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<multilink><a href="RasagShemot19-9" data-aht="source">R. Saadia Gaon</a><a href="RasagShemot19-9" data-aht="source">Commentary Shemot 19:9-21, 20:1</a><a href="R. Saadia Gaon" data-aht="parshan">About R. Saadia Gaon</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RAvrahamShemot20-1" data-aht="source">R. Maimon</a><a href="RAvrahamShemot20-1" data-aht="source">Shemot 20:1</a><a href="R. Avraham Maimonides" data-aht="parshan">About R. Avraham Maimonides</a></multilink>
 
<multilink><a href="RasagShemot19-9" data-aht="source">R. Saadia Gaon</a><a href="RasagShemot19-9" data-aht="source">Commentary Shemot 19:9-21, 20:1</a><a href="R. Saadia Gaon" data-aht="parshan">About R. Saadia Gaon</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RAvrahamShemot20-1" data-aht="source">R. Maimon</a><a href="RAvrahamShemot20-1" data-aht="source">Shemot 20:1</a><a href="R. Avraham Maimonides" data-aht="parshan">About R. Avraham Maimonides</a></multilink>
 
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<point><b>Moshe's role?</b> R. Saadia and R. Maimon do not suggest that Moshe played an intermediary role in the sense of explaining or relaying commandments in Hashem's stead.&#160; Nonetheless his sattus as above the nation was readily apparent as Hashem aimed His speech at him and not the people.&#160; R. Saadia also adds that after each of Hashem's statements, Moshe repeated it to the people.<fn>Thus, the nation heard each commandment in the Decalogue twice, once from Hashem and once from Moshe.</fn></point>
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<point><b>Moshe's role?</b> R. Saadia and R. Maimon do not suggest that Moshe played an intermediary role in the sense of explaining or relaying commandments in Hashem's stead, but do suggest that the positioning of the conversation set him up as "go-between" of sorts and highlighted his elevated status. R. Saadia also adds that after each of Hashem's statements, Moshe repeated it to the people.<fn>Thus, the nation heard each commandment in the Decalogue twice, once from Hashem and once from Moshe.</fn></point>
<point><b>"פָּנִים בְּפָנִים"</b> – This phrase is somewhat difficult for this approach, since one would not normally refer to overheard speech as a face to face encounter. The commentators might suggest that Moshe is simply saying that (despite the positioning) the nation understood Hashem's words clearly, as they would if they were said to them face to face.</point>
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<point><b>"פָּנִים בְּפָנִים"</b> – This phrase is somewhat difficult for this approach, since one would not normally refer to overheard speech as a face to face encounter. The commentators might suggest that Moshe is simply saying that (despite the positioning) the nation understood Hashem's words clearly, as they would if the statements were said to them face to face.</point>
<point><b>"אָנֹכִי עֹמֵד בֵּין ה' וּבֵינֵיכֶם"</b> – R. Saadia and R. Maimon suggest that the phrase refers to Moshe's role during revelation itself.&#160; According to R. Saadia, Moshe literally stood between the nation and Hashem to repeat to them Hashem's words.<fn><sup id="reffn3" class="fnRef mceNonEditable"><a class="ahtNonEditable" href="#fn3">3</a></sup></fn> &#160;</point>
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<point><b>"אָנֹכִי עֹמֵד בֵּין ה' וּבֵינֵיכֶם"</b> – R. Saadia and R. Maimon suggest that the phrase refers to Moshe's role during revelation itself.&#160; According to R. Saadia, Moshe literally stood between the nation and Hashem to repeat to them Hashem's words.<fn>According to R. Maimon, Moshe did not say anything, so the phrase "לְהַגִּיד לָכֶם אֶת דְּבַר ה'" is difficult. He might say that it was as if Moshe was speaking because it was his position in between the nation and Hashem that enabled them to hear Hashem's speech.</fn> &#160;</point>
<point><b>"וַיְדַבֵּר אֱלֹהִים אֵת כָּל הַדְּבָרִים הָאֵלֶּה"</b> – Ibn Ezra</point>
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<point><b>"וַיְדַבֵּר אֱלֹהִים אֵת כָּל הַדְּבָרִים הָאֵלֶּה"</b> – R. Maimon suggests that there is no stated audience in this sentence since the audience was all who were present, Moshe, Aharon and the nation as a whole.&#160; Hashem spoke to all (despite directing his words at Moshe).&#160; This position might also point to the word "" as evidence that <b>all</b> ten were said by Hashem.<fn>See Ibn Ezra above.</fn></point>
<point><b>"בַּעֲבוּר יִשְׁמַע הָעָם בְּדַבְּרִי עִמָּךְ"</b><ul>
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<point><b>"בַּעֲבוּר יִשְׁמַע הָעָם בְּדַבְּרִי עִמָּךְ"</b> – According to R. Saadia and R. Maimon the verse is understood according to its simple meaning. Hashem did in fact direct his speech to Moshe and was only overheard by the rest of the people. Such a method had the benefit of instilling belief in Moshe.</point>
<li><b>Spoke to Moshe</b> – According to R. Saadia and R. Maimon the verse is understood according to its simple meaning. Hashem did in fact direct his speech to Moshe and was only overheard by the rest of the people. Such a method had the benefit of instilling belief in Moshe.</li>
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<point><b>"דַּבֵּר אַתָּה עִמָּנוּ וְנִשְׁמָעָה"</b> – As above, according to this approach, this scene is found in its chronological place and only occurred after Hashem finished relaying the entire Decalogue.</point>
<li><b>Spoke to all</b> – According to Ibn Ezra, this verse does not insinuate that Hashem was to speak to Moshe alone, but only that when Hashem did speak to him (along with everyone else), his prophetic stature would be verified. The nation had doubted Moshe's prophecy, believing that if Hashem speaks to a person he cannot live afterwards.&#160; Thus, Hashem tells Moshe that when the nation sees Him speaking to Moshe during the giving of the Decalogue, they will finally recognize that this is not true.</li>
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<point><b>"מֹשֶׁה יְדַבֵּר וְהָאֱלֹהִים יַעֲנֶנּוּ בְקוֹל"</b> – R. Saadia connects this verse to the above "בַּעֲבוּר יִשְׁמַע הָעָם בְּדַבְּרִי עִמָּךְ", suggesting that he thinks that it, too, refers to Hashem's speech during the Decalogue.&#160; It simply tells the reader that, to be heard over the shofar, both Moshe and Hashem spoke in loud voices.<fn>Since he claims that Hashem would say each of the Dibrot and then Moshe would repeat it, one might have expected the verse to be written in the opposite order "ה' ידבר ומשה יעננו בקול".&#160; As written, it sounds as if Moshe spoke first.</fn></point>
<li><b>Change of plan</b> - According to Ralbag and Abarbanel, originally, Hashem told Moshe that he would speak to him alone and the nation would overhear, leading them to believe in Moshe's prophecy.<fn><sup id="reffn4" class="fnRef mceNonEditable"><a href="#fn4" class="ahtNonEditable">4</a></sup></fn>&#160; Moshe then clarifies that the nation preferred not to have a mediator but desire a direct face to face revelation which Hashem acquiesced to.<fn><sup id="reffn5" class="fnRef mceNonEditable"><a href="#fn5" class="ahtNonEditable">5</a></sup></fn></li>
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<point><b>Grammatical alternations</b> – This position would agree with Ibn Ezra above that the switch is an example of legitimate, normal variation in Tanakh which holds no significance.</point>
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<point><b>"דַּבֵּר אַתָּה עִמָּנוּ וְנִשְׁמָעָה"</b> – According to these sources, this scene is found in its chronological place and only occurred after Hashem finished relaying the entire Decalogue.&#160; The Sages bring this as proof against the position below which asserts that the people became fearful mid-way through the event and Moshe took over from Hashem after the second statement.</point>
 
<point><b>"מֹשֶׁה יְדַבֵּר וְהָאֱלֹהִים יַעֲנֶנּוּ בְקוֹל"</b><ul>
 
<li><b>Before the Decalogue</b> – According to Ibn Ezra and Abarbanel this refers to the conversation between Moshe and Hashem before the giving of the Decalogue.<fn><sup id="reffn6" class="fnRef mceNonEditable"><a href="#fn6" class="ahtNonEditable">6</a></sup></fn>&#160; Ibn Ezra asserts that the verse is simply saying that Moshe did not fear from the thunder and continued to listen as Hashem spoke to him loudly over nature.&#160; Abarbanel, in contrast, assumes that the verse is relaying that the nation overheard this conversation which was said in a physical voice.</li>
 
<li><b>Before and during</b> – Ralbag maintains that the verse refers to Hashem's words both before and during the Decalogue.<fn><sup id="reffn7" class="fnRef mceNonEditable"><a href="#fn7" class="ahtNonEditable">7</a></sup></fn>&#160; Hashem conversed with Moshe prophetically, but at the same time, He had the message emerge out loud (via a concrete voice rather than a mental transmission) to the nation.</li>
 
<li><b>During the Decalogue</b> – R. Saadia connects this verse to the above "בַּעֲבוּר יִשְׁמַע הָעָם בְּדַבְּרִי עִמָּךְ", suggesting that he thinks that it too refers to Hashem's speech during the Decalogue.&#160; It is simply tells the reader that, to be heard over the shofar, both Moshe and Hashem spoke in loud voices.<fn>Since he claims that Hashem would say each of the Dibrot and then Moshe would repeat it, one migt have expected the verse to be written in the opposite order "ה' ידבר ומשה יעננו בקול".</fn></li>
 
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<point><b>Grammatical Alternations</b> – Ibn Ezra argues that it is a normal for the text to switch between first and third person; in other places too, such as&#160;Shemot 23:18-19, Hashem alternates between speaking of Himself in first and third persons.<fn><sup id="reffn9" class="fnRef mceNonEditable"><a class="ahtNonEditable" href="#fn9">9</a></sup></fn> Ibn Eza also explains the specific location of the switch,&#160; pointing out that after the nation accepted Hashem as their god in the first two commandments, He could then refer to Himself as the Israelites' God in third person.</point>
 
 
<point><b>Purpose of Sinaitic revelation</b></point>
 
<point><b>Purpose of Sinaitic revelation</b></point>
<point><b>Prophecy for the Masses</b> – This approach assumes that anyone can prophesy, even without extended preparation.&#160; Nonetheless, most of these commentators do limit the level of prophecy of the people. Thus, R. Yose b. R. Chanina in the Tanchuma and R. Maimon say that each person grasped Hashem's word according to his own capabilities, while Ralbag and Abarbanel emphasizes how the nation experienced Revelation only via their physical senses, hearing a concrete voice.<fn><sup id="reffn10" class="fnRef mceNonEditable"><a href="#fn10" class="ahtNonEditable">10</a></sup></fn></point>
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<point><b>Prophecy for the masses</b> – This approach assumes that all can prophecy if Hashem so desires, even without lengthy preparation. R. Maimon, though, does qualify that each person understood Hashem's words differently, according to their own abilities and level.&#160;</point>
 
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Version as of 07:13, 19 May 2015

The Decalogue: Direct From Hashem or Via Moshe?

Exegetical Approaches

This topic is currently in progress

All From Hashem

The nation heard the entire Decalogue from Hashem. This position subdivides regarding whether Hashem was directing his words at the people or at Moshe.

Direct Communication

Hashem spoke to the people themselves; they, not Moshe, were his target audience.

Moshe's role? According to these sources, Moshe did not play any significant role during Revelation. He, like the rest of the nation, simply listened to Hashem.  According to Abarbanel, even physically he was positioned amongst the people and not set aside higher up on the mountain.
"פָּנִים בְּפָנִים" – These commentators understand the phrase "פָּנִים בְּפָנִים" to refer to a direct, unmediated encounter.  R. Levi in the Tanchuma describes the experience as one in which each member of the nation felt as if Hashem was speaking to him personally.
"אָנֹכִי עֹמֵד בֵּין ה' וּבֵינֵיכֶם" – According to most of these commentators, these words refer to the mediating role that Moshe assumed after receiving the Decalogue, when giving over the rest of the commandments.1  
"וַיְדַבֵּר אֱלֹהִים אֵת כָּל הַדְּבָרִים הָאֵלֶּה" – Ibn Ezra supports the idea that Hashem relayed all the commandments directly from the text's usage of the words "‎‏כָּל הַדְּבָרִים"‎.2
"בַּעֲבוּר יִשְׁמַע הָעָם בְּדַבְּרִי עִמָּךְ"
  • Spoke to all – According to Ibn Ezra, this verse does not insinuate that Hashem was to speak to Moshe alone, but only that when Hashem did speak to him (along with everyone else), his prophetic stature would be verified. The nation had doubted Moshe's prophecy, believing that if Hashem speaks to a person he cannot live afterwards.  Thus, Hashem tells Moshe that when the nation sees Him speaking to Moshe during the giving of the Decalogue, they will finally recognize that this is not true.
  • Change of plan - According to Ralbag and Abarbanel, originally, Hashem told Moshe that he would speak to him alone and the nation would overhear, leading them to believe in Moshe's prophecy.  Moshe then clarifies to Hashem that the nation preferred not to have a mediator but desire a direct face to face revelation which Hashem acquiesced to.3
"דַּבֵּר אַתָּה עִמָּנוּ וְנִשְׁמָעָה" – According to these sources, this scene is found in its chronological place and only occurred after Hashem finished relaying the entire Decalogue.  The Sages bring this as proof against the position below which asserts that the people became fearful mid-way through the event and Moshe took over from Hashem after the second statement.
"מֹשֶׁה יְדַבֵּר וְהָאֱלֹהִים יַעֲנֶנּוּ בְקוֹל"
  • Before the Decalogue – According to Ibn Ezra and Abarbanel4 this refers to the conversation between Moshe and Hashem before the giving of the Decalogue and, as such, cannot be used to support any position regarding how Hashem delivered the commandments.5
  • Before and during – Ralbag maintains that the verse refers to Hashem's words both before and during the Decalogue.6  Hashem conversed with Moshe prophetically, but at the same time, He had the message emerge out loud (via a concrete voice rather than a mental transmission) to the nation.
Grammatical Alternations – Ibn Ezra argues that it is a normal for the text to switch between first and third person; in other places too, such as Shemot 23:18-19, Hashem alternates between speaking of Himself in first and third persons.7 Ibn Eza also explains the specific location of the switch,  pointing out that after the nation accepted Hashem as their god in the first two commandments, He could then refer to Himself as the Israelites' God in third person.
Purpose of Sinaitic revelation
Prophecy for the Masses – This approach assumes that anyone can prophesy, even without extended preparation.  Nonetheless, most of these commentators do limit the level of prophecy of the people. Thus, R. Yose b. R. Chanina in the Tanchuma says that each person grasped Hashem's word according to his own capabilities, while Ralbag and Abarbanel emphasizes how the nation could only experience Revelation via their physical senses, hearing a concrete (rather than mental) voice.8

Overheard

Hashem's speech was really directed at Moshe, but Hashem ensured that the nation overheard the conversation.

Moshe's role? R. Saadia and R. Maimon do not suggest that Moshe played an intermediary role in the sense of explaining or relaying commandments in Hashem's stead, but do suggest that the positioning of the conversation set him up as "go-between" of sorts and highlighted his elevated status. R. Saadia also adds that after each of Hashem's statements, Moshe repeated it to the people.9
"פָּנִים בְּפָנִים" – This phrase is somewhat difficult for this approach, since one would not normally refer to overheard speech as a face to face encounter. The commentators might suggest that Moshe is simply saying that (despite the positioning) the nation understood Hashem's words clearly, as they would if the statements were said to them face to face.
"אָנֹכִי עֹמֵד בֵּין ה' וּבֵינֵיכֶם" – R. Saadia and R. Maimon suggest that the phrase refers to Moshe's role during revelation itself.  According to R. Saadia, Moshe literally stood between the nation and Hashem to repeat to them Hashem's words.10  
"וַיְדַבֵּר אֱלֹהִים אֵת כָּל הַדְּבָרִים הָאֵלֶּה" – R. Maimon suggests that there is no stated audience in this sentence since the audience was all who were present, Moshe, Aharon and the nation as a whole.  Hashem spoke to all (despite directing his words at Moshe).  This position might also point to the word "" as evidence that all ten were said by Hashem.11
"בַּעֲבוּר יִשְׁמַע הָעָם בְּדַבְּרִי עִמָּךְ" – According to R. Saadia and R. Maimon the verse is understood according to its simple meaning. Hashem did in fact direct his speech to Moshe and was only overheard by the rest of the people. Such a method had the benefit of instilling belief in Moshe.
"דַּבֵּר אַתָּה עִמָּנוּ וְנִשְׁמָעָה" – As above, according to this approach, this scene is found in its chronological place and only occurred after Hashem finished relaying the entire Decalogue.
"מֹשֶׁה יְדַבֵּר וְהָאֱלֹהִים יַעֲנֶנּוּ בְקוֹל" – R. Saadia connects this verse to the above "בַּעֲבוּר יִשְׁמַע הָעָם בְּדַבְּרִי עִמָּךְ", suggesting that he thinks that it, too, refers to Hashem's speech during the Decalogue.  It simply tells the reader that, to be heard over the shofar, both Moshe and Hashem spoke in loud voices.12
Grammatical alternations – This position would agree with Ibn Ezra above that the switch is an example of legitimate, normal variation in Tanakh which holds no significance.
Purpose of Sinaitic revelation
Prophecy for the masses – This approach assumes that all can prophecy if Hashem so desires, even without lengthy preparation. R. Maimon, though, does qualify that each person understood Hashem's words differently, according to their own abilities and level. 

All Via Moshe

The nation understood none of Hashem's words, requiring Moshe to mediate between the people and Hashem throughout the entire Decalogue.

פָּנִים בְּפָנִים – The words "פָּנִים בְּפָנִים" may refer to the sound the nation saw directly (even though they did not understand it).
אָנֹכִי עֹמֵד בֵּין ה' וּבֵינֵיכֶם – This verse can be understood simply by these commentators.
בַּעֲבוּר יִשְׁמַע הָעָם בְּדַבְּרִי עִמָּךְ – According to the Rambam, the nation heard a sound, but only Moshe heard Hashem's words. He proves this from Devarim 4:12, where we are told "קוֹל דְּבָרִים אַתֶּם שֹׁמְעִים", which implies they only heard a sound ("קוֹל"), but not the words themselves.
דַּבֵּר אַתָּה עִמָּנוּ וְנִשְׁמָעָה – Even the plain sound was enough to scare the people, who wanted that in the future Moshe would hear Hashem's commands privately, without a terrible noise.
Grammatical Alternations – The Rambam ignores the grammatical differences between the commandments, presumably attributing them to literary variation.
Purpose of Sinaitic revelation
Prophecy for the Masses – According to the Rambam, indiscriminate prophecy is impossible, and therefore the only one who heard the full Decalogue directly from Hashem was Moshe. However, the Rambam agrees that other people, such as Aharon and his sons, could hear something, depending on their spiritual level.

Combination - Two versus Eight

Heard only two

The nation heard Hashem directly during the first two commandments, but then got scared and asked Moshe to tell them the rest.

פָּנִים בְּפָנִים – The first two commandments were given "face to face", directly from Hashem to Israel.
אָנֹכִי עֹמֵד בֵּין ה' וּבֵינֵיכֶם – During the last eight commandments, Moshe served as an intermediary.
בַּעֲבוּר יִשְׁמַע הָעָם בְּדַבְּרִי עִמָּךְ
דַּבֵּר אַתָּה עִמָּנוּ וְנִשְׁמָעָה – This approach understands this to have happened in the middle of the Decalogue, between the second and third commandments.
Grammatical Alternations – R. Yosef Kara adduces support for this approach from the fact that the Decalogue switches from first person to third person when referring to Hashem.
Purpose of Sinaitic revelation
Prophecy for the Masses – These commentators assume that Hashem may allow the uninitiated to prophesy.

Comprehended Only Two

Hashem gave all of the commandments directly to the nation, but were able to comprehend only the first two, and Moshe had to transmit the contents of the last eight to them.

פָּנִים בְּפָנִים – All of the commandments were given "face to face", although the Israelites did not understand all of them.
אָנֹכִי עֹמֵד בֵּין ה' וּבֵינֵיכֶם – During the last eight commandments, Moshe served as an intermediary, explaining to the Israelites what they heard.
בַּעֲבוּר יִשְׁמַע הָעָם בְּדַבְּרִי עִמָּךְ
דַּבֵּר אַתָּה עִמָּנוּ וְנִשְׁמָעָה – This approach understands this to have happened in the middle of the Decalogue, between the second and third commandments.
Difference Between Commandments – Ramban explains that the first two commandments are necessary foundations, upon which all other commandments rest, and therefore were given directly by Hashem. The last eight were explained by Moshe in order to prove that he is the messenger of Hashem.
Grammatical Alternations – R. Yosef Kara adduces support for this approach from the fact that the Decalogue switches from first person to third person when referring to Hashem.
Purpose of Sinaitic revelation
Prophecy for the Masses – These commentators assume that Hashem may allow the uninitiated to prophesy.