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<mekorot><multilink><a href="אוצרהגאוניםברכותהתשובותו" data-aht="source">Rav Shrira Gaon</a><a href="אוצרהגאוניםברכותהתשובותו" data-aht="source">אוצר הגאונים ברכות התשובות ו'</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="IbnEzraShemotSecondCommentary28-6" data-aht="source">Lekach Tov</a><a href="IbnEzraShemotSecondCommentary28-6" data-aht="source">Shemot 29:15</a><a href="R. Toviah b. Eliezer (Lekach Tov)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Toviah b. Eliezer</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RambamHilkhotBeitHaBechirah4-1_2" data-aht="source">Rambam</a><a href="RambamHilkhotBeitHaBechirah4-1_2" data-aht="source">Hilkhot Beit HaBechirah 4:1</a><a href="RambamHilkhotKeleiHaMikdash10-10-13" data-aht="source">Hilkhot Kelei HaMikdash 10:10-13</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Maimon (Rambam, Maimonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe b. Maimon</a></multilink>,<fn>Rambam is not explicit, but this is how he has been understood by many later commentators.&#160; See, for example, <multilink><a href="HaKetavVeHaKabbalahShemot28-30" data-aht="source">HaKetav VeHaKabbalah</a><a href="HaKetavVeHaKabbalahShemot28-30" data-aht="source">Shemot 28:30</a><a href="R. Yaakov Mecklenburg (HaKetav VeHaKabbalah)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yaakov Mecklenburg</a></multilink>.</fn> <multilink><a href="RAvrahambHaRambamShemot28-30" data-aht="source">R. Avraham b. HaRambam</a><a href="RAvrahambHaRambamShemot28-30" data-aht="source">Shemot 28:30</a><a href="R. Avraham Maimonides" data-aht="parshan">About R. Avraham Maimonides</a></multilink></mekorot>
 
<mekorot><multilink><a href="אוצרהגאוניםברכותהתשובותו" data-aht="source">Rav Shrira Gaon</a><a href="אוצרהגאוניםברכותהתשובותו" data-aht="source">אוצר הגאונים ברכות התשובות ו'</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="IbnEzraShemotSecondCommentary28-6" data-aht="source">Lekach Tov</a><a href="IbnEzraShemotSecondCommentary28-6" data-aht="source">Shemot 29:15</a><a href="R. Toviah b. Eliezer (Lekach Tov)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Toviah b. Eliezer</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RambamHilkhotBeitHaBechirah4-1_2" data-aht="source">Rambam</a><a href="RambamHilkhotBeitHaBechirah4-1_2" data-aht="source">Hilkhot Beit HaBechirah 4:1</a><a href="RambamHilkhotKeleiHaMikdash10-10-13" data-aht="source">Hilkhot Kelei HaMikdash 10:10-13</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Maimon (Rambam, Maimonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe b. Maimon</a></multilink>,<fn>Rambam is not explicit, but this is how he has been understood by many later commentators.&#160; See, for example, <multilink><a href="HaKetavVeHaKabbalahShemot28-30" data-aht="source">HaKetav VeHaKabbalah</a><a href="HaKetavVeHaKabbalahShemot28-30" data-aht="source">Shemot 28:30</a><a href="R. Yaakov Mecklenburg (HaKetav VeHaKabbalah)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yaakov Mecklenburg</a></multilink>.</fn> <multilink><a href="RAvrahambHaRambamShemot28-30" data-aht="source">R. Avraham b. HaRambam</a><a href="RAvrahambHaRambamShemot28-30" data-aht="source">Shemot 28:30</a><a href="R. Avraham Maimonides" data-aht="parshan">About R. Avraham Maimonides</a></multilink></mekorot>
 
<point><b>Relationship between 28:29 and 28:30</b></point>
 
<point><b>Relationship between 28:29 and 28:30</b></point>
<point><b>Why are they not described?</b> Since the Urim and Tummin are identical with the stones of teh Choshen,</point>
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<point><b>Why are they not described?</b> Since the Urim and Tummin are identical with the stones of the Choshen,</point>
 
<point><b>Why are the Urim and Tumim not mentioned in Shemot 39?</b></point>
 
<point><b>Why are the Urim and Tumim not mentioned in Shemot 39?</b></point>
 
<point><b>Why are they called Urim and Tumim?</b><ul>
 
<point><b>Why are they called Urim and Tumim?</b><ul>
<li>Rav Shrira Gaon explains that although they are the same as the Choshen stones they got a special name as a sign of praise.</li>
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<li>Rav Shrira Gaon explains that although they are the same as the Choshen stones they were given a special name as a sign of praise.</li>
 
<li>Lekach Tov</li>
 
<li>Lekach Tov</li>
 
</ul></point>
 
</ul></point>

Version as of 15:06, 25 January 2022

Urim VeTumim

Exegetical Approaches

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The Choshen Stones

The Urim and Tummim are identified with the stones of the Choshen on which were the names of the tribes.

Relationship between 28:29 and 28:30
Why are they not described? Since the Urim and Tummin are identical with the stones of the Choshen,
Why are the Urim and Tumim not mentioned in Shemot 39?
Why are they called Urim and Tumim?
  • Rav Shrira Gaon explains that although they are the same as the Choshen stones they were given a special name as a sign of praise.
  • Lekach Tov
"וְנָתַתָּ אֶל חֹשֶׁן הַמִּשְׁפָּט אֶת הָאוּרִים וְאֶת הַתֻּמִּים"
What is the relationship between Urim and Tumim? This position would suggest that there is no difference between the Urim and Tummim. When the Urim is mentioned alone, it is simply an abbreviation.
How did the שאלה work?
Missing letters
Vayikra 8:8
בית שני

Script

What were the Urim and Tumim?
  • כתב שם המפורש - Rashi explains that in between כפלי החושן they put כתב שם המפורש which shined and showed the right answers.
  • Alphabet letters - Shadal explains that there were small pieces of wood or metal that had the alphabet letters on them that were put in the Choshen.
What is the relationship between Urim and Tumim?
Why are they called Urim and Tumim?
How did the שאלה work?
Relationship between 28:29 and 28:30
Why are the Urim and Tumim not mentioned in Shemot 39?
Vayikra 8:8
בית שני

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