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<p>Akeidat Yitzchak and Abarbanel have conflicting views regarding Moshe's handling of the petition of the two and half tribes.&#160; While Akeidat Yitzchak justifies Moshe's angry reaction as the appropriate response to a problematic request, Abarbanel posits that Moshe over-reacted and misunderstood the tribes' true intentions.</p>
 
<p>Akeidat Yitzchak and Abarbanel have conflicting views regarding Moshe's handling of the petition of the two and half tribes.&#160; While Akeidat Yitzchak justifies Moshe's angry reaction as the appropriate response to a problematic request, Abarbanel posits that Moshe over-reacted and misunderstood the tribes' true intentions.</p>
 
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<li>With whom do you agree? Set up a debate at your Shabbat table using <a href="Petition of the Two and a Half Tribes" data-aht="page">Petition of the Two and a Half Tribes</a> to aid in the discussion.</li>
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<li>With whom do you agree? Set up a debate at your Shabbat table, uisng <a href="Petition of the Two and a Half Tribes" data-aht="page">Petition of the Two and a Half Tribes</a> to aid in the discussion.</li>
<li>Is it problematic to criticize Moshe and suggest that he might have had imperfect leadership skills?&#160; What other stories in Tanakh might</li>
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<li>Is it problematic to criticize Moshe and suggest that he might have had imperfect leadership skills?&#160; Interestingly, despite his position here, elsewhere Abarbanel&#160; gets upset at those who find fault with Moshe.<fn>He writes, "Many have already spoken much about this matter, against the master of prophets, suggesting that he was lacking in civic leadership… And this is a lie, for the perfection of his ways demonstrates his knowledge of them."</fn> See his debate with Ralbag in&#160; <a href="Did Moshe Need Yitro's Advice" data-aht="page">Did Moshe Need Yitro's Advice</a> for elaboration.</li>
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<p>When speaking of the tribes that negotiated settling the eastern bank of the Jordan, many refer to the group as the "two and half tribes," not distinguishing between Reuven, Gad and Menashe. Since readers know that Menashe settled in the East, they often do not even notice that throughout the discussion with Moshe, it is only Reuven and Gad who play a role, while Menashe is conspicuously absent.&#160;</p>
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<li>Was Menashe not part of the original petition?&#160; If so, why are they not mentioned? If not, why did they too settle the lands? See <a href="Menashe Joins Reuven and Gad" data-aht="page">Menashe Joins Reuven and Gad</a>.</li>
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<li>Can you think of other examples where knowledge of the end of the story might hamper your reading of the beginning?&#160; For some examples:</li>
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<li>Did Yaakov's sons know from the beginning that they were all to be chosen?&#160; If not how might that help explain the behavior of both the brothers and Yosef?&#160; See <a href="Yosef's Treatment of his Family" data-aht="page">Yosef's Treatment of his Family</a>.</li>
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<li>Did the nation know in advance that Yericho was to be destroyed via miracle?&#160; How might that affect your understanding of the <a href="Purpose of the Spies in Yehoshua 2" data-aht="page">Purpose of the Spies in Yehoshua 2</a>?</li>
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<li>Was Yerushalayim the only option for the "place that God will choose"?&#160; Was it already chosen from the beginning of time?&#160; See <a href="Choice of Yerushalayim" data-aht="page">Choice of Yerushalayim</a>.</li>
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Shabbat Table Topics – Parashat Mattot

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Imperfection in our Leaders?

Akeidat Yitzchak and Abarbanel have conflicting views regarding Moshe's handling of the petition of the two and half tribes.  While Akeidat Yitzchak justifies Moshe's angry reaction as the appropriate response to a problematic request, Abarbanel posits that Moshe over-reacted and misunderstood the tribes' true intentions.

  • With whom do you agree? Set up a debate at your Shabbat table, uisng Petition of the Two and a Half Tribes to aid in the discussion.
  • Is it problematic to criticize Moshe and suggest that he might have had imperfect leadership skills?  Interestingly, despite his position here, elsewhere Abarbanel  gets upset at those who find fault with Moshe.1 See his debate with Ralbag in  Did Moshe Need Yitro's Advice for elaboration.

The Handicap of the Omniscient Reader

When speaking of the tribes that negotiated settling the eastern bank of the Jordan, many refer to the group as the "two and half tribes," not distinguishing between Reuven, Gad and Menashe. Since readers know that Menashe settled in the East, they often do not even notice that throughout the discussion with Moshe, it is only Reuven and Gad who play a role, while Menashe is conspicuously absent. 

  • Was Menashe not part of the original petition?  If so, why are they not mentioned? If not, why did they too settle the lands? See Menashe Joins Reuven and Gad.
  • Can you think of other examples where knowledge of the end of the story might hamper your reading of the beginning?  For some examples:
    • Did Yaakov's sons know from the beginning that they were all to be chosen?  If not how might that help explain the behavior of both the brothers and Yosef?  See Yosef's Treatment of his Family.
    • Did the nation know in advance that Yericho was to be destroyed via miracle?  How might that affect your understanding of the Purpose of the Spies in Yehoshua 2?
    • Was Yerushalayim the only option for the "place that God will choose"?  Was it already chosen from the beginning of time?  See Choice of Yerushalayim.