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<point><b>Iyyov</b></point> | <point><b>Iyyov</b></point> | ||
<point><b>"פֹּקֵד עֲוֺן אָבוֹת עַל בָּנִים"</b></point> | <point><b>"פֹּקֵד עֲוֺן אָבוֹת עַל בָּנִים"</b></point> | ||
| + | <point><b>צדיק ורע לו</b> – Hashem is punishing the person for the little sins that he committed.</point> | ||
| + | <point><b>רשע וטוב לו</b><ul> | ||
| + | <li>Hashem is rewarding the wicked man because he might do teshuvah</li> | ||
| + | <li>Hashem is giving a reward for his few good deeds</li> | ||
| + | </ul></point> | ||
</category> | </category> | ||
<category>Misperception of Retribution | <category>Misperception of Retribution | ||
<mekorot><multilink><a href="SifreDevarim11-26" data-aht="source">Sifre Devarim</a><a href="SifreDevarim11-26" data-aht="source">11:26</a><a href="Sifre Devarim" data-aht="parshan">About Sifre Devarim</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="YerushalmiChagigah2-1" data-aht="source">Yerushalmi</a><a href="YerushalmiChagigah2-1" data-aht="source">Chagigah 2:1</a><a href="Talmud Yerushalmi" data-aht="parshan">About the Yerushalmi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="BavliShabbat30b" data-aht="source">Bavli Shabbat</a><a href="BavliShabbat30b" data-aht="source">Shabbat 30b</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="BavliChulin142a" data-aht="source">Bavli Chulin</a><a href="BavliChulin142a" data-aht="source">Chulin 142a</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>, opinion in <multilink><a href="RSaadiaGaonHaEmunotVeHaDeiot5-3" data-aht="source">R. Saadia Gaon</a><a href="RSaadiaGaonHaEmunotVeHaDeiot5-3" data-aht="source">HaEmunot VeHaDeiot 5:3</a><a href="R. Saadia Gaon" data-aht="parshan">About R. Saadia Gaon</a></multilink>,</mekorot> | <mekorot><multilink><a href="SifreDevarim11-26" data-aht="source">Sifre Devarim</a><a href="SifreDevarim11-26" data-aht="source">11:26</a><a href="Sifre Devarim" data-aht="parshan">About Sifre Devarim</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="YerushalmiChagigah2-1" data-aht="source">Yerushalmi</a><a href="YerushalmiChagigah2-1" data-aht="source">Chagigah 2:1</a><a href="Talmud Yerushalmi" data-aht="parshan">About the Yerushalmi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="BavliShabbat30b" data-aht="source">Bavli Shabbat</a><a href="BavliShabbat30b" data-aht="source">Shabbat 30b</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="BavliChulin142a" data-aht="source">Bavli Chulin</a><a href="BavliChulin142a" data-aht="source">Chulin 142a</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>, opinion in <multilink><a href="RSaadiaGaonHaEmunotVeHaDeiot5-3" data-aht="source">R. Saadia Gaon</a><a href="RSaadiaGaonHaEmunotVeHaDeiot5-3" data-aht="source">HaEmunot VeHaDeiot 5:3</a><a href="R. Saadia Gaon" data-aht="parshan">About R. Saadia Gaon</a></multilink>,</mekorot> | ||
| + | <point><b>צדיק ורע לו</b> – Hashem is not punishing the innocent people rather He is testing them so in the future or in the world to come He will give them an abundance of good.</point> | ||
| + | <point><b>רשע וטוב לו</b> – Giving the wicked man a reward he does not deserve, strengthens the power of the punishment he is punished later.</point> | ||
</category> | </category> | ||
<category>Not Aimed at the Doer | <category>Not Aimed at the Doer | ||
<p>The righteous or wicked man is really not worthy of the retribution they received.</p> | <p>The righteous or wicked man is really not worthy of the retribution they received.</p> | ||
<mekorot><multilink><a href="BavliBerakhot7a" data-aht="source">Bavli Berakhot</a><a href="BavliBerakhot7a" data-aht="source">Berakhot 7a</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>,</mekorot> | <mekorot><multilink><a href="BavliBerakhot7a" data-aht="source">Bavli Berakhot</a><a href="BavliBerakhot7a" data-aht="source">Berakhot 7a</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>,</mekorot> | ||
| + | <point><b>צדיק ורע לו</b> – The righteous man is being punished over the sins of his generation, or of his ancestors.</point> | ||
| + | <point><b>רשע וטוב לו</b> – The wicked man being part of a nation who is worthy of good, received good as well, even though he did not deserve it.</point> | ||
<point><b>Hashem's providence</b></point> | <point><b>Hashem's providence</b></point> | ||
</category> | </category> | ||
Version as of 01:18, 17 May 2017
Theodicy – צדיק ורע לו
Exegetical Approaches
Mistaken Status of Person
This approach understands that just because a man might seem to be righteous or wicked he might not always be so, and Hashem is paying him his true doe.
Afflictions of love
Iyyov
"פֹּקֵד עֲוֺן אָבוֹת עַל בָּנִים"
צדיק ורע לו – Hashem is punishing the person for the little sins that he committed.
רשע וטוב לו
- Hashem is rewarding the wicked man because he might do teshuvah
- Hashem is giving a reward for his few good deeds
Misperception of Retribution
צדיק ורע לו – Hashem is not punishing the innocent people rather He is testing them so in the future or in the world to come He will give them an abundance of good.
רשע וטוב לו – Giving the wicked man a reward he does not deserve, strengthens the power of the punishment he is punished later.
Not Aimed at the Doer
The righteous or wicked man is really not worthy of the retribution they received.
Sources:Bavli Berakhot,
צדיק ורע לו – The righteous man is being punished over the sins of his generation, or of his ancestors.
רשע וטוב לו – The wicked man being part of a nation who is worthy of good, received good as well, even though he did not deserve it.
Hashem's providence
