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<point><b>Afflictions of love</b> – This position could agree with Rambam who appears to totally reject the concept of afflictions of love,<fn>Rambam claims that despite Chazal's claims in <a href="BavliBerakhot5a" data-aht="source">Berakhot 5a</a>, the Torah never speaks of a concept of "afflictions of love".</fn> or with Ramban who claims that even such afflictions serve to purify for some degree of sin.  He explains that they are considered "afflictions of love" since they come to erase inadvertent sins which are not severe enough to require punishment in the World to Come, but nonetheless need to be atoned.<fn>He claims that in the time of the Mikdash a sin offering would have sufficed, but since its destruction, suffering serves as a replacement.</fn></point> | <point><b>Afflictions of love</b> – This position could agree with Rambam who appears to totally reject the concept of afflictions of love,<fn>Rambam claims that despite Chazal's claims in <a href="BavliBerakhot5a" data-aht="source">Berakhot 5a</a>, the Torah never speaks of a concept of "afflictions of love".</fn> or with Ramban who claims that even such afflictions serve to purify for some degree of sin.  He explains that they are considered "afflictions of love" since they come to erase inadvertent sins which are not severe enough to require punishment in the World to Come, but nonetheless need to be atoned.<fn>He claims that in the time of the Mikdash a sin offering would have sufficed, but since its destruction, suffering serves as a replacement.</fn></point> | ||
<point><b>The Suffering of Iyyov</b> – This approach matches that of Elifaz and the other friends in Sefer Iyyov, who try to convince Iyyov that, despite his righteous reputation, his afflictions must be punishment for sin. However, the opening of the book suggests that Iyyov was free of sin, and even if he had committed minor offenses it is hard to see how they could justify the severity of his suffering. This position might respond that Iyyov's questioning of Hashem after his suffering proved his lack of righteousness.  Nonetheless, the fact that Hashem rebukes Iyyov's friends suggests that their words to Iyyov were misguided.</point> | <point><b>The Suffering of Iyyov</b> – This approach matches that of Elifaz and the other friends in Sefer Iyyov, who try to convince Iyyov that, despite his righteous reputation, his afflictions must be punishment for sin. However, the opening of the book suggests that Iyyov was free of sin, and even if he had committed minor offenses it is hard to see how they could justify the severity of his suffering. This position might respond that Iyyov's questioning of Hashem after his suffering proved his lack of righteousness.  Nonetheless, the fact that Hashem rebukes Iyyov's friends suggests that their words to Iyyov were misguided.</point> | ||
− | <point><b>Exile and enslavement in Egypt</b> – This approach would maintain that both the exile and enslavement were punishment for sins of the nation.  [See <a href="Purposes of the Egyptian Bondage" data-aht="page">Purposes of the Egyptian Bondage</a> for discussion of the possible sins that were committed.] It would further suggest that each individual slave was worked more or less, in accordance with their deeds.</point> | + | <point><b>Exile and enslavement in Egypt</b> – This approach would maintain that, despite the silence in the text, both the exile and enslavement were punishment for sins of the nation.  [See <a href="Purposes of the Egyptian Bondage" data-aht="page">Purposes of the Egyptian Bondage</a> for discussion of the possible sins that were committed.] It would further suggest that each individual slave was worked more or less, in accordance with their deeds.</point> |
<point><b>Prophetic complaints</b> – If there really is no such thing as "צדיק ורע לו", why is it that the prophets complain about the phenomenon?  <br/> | <point><b>Prophetic complaints</b> – If there really is no such thing as "צדיק ורע לו", why is it that the prophets complain about the phenomenon?  <br/> | ||
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<li>Ramban explains that even though the prophets intellectually knew that there is ultimate justice, in the moment of suffering, they too complained about their fate.</li> | <li>Ramban explains that even though the prophets intellectually knew that there is ultimate justice, in the moment of suffering, they too complained about their fate.</li> | ||
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− | <point><b>Collective punishment</b> – According to this position, there is no collective punishment, but rather each person is punished only for their own sins. When the collective appears to be punished in Tanakh, that is because all the people | + | <point><b>Collective punishment</b> – According to this position, there is no collective punishment, but rather each person is punished only for their own sins. When the collective appears to be punished in Tanakh, that is because all the people afflicted are really culpable, either for the same sin, or for individual crimes of their own.  For elaboration, see <a href="Philosophy:Collective Punishment" data-aht="page">Collective Punishment</a>.</point> |
− | <point><b>"פֹּקֵד עֲוֺן אָבוֹת עַל בָּנִים"</b></point> | + | <point><b>"פֹּקֵד עֲוֺן אָבוֹת עַל בָּנִים"</b> – This approach could agree with Shadal<fn>This is the position Shadal expressed in his Ohev Ger in 1830. In Bikkurei HaIttim HaChadashim (1846) pp. 6b-8a, Shadal offers a different position and later explicitly retracts what he wrote in Ohev Ger. By then, his earlier interpretation had already been adopted and expounded on by R. Y"S Reggio.</fn> and <multilink><a href="רישריגייוביכוריהעתיםהחדשיםתרועמח--יג" data-aht="source">R. Reggio</a><a href="רישריגייוביכוריהעתיםהחדשיםתרועמח--יג" data-aht="source">R. Y"S Reggio Bikkurei HaIttim (1846)</a></multilink><fn>This represents R. Reggio's updated approach to the topic as discussed in his article in Bikkurei HaIttim (1846). In his earlier Torah commentary (published in 1821) he had expressed a different understanding of the verse, but after reading Shadal's explanation (as published in Ohev Ger) he changed his thoughts on the matter.</fn> that this verse does not mean that children are punished for their parents sins, but rather that Hashem punishes children even for sins which they learned from their parents' conduct.<fn>"עֲוֹן אָבוֹת" means the sins which children learned from their parents, not the sins of the parents.</fn>  As such, the child themselves are guilty and only suffering for their own actions, not those of their ancestors.  See <a href="Are Children Punished for Parents' Sins" data-aht="page">Are Children Punished for Parents' Sins</a> for more.</point> |
<point><b>Divine Justice</b></point> | <point><b>Divine Justice</b></point> | ||
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− | <point><b>Verses in Torah which promise retribution or reward</b> – These verses refer to recompense in this world, which are meted out to both the collective and individuals, as they deserve.  As most of the verses speak of physical good, the Rambam's claim that true reward is intellectual in nature is somewhat difficult.</point> | + | <point><b>Verses in Torah which promise retribution or reward</b> – These verses refer to recompense in this world, which are meted out to both the collective and individuals, as they deserve.  As most of the verses speak of physical good, the Rambam's claim that true reward is intellectual/spiritual in nature is somewhat difficult.</point> |
<point><b>Hashem's providence: individual or collective?</b> According to this approach, there is both individual and collective providence in this world.</point> | <point><b>Hashem's providence: individual or collective?</b> According to this approach, there is both individual and collective providence in this world.</point> | ||
<point><b>World to Come</b> – Hashem does not wait for the World to Come to mete out retribution, but punishes and rewards where the deeds were done.</point> | <point><b>World to Come</b> – Hashem does not wait for the World to Come to mete out retribution, but punishes and rewards where the deeds were done.</point> | ||
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<point><b>Natural order and Divine providence</b> – Though all these sources testify to the existence of individual Divine providence, they claim that this world is generally run via natural law,<fn>They refer to this as the astronomical system (מערכת הכוכבים).</fn> and not such providence.<fn>Though these sources disagree regarding the exact nature of individual providence, they seem to concur that not all individuals merit it to the same degree. Like the Rambam, they suggest that the more righteous one is (or the more in line with the active intellect), the more providence one will receive. According to Ralbag, this means that some people might not merit any individual providence at all.   Ramban similarly points out that only purely righteous or purely wicked people will merit miraculous intervention, while the majority of average people will be left to the ways of the world.</fn>  Thus, in this world, individuals might be harmed by, or benefit from, the vicissitudes of nature unrelated to their particular merits.<fn>The Ran points to Rava's statement in <multilink><a href="BavliMoedKatan28a" data-aht="source">Moed Katan</a><a href="BavliMoedKatan28a" data-aht="source">Moed Katan 28a</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink> that length of life and livelihood are dependent on the constellations rather than one's merits, as proven by the very different fates of Rabbah and R. Chisda despite their both being Torah giants. He gives another example from everyday life:  if an individual walks outside with an uncovered head in the middle of the summer, it is likely that s/he will get a headache, but thi is not because s/he is being individually targeted.</fn> Only a person who is so righteous that he merits Divine intervention to overturn nature will be protected from undeserved chance disasters.</point> | <point><b>Natural order and Divine providence</b> – Though all these sources testify to the existence of individual Divine providence, they claim that this world is generally run via natural law,<fn>They refer to this as the astronomical system (מערכת הכוכבים).</fn> and not such providence.<fn>Though these sources disagree regarding the exact nature of individual providence, they seem to concur that not all individuals merit it to the same degree. Like the Rambam, they suggest that the more righteous one is (or the more in line with the active intellect), the more providence one will receive. According to Ralbag, this means that some people might not merit any individual providence at all.   Ramban similarly points out that only purely righteous or purely wicked people will merit miraculous intervention, while the majority of average people will be left to the ways of the world.</fn>  Thus, in this world, individuals might be harmed by, or benefit from, the vicissitudes of nature unrelated to their particular merits.<fn>The Ran points to Rava's statement in <multilink><a href="BavliMoedKatan28a" data-aht="source">Moed Katan</a><a href="BavliMoedKatan28a" data-aht="source">Moed Katan 28a</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink> that length of life and livelihood are dependent on the constellations rather than one's merits, as proven by the very different fates of Rabbah and R. Chisda despite their both being Torah giants. He gives another example from everyday life:  if an individual walks outside with an uncovered head in the middle of the summer, it is likely that s/he will get a headache, but thi is not because s/he is being individually targeted.</fn> Only a person who is so righteous that he merits Divine intervention to overturn nature will be protected from undeserved chance disasters.</point> | ||
<point><b>Sharing the fate of the collective</b> – A corollary of the above is the idea that since, in this world, general providence takes precedence, the world is "judged according to the majority".<fn>See <multilink><a href="BavliKiddushin40b_2" data-aht="source">Bavli Kiddushin</a><a href="BavliKiddushin40b_2" data-aht="source">Kiddushin 40b</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink></fn>  Thus, often individuals might share the fate of the many, even if undeserving.  If the majority of the nation deserves punishment, the few righteous individuals within will suffer as well, while if the community deserve blessings, the few wicked will reap the reward with them.<fn>The <multilink><a href="Kuzari3-19" data-aht="source">Kuzari</a><a href="Kuzari3-19" data-aht="source">3:19</a><a href="R. Yehuda HaLevi" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yehuda HaLevi</a></multilink> brings the example of a drought that is decreed upon a nation due to their wrongdoing.  Despite their righteousness, this will still affect the few believers living in the country. [As above, the only exceptions would be truly outstanding individuals who are miraculously saved, or are otherwise protected by Divine providence.]</fn> For further discussion of collective punishment, see <a href="Philosophy:Collective Punishment" data-aht="page">Collective Punishment</a>.</point> | <point><b>Sharing the fate of the collective</b> – A corollary of the above is the idea that since, in this world, general providence takes precedence, the world is "judged according to the majority".<fn>See <multilink><a href="BavliKiddushin40b_2" data-aht="source">Bavli Kiddushin</a><a href="BavliKiddushin40b_2" data-aht="source">Kiddushin 40b</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink></fn>  Thus, often individuals might share the fate of the many, even if undeserving.  If the majority of the nation deserves punishment, the few righteous individuals within will suffer as well, while if the community deserve blessings, the few wicked will reap the reward with them.<fn>The <multilink><a href="Kuzari3-19" data-aht="source">Kuzari</a><a href="Kuzari3-19" data-aht="source">3:19</a><a href="R. Yehuda HaLevi" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yehuda HaLevi</a></multilink> brings the example of a drought that is decreed upon a nation due to their wrongdoing.  Despite their righteousness, this will still affect the few believers living in the country. [As above, the only exceptions would be truly outstanding individuals who are miraculously saved, or are otherwise protected by Divine providence.]</fn> For further discussion of collective punishment, see <a href="Philosophy:Collective Punishment" data-aht="page">Collective Punishment</a>.</point> | ||
− | <point><b>The World to Come</b> – According to this position, the existence of suffering in this world (and the assumption of Hashem's justice) is one of the strongest proofs that a World to Come exists.<fn>See <multilink><a href="RSaadiaGaonHaEmunotVeHaDeiot9-1" data-aht="source">R. Saadia</a><a href="RSaadiaGaonHaEmunotVeHaDeiot9-1" data-aht="source">HaEmunot VeHaDeiot 9</a><a href="R. Saadia Gaon" data-aht="parshan">About R. Saadia Gaon</a></multilink> who says this explicitly. R. Crescas questions why it is never mentioned in Torah, and answers that already during the period of the Egyptian bondage, belief in an afterlife was so enrooted in the people, that there was no need.</fn> | + | <point><b>The World to Come</b> – According to this position, the existence of suffering in this world (and the assumption of Hashem's justice) is one of the strongest proofs that a World to Come exists.<fn>See <multilink><a href="RSaadiaGaonHaEmunotVeHaDeiot9-1" data-aht="source">R. Saadia</a><a href="RSaadiaGaonHaEmunotVeHaDeiot9-1" data-aht="source">HaEmunot VeHaDeiot 9</a><a href="R. Saadia Gaon" data-aht="parshan">About R. Saadia Gaon</a></multilink> who says this explicitly. R. Crescas questions why it is never mentioned in Torah, and answers that already during the period of the Egyptian bondage, belief in an afterlife was so enrooted in the people, that there was no need.</fn> Since the World to Come is the ultimate goal, it is not problematic that justice is deferred until then.<fn>If one views the two worlds as part of one continuum,</fn></point> |
− | <point><b>Verses in Torah which promise retribution or reward</b> – Many verses promise physical rewards or punishments which appear to refer to compensation in this world,<fn>As the blessings include agricultural rewards, victory over enemies, children and health, they would seem to relate to this world rather than the next.</fn>and as such present a difficulty for this position.  R. Crescas responds that the retribution spoken about in the verses is for the collective, and refers to national rather than individual rewards. This works with the vast majority of blessings/curses In Torah, which are indeed collective in nature (speaking of war/peace, rain/drought, etc.) However, Devarim 29 explicitly refers to sinning individuals and states that they will receive the curses mentioned beforehand in Parashat Ki Tavo, suggesting that | + | <point><b>Verses in Torah which promise retribution or reward</b> – Many verses promise physical rewards or punishments which appear to refer to compensation in this world,<fn>As the blessings include agricultural rewards, victory over enemies, children and health, they would seem to relate to this world rather than the next.</fn>and as such present a difficulty for this position.  R. Crescas responds that the retribution spoken about in the verses is for the collective, and refers to national rather than individual rewards. This works with the vast majority of blessings/curses In Torah, which are indeed collective in nature (speaking of war/peace, rain/drought, etc.) However, Devarim 29 explicitly refers to sinning individuals and states that they will receive the curses mentioned beforehand in Parashat Ki Tavo, suggesting that other blessings/ curses in Torah refer to the individual as well.</point> |
<point><b>Devarim</b></point> | <point><b>Devarim</b></point> | ||
+ | <point><b>Immediate punishment of the sinner in Devarim 7</b></point> | ||
<point><b>Iyyov</b> – R. Saadia understands Iyyov's suffering to be a test,<fn>That seems to be the simple reading of the verses, that the Satan wanted to test Iyyov to see if he will continue to worship Hashem even with all his kids dying and his possessions taken.</fn> and as we read at the end of the book, Iyyov got an abundance of good at the end of his life.<fn>See Iyyov 42:12, "וַי"י בֵּרַךְ אֶת אַחֲרִית אִיּוֹב מֵרֵאשִׁתוֹ".</fn></point> | <point><b>Iyyov</b> – R. Saadia understands Iyyov's suffering to be a test,<fn>That seems to be the simple reading of the verses, that the Satan wanted to test Iyyov to see if he will continue to worship Hashem even with all his kids dying and his possessions taken.</fn> and as we read at the end of the book, Iyyov got an abundance of good at the end of his life.<fn>See Iyyov 42:12, "וַי"י בֵּרַךְ אֶת אַחֲרִית אִיּוֹב מֵרֵאשִׁתוֹ".</fn></point> | ||
<point><b>Purposes of the Egyptian bondage</b> – The Ran view as afflictions of love.</point> | <point><b>Purposes of the Egyptian bondage</b> – The Ran view as afflictions of love.</point> | ||
<point><b>"פֹּקֵד עֲוֺן אָבוֹת עַל בָּנִים"</b></point> | <point><b>"פֹּקֵד עֲוֺן אָבוֹת עַל בָּנִים"</b></point> | ||
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<point><b>Afflictions of love</b> – T.</point> | <point><b>Afflictions of love</b> – T.</point> | ||
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</opinion> | </opinion> | ||
<opinion>Individual Providence and Afflictions of Love | <opinion>Individual Providence and Afflictions of Love |
Version as of 08:18, 17 August 2017
Theodicy – צדיק ורע לו
Exegetical Approaches
Just Compensation in This World
Everyone gets their appropriate due in this world. Though it sometimes seems as if innocent people are being punished or wicked people are being rewarded, this is only because outsiders often misevaluate the righteousness of a person, or misunderstand the nature of their compensation:
Misperception of Righteousness
A person with a reputation for wickedness or righteousness might not always be what they seem. Thus, wrong-doers might have merits that justify their rewards, while the righteous might have committed sins which justify their punishment.
- Unaware of deeds – As people are not privy to all the actions of others, they are not always aware of their faults or merits. Thus, Ramban posits that suffering might result from accidental misdeeds of which the righteous themselves might not even be cognizant. Chovot HaLevavot adds that the sins might be ones of omission,3 not apparent to outsiders. In addition many deeds (both positive and negative) are done in private, or involve thoughts rather than actions.
- Ignore human potential – Ralbag4 suggests that people do not always take an individual's potential into account when evaluating their deeds. If a person is righteous but had the potential to do significantly more than he did, he is not as deserving as he seems.5 Similarly, if a wicked person is born without a certain capacity for good, he should not be held culpable when he does not have many good deeds to his name.
- As prophets are human, they are not always privy to man's every action and might make assumptions about righteousness, just like laymen, leading them to question Hashem's justice.
- Ramban explains that even though the prophets intellectually knew that there is ultimate justice, in the moment of suffering, they too complained about their fate.
Misperception of Retribution
What appears to be a reward or a punishment might actually be the opposite. As such, what is construed as unjust retribution is really not so.
- Physical goods are not true rewards – Rambam suggests that people assume that happiness comes from physical good (such as health, children and wealth), when in reality these pale in comparison to the ultimate good: knowledge of Hashem.12 Thus, an outsider might consider a צדיק who lives in poverty to be suffering, when in fact that individual is on such a spiritual level that they simply do not regard physical suffering as suffering at all.
- Missing full picture – Most other commentators suggest, instead, that compensation is often misconstrued since people tend to only see part of a person's retribution:
- Delayed punishment / reward – The illusion of injustice might be caused by the fact that Hashem does not always give recompense immediately after one commits a sin or does a good deed,13 making it difficult to see how every action is paid for measure for measure14 . Shadal points out, however, that if one were to look at an individual's retribution over the span of a lifetime, one would see that it matches his deeds.15
- Unknown goal of retribution – A person might receive what appears to be a reprieve in punishment, or even a reward, but in reality the point is to ultimately cause more damage later. For example, R. Saadia claims that Paroh did not die at the beginning of the cycle of plagues to ensure that he suffer through all and eventually drown in the sea. Similarly, the wicked might get a small blessing, only so as to prevent them from receiving a much greater undeserved reward.16 The inverse is also true; the righteous sometimes suffer slight hardships to prevent bigger catastrophes,17 or enable greater rewards.18
- Only external compensation apparent – Often a person's emotional well being is less apparent to an outsider than his physical rewards, leading to the misconception that "רשע וטוב לו" while in fact the individual is suffering emotional turmoil. Thus, R"Y Albo suggests that though people might envy the wealthy, having much property is more of a curse than a reward, as Chazal say, "מרבה נכסים מרבה דאגה".19
- Rambam explains that once Iyyov attained a strong understanding of Hashem he himself acknowledged that true happiness is not related to physical good, but to recognition of God. As such, any physical harm that had come to him was insignificant. As evidence he points to Iyyov's words, "לְשֵׁמַע אֹזֶן שְׁמַעְתִּיךָ וְעַתָּה עֵינִי רָאָתְךָ עַל כֵּן אֶמְאַס וְנִחַמְתִּי עַל עָפָר וָאֵפֶר".
- This position might also explain that the book ends with Iyyov not only regaining all he lost, but being rewarded with more than he had at the outset. This proves that over one's lifetime Hashem compensates for any suffering, evening out the score before death. However, one might question if the anguish caused by loss is really undone when that loss is replaced (even if it is replaced by something more valuable).20
Just Compensation in the World to Come
People do not get their just compensation in this world. It is only in the World to Come that Hashem gives everyone their appropriate due. The position subdivides regarding the reason why true compensation is delayed:
Natural Order and General Providence
Since this world is usually run via natural order, and retribution is meted out according to the majority, at times an individual receives undeserved retribution.
Individual Providence and Afflictions of Love
Targum Onkelos, Sifre Devarim, Yerushalmi, Bavli, Targum Pseudo-Jonathan, R. Saadia Gaon, Chovot HaLevavot, Rashi, Kuzari, Radak, Ramban, Ralbag, Ran, R. Chasdai Crescas, Sefer HaIkkarim, Abarbanel, R. Avraham Saba
Just Compensation in the World to Come
People do not get their just compensation in this world. It is only in the World to Come that Hashem gives everyone their appropriate due. The position subdivides regarding the reason why true compensation is delayed:
- Natural order – Ralbag, Ran, R. Crescas and Abarbanel all point out that this world is generally run via natural law,41 and not individual Divine providence.42 Thus, in this world, individuals might be harmed by, or benefit from, the vicissitudes of nature unrelated to their particular merits.43 Only a person who is so righteous that he merits Divine intervention to overturn nature will be protected from undeserved chance disasters.
- Part of the collective – A corollary of the above is the idea that since, in this world, general rather than individual providence takes precedence, individuals might share the fate of the many, even if undeserving. Thus, if the majority of the nation deserves punishment, the few righteous individuals within will suffer as well.44
- Afflictions of love –
- Test – R. Saadia explains Hashem's purpose to be a test in order to publicize the commitment of the righteous man even with all the troubles he goes through, and seeing the unworthy retribution the wrongdoer received. Hashem is testing the righteous man to see if he will continue to follow the right path even though he is compensated wrongly. He knows they will tolerate the punishment they don't deserve, and later on in their life or in the world to come, He gives them an abundance of good.
- Hashem is using the wicked man for a different purpose before he punishes him, such as to fight with a different nation.
- The righteous man is suffering over the sins of his generation, or of his ancestors, and not his own sins.
Not All Receive Just Compensation
People who do not merit Divine providence might not get just compensation. As their lives are ruled by nature, sometimes rewards or punishments are given to the undeserving.