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<category>Mistaken Status of Person | <category>Mistaken Status of Person | ||
<p>This approach understands that just because a man might seem to be righteous or wicked he might not always be so, and Hashem is paying him his true doe.</p> | <p>This approach understands that just because a man might seem to be righteous or wicked he might not always be so, and Hashem is paying him his true doe.</p> | ||
| − | <mekorot><multilink><a href="BavliTaanit11a" data-aht="source">Bavli Taanit</a><a href="BavliTaanit11a" data-aht="source">Taanit 11a</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>,<fn>It is unclear from the Bavli if they hold the person was not really righteous or wicked and rather had what to be rewarded or punished for, or that the real retribution would be in the world to come.</fn></mekorot> | + | <mekorot><multilink><a href="BavliTaanit11a" data-aht="source">Bavli Taanit</a><a href="BavliTaanit11a" data-aht="source">Taanit 11a</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>,<fn>It is unclear from the Bavli if they hold the person was not really righteous or wicked and rather had what to be rewarded or punished for, or that the real retribution would be in the world to come.</fn> opinion in <multilink><a href="RSaadiaGaonHaEmunotVeHaDeiot5-3" data-aht="source">R. Saadia Gaon</a><a href="RSaadiaGaonHaEmunotVeHaDeiot5-3" data-aht="source">HaEmunot VeHaDeiot 5:3</a><a href="R. Saadia Gaon" data-aht="parshan">About R. Saadia Gaon</a></multilink>,</mekorot> |
| + | <point><b>Afflictions of love</b></point> | ||
| + | <point><b>Iyyov</b></point> | ||
| + | <point><b>"פֹּקֵד עֲוֺן אָבוֹת עַל בָּנִים"</b></point> | ||
</category> | </category> | ||
<category>Misperception of Retribution | <category>Misperception of Retribution | ||
| − | <mekorot><multilink><a href="SifreDevarim11-26" data-aht="source">Sifre Devarim</a><a href="SifreDevarim11-26" data-aht="source">11:26</a><a href="Sifre Devarim" data-aht="parshan">About Sifre Devarim</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="YerushalmiChagigah2-1" data-aht="source">Yerushalmi</a><a href="YerushalmiChagigah2-1" data-aht="source">Chagigah 2:1</a><a href="Talmud Yerushalmi" data-aht="parshan">About the Yerushalmi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="BavliShabbat30b" data-aht="source">Bavli Shabbat</a><a href="BavliShabbat30b" data-aht="source">Shabbat 30b</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="BavliChulin142a" data-aht="source">Bavli Chulin</a><a href="BavliChulin142a" data-aht="source">Chulin 142a</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>,</mekorot> | + | <mekorot><multilink><a href="SifreDevarim11-26" data-aht="source">Sifre Devarim</a><a href="SifreDevarim11-26" data-aht="source">11:26</a><a href="Sifre Devarim" data-aht="parshan">About Sifre Devarim</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="YerushalmiChagigah2-1" data-aht="source">Yerushalmi</a><a href="YerushalmiChagigah2-1" data-aht="source">Chagigah 2:1</a><a href="Talmud Yerushalmi" data-aht="parshan">About the Yerushalmi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="BavliShabbat30b" data-aht="source">Bavli Shabbat</a><a href="BavliShabbat30b" data-aht="source">Shabbat 30b</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="BavliChulin142a" data-aht="source">Bavli Chulin</a><a href="BavliChulin142a" data-aht="source">Chulin 142a</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>, opinion in <multilink><a href="RSaadiaGaonHaEmunotVeHaDeiot5-3" data-aht="source">R. Saadia Gaon</a><a href="RSaadiaGaonHaEmunotVeHaDeiot5-3" data-aht="source">HaEmunot VeHaDeiot 5:3</a><a href="R. Saadia Gaon" data-aht="parshan">About R. Saadia Gaon</a></multilink>,</mekorot> |
</category> | </category> | ||
<category>Not Aimed at the Doer | <category>Not Aimed at the Doer | ||
Version as of 11:03, 16 May 2017
Theodicy – צדיק ורע לו
Exegetical Approaches
Mistaken Status of Person
This approach understands that just because a man might seem to be righteous or wicked he might not always be so, and Hashem is paying him his true doe.
Afflictions of love
Iyyov
"פֹּקֵד עֲוֺן אָבוֹת עַל בָּנִים"
Misperception of Retribution
Not Aimed at the Doer
The righteous or wicked man is really not worthy of the retribution they received.
Sources:Bavli Berakhot,
Hashem's providence
