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<p>A so-called wicked or righteous person might not always be what they seem.  Thus, wrong-doers might have merits that justify their rewards, while the righteous might have committed sins which justify their punishment.</p> | <p>A so-called wicked or righteous person might not always be what they seem.  Thus, wrong-doers might have merits that justify their rewards, while the righteous might have committed sins which justify their punishment.</p> | ||
<mekorot><multilink><a href="BavliBerakhot7a" data-aht="source">Bavli Berakhot</a><a href="BavliBerakhot7a" data-aht="source">Berakhot 7a</a><a href="BavliBerakhot7b" data-aht="source">Berakhot 7b</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>, first opinion in <multilink><a href="RSaadiaGaonHaEmunotVeHaDeiot5-2-3" data-aht="source">R. Saadia Gaon</a><a href="RSaadiaGaonHaEmunotVeHaDeiot5-2-3" data-aht="source">HaEmunot VeHaDeiot 5:2-3</a><a href="R. Saadia Gaon" data-aht="parshan">About R. Saadia Gaon</a></multilink>, first opinion in <multilink><a href="ChovotHaLevavot4-3" data-aht="source">Chovot HaLevavot</a><a href="ChovotHaLevavot4-3" data-aht="source">4:3</a><a href="Chovot HaLevavot" data-aht="parshan">About R. Bachya ibn Pakuda</a></multilink>,<fn>R. Bachya brings the same options brought by R. Saadia Gaon and was influenced by him.  Though R. Bachya develops the third approach further.</fn> <multilink><a href="RambanToratHaAdamShaarHaGemul" data-aht="source">Ramban</a><a href="RambanToratHaAdamShaarHaGemul" data-aht="source">Torat HaAdam Shaar HaGemul</a><a href="RambanDevarim11-13" data-aht="source">Devarim 11:13</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Nachman (Ramban, Nachmanides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe b. Nachman</a></multilink>,</mekorot> | <mekorot><multilink><a href="BavliBerakhot7a" data-aht="source">Bavli Berakhot</a><a href="BavliBerakhot7a" data-aht="source">Berakhot 7a</a><a href="BavliBerakhot7b" data-aht="source">Berakhot 7b</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>, first opinion in <multilink><a href="RSaadiaGaonHaEmunotVeHaDeiot5-2-3" data-aht="source">R. Saadia Gaon</a><a href="RSaadiaGaonHaEmunotVeHaDeiot5-2-3" data-aht="source">HaEmunot VeHaDeiot 5:2-3</a><a href="R. Saadia Gaon" data-aht="parshan">About R. Saadia Gaon</a></multilink>, first opinion in <multilink><a href="ChovotHaLevavot4-3" data-aht="source">Chovot HaLevavot</a><a href="ChovotHaLevavot4-3" data-aht="source">4:3</a><a href="Chovot HaLevavot" data-aht="parshan">About R. Bachya ibn Pakuda</a></multilink>,<fn>R. Bachya brings the same options brought by R. Saadia Gaon and was influenced by him.  Though R. Bachya develops the third approach further.</fn> <multilink><a href="RambanToratHaAdamShaarHaGemul" data-aht="source">Ramban</a><a href="RambanToratHaAdamShaarHaGemul" data-aht="source">Torat HaAdam Shaar HaGemul</a><a href="RambanDevarim11-13" data-aht="source">Devarim 11:13</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Nachman (Ramban, Nachmanides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe b. Nachman</a></multilink>,</mekorot> | ||
− | <point><b>צדיק | + | <point><b>The terms צדיק  and רשע</b> – R. Saadya points out that people are viewed as good or evil based on the majority of their actions.  Thus a "good person" might still have sinned, and a "bad person" might have done some good.</point> |
+ | <point><b>צדיק ורע לו</b> – When hardships befall righteous people, it can be assumed that Hashem is punishing them for the few sins that they committed.<fn>See also <multilink><a href="BavliBerakhot5a" data-aht="source">Bavli Berakhot</a><a href="BavliBerakhot5a" data-aht="source">Berakhot 5a</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink> which suggests that if bad comes on you and you cant figure out why, one should look at their deeds to see if they have done something wrong.</fn> Ramban suggests that suffering often befalls a righteous person for their accidental misdeeds which do not require punishment in the Wolrd to Come, but nonetheless need to be atoned. R. Bachya suggests that the sin might be one of omission, in not convincing their generation to repent, even if they themselves did not commit any sins. | ||
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<li>On the other hand, Ramban says suffering can come as a punishment for a sin committed accidentally.</li> | <li>On the other hand, Ramban says suffering can come as a punishment for a sin committed accidentally.</li> | ||
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Version as of 03:59, 3 August 2017
Theodicy – צדיק ורע לו
Exegetical Approaches
Just Compensation in This World
Everyone gets their appropriate due in this world. Though it sometimes seems as if innocent people are being punished or wicked people are being rewarded, this is only because outsiders often over or under evaluate the righteousness of a person, or misunderstand the nature of the compensation.
Misperception of Righteousness
A so-called wicked or righteous person might not always be what they seem. Thus, wrong-doers might have merits that justify their rewards, while the righteous might have committed sins which justify their punishment.
- On the other hand, Ramban says suffering can come as a punishment for a sin committed accidentally.
Misperception of Retribution
What appears to be a reward or a punishment might actually be the opposite. As such, what is construed as unjust retribution is really not so.
- Sometimes Hashem causes the righteous to suffer a little in order to avoid him from suffering a lot.
- Sometimes Hashem keeps the wicked person alive in order for them to witness an even worse punishment than they would have witnessed.
- In some cases, the good is a cause for bad, and the whole purpose really is the punishment. For example by Paroh, Hashem did not punish him in order so he will experience the splitting of the sea which was a harsher punishment than he would have received.
Just Compensation in the World to Come
People do not get their just compensation in this world. It is only in the world to come, that Hashem gives everyone their appropriate due.
- Natural order – Hasehm does not purposely wrong people, rather he lets the world act on its own, and therefore some people in this world do not deserve what happens to them.
- Test – R. Saadia explains Hashem's purpose to be a test in order to publicize the commitment of the righteous man even with all the troubles he goes through, and seeing the unworthy retribution the wrongdoer received. Hashem is testing the righteous man to see if he will continue to follow the right path even though he is compensated wrongly. He knows they will tolerate the punishment they don't deserve, and later on in their life or in the world to come, He gives them an abundance of good.
- Hashem is using the wicked man for a different purpose before he punishes him, such as to fight with a different nation.
- The righteous man is suffering over the sins of his generation, or of his ancestors, and not his own sins.
Not All Receive Just Compensation
People who do not merit Divine providence might not get just compensation. As their lives are ruled by nature, sometimes rewards or punishments are given to the undeserving.