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<li><span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit;">Rabbi Jo</span><span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit;">seph B. Soloveitchik writes that gluttony represents a pagan way of life, which stands in contradistinction to a Torah way of life.</span><fn>Rabbi Soloveitchik contrasts this sin with that of the Golden Calf. The Sin of re Golden Calf was indeed a violation of a precept of idolatry but it did not represent the nation's lifestyle. The one-time ceremony or ritual of idolatry was only due to the nation's fear of Moshe's death. Here, however, the attitude of the people was a more egregious sin--one that conveyed a lifestyle in contradiction to the Torah.</fn></li> | <li><span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit;">Rabbi Jo</span><span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit;">seph B. Soloveitchik writes that gluttony represents a pagan way of life, which stands in contradistinction to a Torah way of life.</span><fn>Rabbi Soloveitchik contrasts this sin with that of the Golden Calf. The Sin of re Golden Calf was indeed a violation of a precept of idolatry but it did not represent the nation's lifestyle. The one-time ceremony or ritual of idolatry was only due to the nation's fear of Moshe's death. Here, however, the attitude of the people was a more egregious sin--one that conveyed a lifestyle in contradiction to the Torah.</fn></li> | ||
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+ | <point><b>Tehillim 78</b> – This chapter also reflects the nation's gluttonous nature. The result of the quail was וְתַאֲוָתָם יָבִא לָהֶם in <a href="Tehillim78" data-aht="source">Tehillim 78:18</a>.</point> | ||
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<point><b>Request of Shemot 16</b> – Rashi argues that the request for meat in Shemot was also a negative, gluttonous request.<fn><a href="BavliYoma75a-b" data-aht="source">Yoma 75a-b</a> writes that Hashem gave meat "לא כהוגן," "improperly," because it was asked for "לא כהוגן." Most read this statement a referring to the request for meat in Shemot 16. There, meat was given at night, a more inconvenient time to collect. See עיון יעקב who argues the Gemara refers to Bemidbar 11 instead,</fn> Nonetheless, such a request was not as severe as the one in Bemidbar 11.</point> | <point><b>Request of Shemot 16</b> – Rashi argues that the request for meat in Shemot was also a negative, gluttonous request.<fn><a href="BavliYoma75a-b" data-aht="source">Yoma 75a-b</a> writes that Hashem gave meat "לא כהוגן," "improperly," because it was asked for "לא כהוגן." Most read this statement a referring to the request for meat in Shemot 16. There, meat was given at night, a more inconvenient time to collect. See עיון יעקב who argues the Gemara refers to Bemidbar 11 instead,</fn> Nonetheless, such a request was not as severe as the one in Bemidbar 11.</point> | ||
<point><b>בֹּכֶה לְמִשְׁפְּחֹתָיו</b> – The Sifre understands that the crying by families was really a crying <i>about</i> families. Once the prohibitions of illicit sexual relations were introduced, families were forced to split up due to prohibited relationships.</point> | <point><b>בֹּכֶה לְמִשְׁפְּחֹתָיו</b> – The Sifre understands that the crying by families was really a crying <i>about</i> families. Once the prohibitions of illicit sexual relations were introduced, families were forced to split up due to prohibited relationships.</point> | ||
− | <point><b>Moshe's Response</b> | + | <point><b>Moshe's Response</b><ul> |
− | <point><b>הִתְאַוּוּ תַּאֲוָה</b> | + | <li><span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit;">According to these commentators, Moshe's extreme response may be more understandable as this request is questioning the validity of Hashem's commandments.</span></li> |
+ | <li><a href="Maharsha" data-aht="source">Maharsha</a> writes that, in <a href="Bemidbar11" data-aht="source">Bemidbar 11:22</a>, Moshe expresses doubt of Hashem's ability to supply meat because of the existing prohibition against eating non-sacrificial meat. </li> | ||
+ | </ul></point> | ||
+ | <point><b>הִתְאַוּוּ תַּאֲוָה</b><ul> | ||
+ | <li><span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit;">According to some commentators, the request itself for meat was problematic in that it really was a mask for a greater desire to rid themselves of Hashem's commandments.</span></li> | ||
+ | <li><span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit;"><a href="Maharsha" data-aht="source">Maharsha</a> claims the nation was trying to uproot the prohibition of eating בשר תאוה, non-sacrificial meat. The people wanted to ensure that when it came time to enter the Land of Israel, meat would be permitted.</span></li> | ||
+ | </ul></point> | ||
+ | <point><b>Tehillim 78</b> – <span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit;">The words </span><span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit;">וַיְנַסּוּ אֵל בִּלְבָבָם reflect a more fundamental issue </span><span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit;">with which</span><span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit;">the nation challenges Hashem.</span><span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit;"> </span></point> | ||
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<opinion>Testing Hashem's Abilities | <opinion>Testing Hashem's Abilities | ||
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<point><b>Fish or meat</b> – The request was not limited to meat. The people also questioned Hashem's ability to provide fish as well.</point> | <point><b>Fish or meat</b> – The request was not limited to meat. The people also questioned Hashem's ability to provide fish as well.</point> | ||
<point><b>בֹּכֶה לְמִשְׁפְּחֹתָיו</b> – <multilink><a href="RashiBemidbar11-10" data-aht="source">Rashi</a><a href="RashiBemidbar11-10" data-aht="source">Bemidbar 11:10</a><a href="R. Shelomo Yitzchaki (Rashi)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shelomo Yitzchaki</a></multilink> writes that the people gathered families together to publicize their complaint against Hashem.</point> | <point><b>בֹּכֶה לְמִשְׁפְּחֹתָיו</b> – <multilink><a href="RashiBemidbar11-10" data-aht="source">Rashi</a><a href="RashiBemidbar11-10" data-aht="source">Bemidbar 11:10</a><a href="R. Shelomo Yitzchaki (Rashi)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shelomo Yitzchaki</a></multilink> writes that the people gathered families together to publicize their complaint against Hashem.</point> | ||
− | <point><b>Tehillim 78</b> – | + | <point><b>Tehillim 78</b> – The words וַיְנַסּוּ אֵל בִּלְבָבָם reflect the nation testing Hashem's ability to provide food.</point> |
<point><b>Moshe's Response</b> – According to these commentators, Moshe's extreme response may be more understandable as this request is questioning the abilities of Hashem.</point> | <point><b>Moshe's Response</b> – According to these commentators, Moshe's extreme response may be more understandable as this request is questioning the abilities of Hashem.</point> | ||
<point><b>הִתְאַוּוּ תַּאֲוָה</b> – The request itself for meat perhaps was not problematic. R' Zedekiah Ben R. Avraham argues that had the nation made its request in a way that didn't imply testing Hashem, the request may have been granted.</point> | <point><b>הִתְאַוּוּ תַּאֲוָה</b> – The request itself for meat perhaps was not problematic. R' Zedekiah Ben R. Avraham argues that had the nation made its request in a way that didn't imply testing Hashem, the request may have been granted.</point> | ||
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<point><b>Moshe's Response</b> – Moshe too may have understood the severity of this request. The nation was underlying the basis of its relationship with Hashem.</point> | <point><b>Moshe's Response</b> – Moshe too may have understood the severity of this request. The nation was underlying the basis of its relationship with Hashem.</point> | ||
<point><b>הִתְאַוּוּ תַּאֲוָה</b> – Rashbam writes that had the nation asked for meat without regretting leaving Egypt, the result would not have been as bad as we seen it was.</point> | <point><b>הִתְאַוּוּ תַּאֲוָה</b> – Rashbam writes that had the nation asked for meat without regretting leaving Egypt, the result would not have been as bad as we seen it was.</point> | ||
+ | <point><b>Tehillim 78</b> – Seen in the context of the whole chapter, the episode of the quail as told in Tehillim 78 may be a manifestation of וַיִּשְׁכְּחוּ עֲלִילוֹתָיו וְנִפְלְאוֹתָיו אֲשֶׁר הֶרְאָם. The chapter reiterates how the Israelites did not appreciate the good Hashem did in taking them out of Egypt.</point> | ||
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<li><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit;">It is tough to understand why this event pushed Moshe over the edge. Interestingly, we see Moshe also get uncharacteristically angry when the nation violates the rules of Manna collection in <a href="Shemot16" data-aht="source">Shemot 16:20</a>. Perhaps, Moshe, too, understood the significance of Manna to the relationship between the Israelites and Hashem. <br/></span></span></li> | <li><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit;">It is tough to understand why this event pushed Moshe over the edge. Interestingly, we see Moshe also get uncharacteristically angry when the nation violates the rules of Manna collection in <a href="Shemot16" data-aht="source">Shemot 16:20</a>. Perhaps, Moshe, too, understood the significance of Manna to the relationship between the Israelites and Hashem. <br/></span></span></li> | ||
</ul></point> | </ul></point> | ||
+ | <point><b>Tehillim 78</b> – <a href="Tehillim78" data-aht="source">Tehillim 78:24</a> references the Manna and then proceeds to tell of the quail falling in the desert. Perhaps this reflects the Israelites' lack of appreciation or even their degradation of the Manna.</point> | ||
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Version as of 12:25, 24 June 2018
Sinning with Quail
Exegetical Approaches
Gluttony
These commentators understand the intense gluttony of the nation as the sin in this narrative.
- According to this approach, it is still tough to understand why gluttony itself may have caused such an extreme punishment.
- Rabbi Joseph B. Soloveitchik writes that gluttony represents a pagan way of life, which stands in contradistinction to a Torah way of life.4
Theological Issues
The Israelites' request for meat truly represented a much more severe theological issue they had with Hashem and his Torah.
Burden of Commandments
Desire for food and meat are actually masks for a want of freedom from restrictive commandments.
- According to these commentators, Moshe's extreme response may be more understandable as this request is questioning the validity of Hashem's commandments.
- Maharsha writes that, in Bemidbar 11:22, Moshe expresses doubt of Hashem's ability to supply meat because of the existing prohibition against eating non-sacrificial meat.
- According to some commentators, the request itself for meat was problematic in that it really was a mask for a greater desire to rid themselves of Hashem's commandments.
- Maharsha claims the nation was trying to uproot the prohibition of eating בשר תאוה, non-sacrificial meat. The people wanted to ensure that when it came time to enter the Land of Israel, meat would be permitted.
Testing Hashem's Abilities
Complaints about food and meat challenge Hashem's ability to provide food for the hungry nation. Such a lack of belief could be tantamount to idolatry and warrant an extreme punishment.
Alternatively, Abrabanel argues Shemot 16 was also a negative request. However, the nation had not known of the Manna yet and were thus never introduced to messages of the Manna, namely a full belief in Hashem's ability to provide. By Bemidbar 11, the nation was expected to have internalized those messages already. The failure to do so resulted in the punishment
Denying Significance of the Exodus
According to Rashbam, Hashem punished the Israelites for their lack of appreciation for their freedom from Egypt, perhaps a violation of one of the most fundamental beliefs in Judaism.8
"יַעַן כִּי מְאַסְתֶּם אֶת י"י אֲשֶׁר בְּקִרְבְּכֶם וַתִּבְכּוּ לְפָנָיו לֵאמֹר לָמָּה זֶּה יָצָאנוּ מִמִּצְרָיִם".
Degradation of the Manna
According to Rashbam, The Manna represented the ability to depend on Hashem for sustenance. An undermining of such a concept through lack of appreciation for and degradation of the Manna warranted a severe punishment from Hashem.
- On the one hand, perhaps the request for meat itself was not deplorable. Only the way the people went about the request did Hashem deem punishable
- Alternatively, the request for meat may have itself been a degradation to the Manna
- Bemidbar 11:7-9 relates how the Israelites would gather and collect the Manna each day, seemingly interrupting the flow of the narrative. In fact, this interlude may present the contrast of how great the Manna really was and how the people viewed it.
- Alternatively, Rashbam argues the Torah describes the nation grinding and cooking the Manna in 11:8 to reflect poorly on how the nation treated the Manna, a food meant to be eaten pure without any human involvement.
- Perhaps Moshe understood the complaint wasn't as much about the meat as it was about the Manna. Therefore, he was correct in arguing he could not possibly supply enough meat to satisfy the nation's request.
- It is tough to understand why this event pushed Moshe over the edge. Interestingly, we see Moshe also get uncharacteristically angry when the nation violates the rules of Manna collection in Shemot 16:20. Perhaps, Moshe, too, understood the significance of Manna to the relationship between the Israelites and Hashem.