of eating vegetation which was surprising and needed to be mentioned.
- Prevent unnecessary killing – Shadal asserts that Hashem only alluded to the permission to eat meat rather than making it more explicit so as not to encourage man to spill blood.
- Way of Torah – Yefet the Karaite suggests that sometimes the Torah mentions something only at a later point, even though it was applicable earlier. He compares the situation here to the lists of pure and impure animals which are provided only in Devarim 14 but not in Parashat Noach, even though already Noach in Bereshit 7:2 needed to differentiate between them.5
Prohibited After Adam's Sin Until the Flood
Adam was initially allowed to eat meat, but he lost this privilege after his sin in the Garden of Eden. Permission was restored after the Flood atoned for all of mankind's sins.
First Permitted Only After the Flood
Man was not given permission to eat meat until after the Flood. Commentators differ in their understanding of the reason for the change:
Permission as a Reward
As a reward for caring for the animals on the ark, Noach and future generations were given permission to eat meat.
- Saved for later – According to Radak, there was no fundamental reason for the original prohibition. Hashem simply wanted to save meat as a future reward for Noach.18
- Prevent suffering – Ran asserts that as animals can feel pain, man was not allowed to kill them. He says that this is the reason why even later, when eating is permitted, one is not allowed to cause animals undue suffering.
- Equal Status – Ramban assumes that man was prohibited from killing animals since the two were similar in stature (with both able to feel pain and desiring to escape death).19
- Radak views the permission to eat meat as simply compensation for Noach's labor and good deeds. Ran adds that Hashem might have also wanted to ease Noach's pain and loneliness in losing his world through the Flood.
- R"Y Bekhor Shor and Ramban suggest that there was a more fundamental change. R"Y Bekhor Shor says that in saving the animals, Noach gained certain rights over them and they became his to do with as he pleased. Ramban implies that Noach's actions revealed that man was in fact superior to the animals, thus removing the original reason for the prohibition.20
- According to Radak there is nothing wrong with eating meat, and the existence of predators is built into nature. In fact, it would seem that Hashem considers meat, rather than vegetables, the more lofty food, and thus saved it as a reward.
- R"Y Bekhor Shor and Ramban more simply suggest that there is a hierarchy to living beings, and thus, as long as man is superior to animals, he has the right to kill them.
Permission as a Concession
After the Flood, mankind was allowed to eat animals as a concession to human frailty.
- No death yet – Midrash Aggadah asserts that originally (before Adam's sin in the Garden) no one was supposed to die, so killing even for food was prohibited.23
- Sanctity of life – R. Kook and Cassuto explain more simply that the prohibition stems from the sanctity of all life. Though man might rule over animals, he cannot ignore their vitality. All life is sacred, even that of animals.
- Unethical to animals – R. Kook also maintains that this prohibition is similar to others which try to minimize the pain or suffering of animals.
- Killing leads to cruelty – Ibn Kaspi and R. Yosef Albo focus on what the action does to man, asserting that the act of killing leads man to become cruel.24 R. Albo adds that the consumption of animals dirties the soul while Tzeror HaMor speaks of its detrimental effect on the intellect.
- Practical necessity – Abarbanel maintains that permission was granted out of necessity. Since the Flood had destroyed all produce, Hashem had to allow Noach to eat of animals or they would have perished from famine. Abarbanel does not explain, why then, the prohibition was not renewed after vegetation grew again.
- Man weakened – Seforno and Tzeror HaMor assert that the people who lived after the Flood were weaker than Adam's generation. Seforno maintains that the quality of the world's atmosphere and vegetation had deteriorated during the Flood, while Tzeror HaMor points to the shortened lifespans of humans. To compensate for this frailty, Hashem allowed the human species to eat meat.
- Teach humans their proper status – R. Albo maintains that one of the problems of humankind had been that they did not realize that they were different from animals, leading to the principle that "might is right". To ensure that man recognized their higher stature, Hashem allowed man to eat of the animals.
- Degraded morals – R. Kook and U. Cassuto suggest that due to man's degraded morality, Hashem decided to hold him to a lower standard than the earlier ideal. If man was to have an inclination to kill and be violent better that he channel it into killing animals than fellow humans.
- Seforno, R. Kook, and Cassuto suggest that in the future the world will revert back to the ideal of creation. Cassuto points to Yeshayahu 11 as support that in Messianic times even animals will no longer eat one another, but only plants.26
- Abarbanel agrees but limits this to the Land of Israel.27 He posits that predatory animals were created as punitive tools of Hashem. In the era of the Mashiach this will not be necessary as evil will have disappeared and the Mashiach himself will mete out justice.
Original Prohibition was only a Practical Necessity
Adam was not prohibited from eating meat for any fundamental reason, but only due to the scarcity of animals at the time or because he simply lacked knowledge of how to cook them.
- Scarcity of animals – R. Saadia posits that Hashem only prohibited man from eating meat at the beginning of creation due to the scarcity of animals.28 Had men been predators, there was a real possibility that many species might go extinct.29
- Lack of technology – Hoil Moshe asserts that though Hashem prefers that man's intake of meat be limited, He nonetheless allows it in moderation. In the beginning of the world, though, man had not yet learned to cook or roast meat, and raw meat did not appeal to his palate, so he naturally ate mainly vegetation.30
- According to R. Saadia's approach it is surprising that permission would be granted right after the Flood, considering that at that point, too, there was a scarcity of animals.31
- Hoil Moshe maintains that by this point civilization had progressed enough that man had learned how to cook meat.
- No – According to R. Saadia animals, too, were originally prohibited from killing one another to ensure their survival.
- Yes – According to Hoil Moshe, from the beginning animals were able to eat one another since they had no problem eating meat raw.32 As proof he points to Noach's sending of the raven outside the ark, which he assumes had to be for the purpose of finding carcasses to eat.