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<h1>נושאים לשולחן שבת – פרשת תולדת</h1>
 
<h1>נושאים לשולחן שבת – פרשת תולדת</h1>
<category>Sale of the Birthright
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<p>How should each of Yaakov and Esav be evaluated for their role in the sale of the birthright?</p>
 
<p>How should each of Yaakov and Esav be evaluated for their role in the sale of the birthright?</p>
 
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<li>Was Yaakov taking advantage of his brother's hunger for his own gain?&#160; Was the sale not an example of extortion? Or, is there more going on in the story than a cursory read suggests?</li>
 
<li>Was Yaakov taking advantage of his brother's hunger for his own gain?&#160; Was the sale not an example of extortion? Or, is there more going on in the story than a cursory read suggests?</li>
 
<li>Was Esav's willingness to sell the birthright a sign of his impetuous nature, indicative of his living only in the moment, or was it a logical decision given the circumstances?&#160;</li>
 
<li>Was Esav's willingness to sell the birthright a sign of his impetuous nature, indicative of his living only in the moment, or was it a logical decision given the circumstances?&#160;</li>
<li>The way one answers the above is partially dependent on how one understands the birthright.&#160; Was Yaakov purchasing a monetary inheritance (<multilink><a href="IbnEzraBereshitFirstCommentary25-31" data-aht="source">Ibn Ezra</a><a href="IbnEzraBereshitFirstCommentary25-31" data-aht="source">Bereshit First Commentary 25:31</a><a href="R. Avraham ibn Ezra" data-aht="parshan">About R. Avraham ibn Ezra</a></multilink>), a religious status (<multilink><a href="RashiBereshit25-31" data-aht="source">Rashi</a><a href="RashiBereshit25-31" data-aht="source">Bereshit 25:31</a><a href="R. Shelomo Yitzchaki (Rashi)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shelomo Yitzchaki</a></multilink>), or Avraham's legacy (<multilink><a href="RDavidZviHoffmannBereshit25-31" data-aht="source">R. D"Z Hoffmann</a><a href="RDavidZviHoffmannBereshit25-31" data-aht="source">Bereshit 25:31</a><a href="R. David Zvi Hoffmann" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Zvi Hoffmann</a></multilink>)?&#160; Which position is best supported by the text?&#160; How does each affect your understanding of the story as a whole? &#160; See <a href="Sale of the Birthright – A Fair Deal" data-aht="page">Sale of the Birthright A Fair Deal</a> for elaboration.</li>
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<li>The way one answers the above is partially dependent on how one understands the birthright.&#160; Was Yaakov purchasing a monetary inheritance (<multilink><a href="IbnEzraBereshitFirstCommentary25-31" data-aht="source">אבן עזרא</a><a href="IbnEzraBereshitFirstCommentary25-31" data-aht="source">בראשית פירוש ראשון כ״ה:ל״א</a><a href="R. Avraham ibn Ezra" data-aht="parshan">אודות ר' אברהם אבן עזרא</a></multilink>), a religious status (<multilink><a href="RashiBereshit25-31" data-aht="source">רש״י</a><a href="RashiBereshit25-31" data-aht="source">בראשית כ״ה:ל״א</a><a href="R. Shelomo Yitzchaki (Rashi)" data-aht="parshan">אודות ר' שלמה יצחקי</a></multilink>), or Avraham's legacy (<multilink><a href="RDavidZviHoffmannBereshit25-31" data-aht="source">ר׳ דוד צבי הופמן</a><a href="RDavidZviHoffmannBereshit25-31" data-aht="source">בראשית כ״ה:ל״א</a><a href="R. David Zvi Hoffmann" data-aht="parshan">אודות ר' דוד צבי הופמן</a></multilink>)?&#160; Which position is best supported by the text?&#160; How does each affect your understanding of the story as a whole? &#160; ראו להרחבה, <a href="Sale of the Birthright – A Fair Deal" data-aht="page">מכירת הבכורה עסקה הוגנת?</a></li>
 
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<category>Who to Bless
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<p>Given that Hashem ultimately wanted Yaakov to get the blessing, as evidenced by His confirmation thereof,&#160; how are we to understand Yitzchak's original plan to bestow it on Esav? See <a href="Why Bless Esav" data-aht="page">Why Bless Esav?</a></p>
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<p>Given that Hashem ultimately wanted Yaakov to get the blessing, as evidenced by His confirmation thereof,&#160; how are we to understand Yitzchak's original plan to bestow it on Esav? ראו <a href="Why Bless Esav" data-aht="page">למה רצה יצחק לברך את עשו?</a></p>
 
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<li>Several commentators assume that Yitzchak had actually planned on blessing both his sons, thinking that Yaakov and Esav would share in the leadership of the future nation, with Yaakov taking on a spiritual role and Esav caring for the physical. Rivka disagreed, assuming that such dividing of the material from the spiritual would be catastrophic. Do you agree?</li>
 
<li>Several commentators assume that Yitzchak had actually planned on blessing both his sons, thinking that Yaakov and Esav would share in the leadership of the future nation, with Yaakov taking on a spiritual role and Esav caring for the physical. Rivka disagreed, assuming that such dividing of the material from the spiritual would be catastrophic. Do you agree?</li>
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<category>Esav and Rome
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<p>In the post-Biblical period, Esav has been associated with both Rome and Christianity, and has often been presented as the archetype of Israel's sworn enemy.&#160; Where does this association come from? How has it impacted on the exegesis of Bereshit?</p>
 
<p>In the post-Biblical period, Esav has been associated with both Rome and Christianity, and has often been presented as the archetype of Israel's sworn enemy.&#160; Where does this association come from? How has it impacted on the exegesis of Bereshit?</p>
 
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<li>Interestingly, the identification might have influenced different commentators in opposing ways.&#160; Midrashic literature, viewing Esav as the progenitor of their contemporary enemy, Rome, often reads Esav in a harsh light, presenting him as wicked as his modern counterpart.&#160; Josephus, in contrast, a Roman lackey, was loathe to denigrate his superiors, and thus paints a far more neutral portrait of Esav.</li>
 
<li>Interestingly, the identification might have influenced different commentators in opposing ways.&#160; Midrashic literature, viewing Esav as the progenitor of their contemporary enemy, Rome, often reads Esav in a harsh light, presenting him as wicked as his modern counterpart.&#160; Josephus, in contrast, a Roman lackey, was loathe to denigrate his superiors, and thus paints a far more neutral portrait of Esav.</li>
<li>Which view of Esav emerges from a simple reading of the text, (when not encumbered by knowledge of future history)?&#160; See <a href="A Portrait of Esav" data-aht="page">A Portrait of Esav</a>.</li>
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<li>Which view of Esav emerges from a simple reading of the text, (when not encumbered by knowledge of future history)?&#160; See <a href="A Portrait of Esav" data-aht="page">דמותו של עשו</a>.</li>
<li>Can you think of other examples where an exegete's evaluation of a character or reading of a story is influenced by their personal life experiences and time period? For one example, see commentators' evaluations of Achashverosh in <a href="Achashverosh's Shock and Fury" data-aht="page">Achashverosh's Shock and Fury</a> .</li>
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<li>Can you think of other examples where an exegete's evaluation of a character or reading of a story is influenced by their personal life experiences and time period? For one example, see commentators' evaluations of Achashverosh in <a href="Achashverosh's Shock and Fury" data-aht="page">תדהמת אחשורוש וכעסו</a> .</li>
 
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Version as of 06:09, 24 July 2019

נושאים לשולחן שבת – פרשת תולדת

מכירת הבכורה

How should each of Yaakov and Esav be evaluated for their role in the sale of the birthright?

את מי לברך?

Given that Hashem ultimately wanted Yaakov to get the blessing, as evidenced by His confirmation thereof,  how are we to understand Yitzchak's original plan to bestow it on Esav? ראו למה רצה יצחק לברך את עשו?

  • Several commentators assume that Yitzchak had actually planned on blessing both his sons, thinking that Yaakov and Esav would share in the leadership of the future nation, with Yaakov taking on a spiritual role and Esav caring for the physical. Rivka disagreed, assuming that such dividing of the material from the spiritual would be catastrophic. Do you agree?
  • Others assume that Yitzchak, being aware that Esav was less righteous than his brother, hoped that giving him a blessing would motivate him to improve his ways. Is it fair to reward negative behavior in such a manner? Is this an example of "positive reinforcement" or more like a "bribe"?  

עשו ורומא

In the post-Biblical period, Esav has been associated with both Rome and Christianity, and has often been presented as the archetype of Israel's sworn enemy.  Where does this association come from? How has it impacted on the exegesis of Bereshit?

  • Interestingly, the identification might have influenced different commentators in opposing ways.  Midrashic literature, viewing Esav as the progenitor of their contemporary enemy, Rome, often reads Esav in a harsh light, presenting him as wicked as his modern counterpart.  Josephus, in contrast, a Roman lackey, was loathe to denigrate his superiors, and thus paints a far more neutral portrait of Esav.
  • Which view of Esav emerges from a simple reading of the text, (when not encumbered by knowledge of future history)?  See דמותו של עשו.
  • Can you think of other examples where an exegete's evaluation of a character or reading of a story is influenced by their personal life experiences and time period? For one example, see commentators' evaluations of Achashverosh in תדהמת אחשורוש וכעסו .

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לעוד נושאים בפרשה, ראו: רשימת נושאים – פרשת תולדת.