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− | <p>Everyone gets their appropriate due in this world.  Though it sometimes seems as if innocent people are being punished or wicked people are being rewarded, this is only because outsiders often | + | <p>Everyone gets their appropriate due in this world.  Though it sometimes seems as if innocent people are being punished or wicked people are being rewarded, this is only because outsiders often misevaluate the righteousness of a person, or misunderstand the nature of the compensation.</p> |
<opinion>Misperception of Righteousness | <opinion>Misperception of Righteousness | ||
<p>A so-called wicked or righteous person might not always be what they seem.  Thus, wrong-doers might have merits that justify their rewards, while the righteous might have committed sins which justify their punishment.</p> | <p>A so-called wicked or righteous person might not always be what they seem.  Thus, wrong-doers might have merits that justify their rewards, while the righteous might have committed sins which justify their punishment.</p> | ||
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<li>Most of these sources suggest that these ultimate rewards/punishments will come only in the World to Come, thus bringing this approach very close to position #2 below. </li> | <li>Most of these sources suggest that these ultimate rewards/punishments will come only in the World to Come, thus bringing this approach very close to position #2 below. </li> | ||
− | <li>R. Saadia, followed by R. Bachya, suggests that at times Hashem holds off punishment knowing that the person is to repent | + | <li>R. Saadia, followed by R. Bachya, suggests that at times Hashem holds off punishment knowing that the person is to repent,<fn>As an example, he points to King Menasheh.</fn> or conversely, so as to compound the punishment later.<fn>as an example, he points to Paroh's surviving the plagues so that he can endure all and eventually drown in the Sea.</fn></li> |
</ul></point> | </ul></point> | ||
− | + | <point><b>Hashem's providence</b> – According to this approach, there is individual providence, and Hashem is aware of all of an individual's deeds and compensates them appropriately.</point> | |
− | <point><b>Hashem's providence</b> – | + | <point><b>World to Come</b> – These commentators hold that no undeserved retribution is given in this world, however, the deserved retribution sometimes is only given in the world to come.  Therefore, in some cases, already in this world Hashem ensures to pay off for any good deeds performed, so in the world to come they will be worthy of only punishments.</point> |
− | <point><b>World to | ||
<point><b>Afflictions of love</b> – Ramban understands that all affliction of love come as a punishment for a sin.</point> | <point><b>Afflictions of love</b> – Ramban understands that all affliction of love come as a punishment for a sin.</point> | ||
<point><b>Prophetic complaints</b> – Ramban explains that the prophets were not questioning whether Hashem was acting justly, rather it was a way of complaining about their fate.<fn>The Bavli already notes that Chavakkuk is asking Hashem about the evil swallowing relatively righteous people.  However the nation, was not even near to being perfect, and Chavakkuk was not doubting Hashem's justice.</fn></point> | <point><b>Prophetic complaints</b> – Ramban explains that the prophets were not questioning whether Hashem was acting justly, rather it was a way of complaining about their fate.<fn>The Bavli already notes that Chavakkuk is asking Hashem about the evil swallowing relatively righteous people.  However the nation, was not even near to being perfect, and Chavakkuk was not doubting Hashem's justice.</fn></point> | ||
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Just Compensation in the World to Come | Just Compensation in the World to Come | ||
− | <p>People do not get their just compensation in this world.  It is only in the | + | <p>People do not get their just compensation in this world.  It is only in the World to Come that Hashem gives everyone their appropriate due.</p> |
<mekorot><multilink><a href="TargumOnkelosDevarim7-10" data-aht="source">Targum Onkelos</a><a href="TargumOnkelosDevarim7-10" data-aht="source">Devarim 7:10</a><a href="Targum Onkelos" data-aht="parshan">About Targum Onkelos</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="SifreDevarim11-26" data-aht="source">Sifre Devarim</a><a href="SifreDevarim11-26" data-aht="source">11:26</a><a href="Sifre Devarim" data-aht="parshan">About Sifre Devarim</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="YerushalmiChagigah2-1" data-aht="source">Yerushalmi</a><a href="YerushalmiChagigah2-1" data-aht="source">Chagigah 2:1</a><a href="Talmud Yerushalmi" data-aht="parshan">About the Yerushalmi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="BavliShabbat30b" data-aht="source">Bavli</a><a href="BavliShabbat30b" data-aht="source">Shabbat 30b</a><a href="BavliTaanit11a" data-aht="source">Taanit 11a</a><a href="BavliKiddushin40b" data-aht="source">Kiddushin 40b</a><a href="BavliChulin142a" data-aht="source">Chulin 142a</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>,<fn>According to the Bavli in Taanit, the seemingly wrong retribution is given rightfully because of minute sins or mitzvot performed, and the retribution they do deserve which is missing, will be given to them in the world to come.</fn> <multilink><a href="TargumPseudo-JonathanDevarim7-10" data-aht="source">Targum Pseudo-Jonathan</a><a href="TargumPseudo-JonathanDevarim7-10" data-aht="source">Devarim 7:10</a><a href="Targum Pseudo-Jonathan" data-aht="parshan">About Targum Pseudo-Jonathan</a></multilink>, second opinion in <multilink><a href="RSaadiaGaonHaEmunotVeHaDeiot5-2-3" data-aht="source">R. Saadia Gaon</a><a href="RSaadiaGaonHaEmunotVeHaDeiot5-2-3" data-aht="source">HaEmunot VeHaDeiot 5:2-3</a><a href="R. Saadia Gaon" data-aht="parshan">About R. Saadia Gaon</a></multilink>,<fn>R. Saadia Gaon suggests that the true compensation might occur later in life in this world, and does not explicitly say in the world to come.  He brings as examples Iyyov and Paroh who both received at the end of their life, a reward or a punishment, respectively.</fn> second opinion in <multilink><a href="ChovotHaLevavot4-3" data-aht="source">Chovot HaLevavot</a><a href="ChovotHaLevavot4-3" data-aht="source">4:3</a><a href="Chovot HaLevavot" data-aht="parshan">About R. Bachya ibn Pakuda</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RashiDevarim32-4" data-aht="source">Rashi</a><a href="RashiDevarim32-4" data-aht="source">Devarim 32:4</a><a href="RashiBerakhot5a" data-aht="source">Berakhot 5a</a><a href="R. Shelomo Yitzchaki (Rashi)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shelomo Yitzchaki</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="Kuzari3-19" data-aht="source">Kuzari</a><a href="Kuzari3-19" data-aht="source">3:19</a><a href="Kuzari6-1" data-aht="source">6:1</a><a href="R. Yehuda HaLevi" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yehuda HaLevi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RadakHoshea14-10" data-aht="source">Radak</a><a href="RadakHoshea14-10" data-aht="source">Hoshea 14:10</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Kimchi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="DerashotHaRan8" data-aht="source">Ran</a><a href="DerashotHaRan8" data-aht="source">Derashot HaRan 8</a><a href="R. Nissim Gerondi (Ran)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Nissim Gerondi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="SeferHaIkkarim4-12" data-aht="source">Sefer HaIkkarim</a><a href="SeferHaIkkarim4-7" data-aht="source">4:7</a><a href="SeferHaIkkarim4-12" data-aht="source">4:12</a><a href="SeferHaIkkarim4-13" data-aht="source">4:13</a><a href="Sefer HaIkkarim" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yosef Albo</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="AbarbanelDevarim4-15-24" data-aht="source">Abarbanel</a><a href="AbarbanelDevarim4-15-24" data-aht="source">Devarim 4:15-24</a><a href="AbarbanelDevarim32-1" data-aht="source">Devarim 32:1</a><a href="R. Yitzchak Abarbanel" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yitzchak Abarbanel</a></multilink>,<fn>It is not so clear from Abarbanel if a person might get an unworthy retribution in this world, or if a person only does not get all his worthy retribution (being punished only and not rewarded), similarly to the first opinion.</fn></mekorot> | <mekorot><multilink><a href="TargumOnkelosDevarim7-10" data-aht="source">Targum Onkelos</a><a href="TargumOnkelosDevarim7-10" data-aht="source">Devarim 7:10</a><a href="Targum Onkelos" data-aht="parshan">About Targum Onkelos</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="SifreDevarim11-26" data-aht="source">Sifre Devarim</a><a href="SifreDevarim11-26" data-aht="source">11:26</a><a href="Sifre Devarim" data-aht="parshan">About Sifre Devarim</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="YerushalmiChagigah2-1" data-aht="source">Yerushalmi</a><a href="YerushalmiChagigah2-1" data-aht="source">Chagigah 2:1</a><a href="Talmud Yerushalmi" data-aht="parshan">About the Yerushalmi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="BavliShabbat30b" data-aht="source">Bavli</a><a href="BavliShabbat30b" data-aht="source">Shabbat 30b</a><a href="BavliTaanit11a" data-aht="source">Taanit 11a</a><a href="BavliKiddushin40b" data-aht="source">Kiddushin 40b</a><a href="BavliChulin142a" data-aht="source">Chulin 142a</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>,<fn>According to the Bavli in Taanit, the seemingly wrong retribution is given rightfully because of minute sins or mitzvot performed, and the retribution they do deserve which is missing, will be given to them in the world to come.</fn> <multilink><a href="TargumPseudo-JonathanDevarim7-10" data-aht="source">Targum Pseudo-Jonathan</a><a href="TargumPseudo-JonathanDevarim7-10" data-aht="source">Devarim 7:10</a><a href="Targum Pseudo-Jonathan" data-aht="parshan">About Targum Pseudo-Jonathan</a></multilink>, second opinion in <multilink><a href="RSaadiaGaonHaEmunotVeHaDeiot5-2-3" data-aht="source">R. Saadia Gaon</a><a href="RSaadiaGaonHaEmunotVeHaDeiot5-2-3" data-aht="source">HaEmunot VeHaDeiot 5:2-3</a><a href="R. Saadia Gaon" data-aht="parshan">About R. Saadia Gaon</a></multilink>,<fn>R. Saadia Gaon suggests that the true compensation might occur later in life in this world, and does not explicitly say in the world to come.  He brings as examples Iyyov and Paroh who both received at the end of their life, a reward or a punishment, respectively.</fn> second opinion in <multilink><a href="ChovotHaLevavot4-3" data-aht="source">Chovot HaLevavot</a><a href="ChovotHaLevavot4-3" data-aht="source">4:3</a><a href="Chovot HaLevavot" data-aht="parshan">About R. Bachya ibn Pakuda</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RashiDevarim32-4" data-aht="source">Rashi</a><a href="RashiDevarim32-4" data-aht="source">Devarim 32:4</a><a href="RashiBerakhot5a" data-aht="source">Berakhot 5a</a><a href="R. Shelomo Yitzchaki (Rashi)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shelomo Yitzchaki</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="Kuzari3-19" data-aht="source">Kuzari</a><a href="Kuzari3-19" data-aht="source">3:19</a><a href="Kuzari6-1" data-aht="source">6:1</a><a href="R. Yehuda HaLevi" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yehuda HaLevi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RadakHoshea14-10" data-aht="source">Radak</a><a href="RadakHoshea14-10" data-aht="source">Hoshea 14:10</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Kimchi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="DerashotHaRan8" data-aht="source">Ran</a><a href="DerashotHaRan8" data-aht="source">Derashot HaRan 8</a><a href="R. Nissim Gerondi (Ran)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Nissim Gerondi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="SeferHaIkkarim4-12" data-aht="source">Sefer HaIkkarim</a><a href="SeferHaIkkarim4-7" data-aht="source">4:7</a><a href="SeferHaIkkarim4-12" data-aht="source">4:12</a><a href="SeferHaIkkarim4-13" data-aht="source">4:13</a><a href="Sefer HaIkkarim" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yosef Albo</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="AbarbanelDevarim4-15-24" data-aht="source">Abarbanel</a><a href="AbarbanelDevarim4-15-24" data-aht="source">Devarim 4:15-24</a><a href="AbarbanelDevarim32-1" data-aht="source">Devarim 32:1</a><a href="R. Yitzchak Abarbanel" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yitzchak Abarbanel</a></multilink>,<fn>It is not so clear from Abarbanel if a person might get an unworthy retribution in this world, or if a person only does not get all his worthy retribution (being punished only and not rewarded), similarly to the first opinion.</fn></mekorot> | ||
<point><b>צדיק ורע לו</b> – The righteous man is suffering in this world unjustly, so in the world to come he will get an abundance of good.</point> | <point><b>צדיק ורע לו</b> – The righteous man is suffering in this world unjustly, so in the world to come he will get an abundance of good.</point> |
Version as of 11:42, 6 August 2017
Theodicy – צדיק ורע לו
Exegetical Approaches
Just Compensation in This World
Everyone gets their appropriate due in this world. Though it sometimes seems as if innocent people are being punished or wicked people are being rewarded, this is only because outsiders often misevaluate the righteousness of a person, or misunderstand the nature of the compensation.
Misperception of Righteousness
A so-called wicked or righteous person might not always be what they seem. Thus, wrong-doers might have merits that justify their rewards, while the righteous might have committed sins which justify their punishment.
- Accidental wrongdoing – According to Ramban, suffering often befalls righteous people for their accidental misdeeds which are not severe enough to require punishment in the World to Come, but nonetheless need to be atoned. He suggests that in the time of the Mikdash a sin offering would have sufficed, but since its destruction, suffering serves as a replacement.
- Sin of omission – R. Bachya suggests that the sin might be one of omission, such as refraining from rebuking those who deserve punishment and abetting them to repent.
- Sins in secret – Other sins might be done behind closed doors, or involve thoughts rather than actions.
- Most of these sources suggest that these ultimate rewards/punishments will come only in the World to Come, thus bringing this approach very close to position #2 below.
- R. Saadia, followed by R. Bachya, suggests that at times Hashem holds off punishment knowing that the person is to repent,3 or conversely, so as to compound the punishment later.4
Misperception of Retribution
What appears to be a reward or a punishment might actually be the opposite. As such, what is construed as unjust retribution is really not so.
- Sometimes Hashem causes the righteous to suffer a little in order to avoid him from suffering a lot.
- Sometimes Hashem keeps the wicked person alive in order for them to witness an even worse punishment than they would have witnessed.
- In some cases, the good is a cause for bad, and the whole purpose really is the punishment. For example by Paroh, Hashem did not punish him in order so he will experience the splitting of the sea which was a harsher punishment than he would have received.
Just Compensation in the World to Come
People do not get their just compensation in this world. It is only in the World to Come that Hashem gives everyone their appropriate due.
- Natural order – Hasehm does not purposely wrong people, rather he lets the world act on its own, and therefore some people in this world do not deserve what happens to them.
- Test – R. Saadia explains Hashem's purpose to be a test in order to publicize the commitment of the righteous man even with all the troubles he goes through, and seeing the unworthy retribution the wrongdoer received. Hashem is testing the righteous man to see if he will continue to follow the right path even though he is compensated wrongly. He knows they will tolerate the punishment they don't deserve, and later on in their life or in the world to come, He gives them an abundance of good.
- Hashem is using the wicked man for a different purpose before he punishes him, such as to fight with a different nation.
- The righteous man is suffering over the sins of his generation, or of his ancestors, and not his own sins.
Not All Receive Just Compensation
People who do not merit Divine providence might not get just compensation. As their lives are ruled by nature, sometimes rewards or punishments are given to the undeserving.