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<p>Egyptians lived alongside the Israelites in Goshen.</p>
 
<p>Egyptians lived alongside the Israelites in Goshen.</p>
 
<mekorot><multilink><a href="LekachTovShemot1-21" data-aht="source">Lekach Tov</a><a href="LekachTovShemot1-21" data-aht="source">Shemot 1:21</a><a href="LekachTovShemot12-13" data-aht="source">Shemot 12:13</a><a href="R. Toviah b. Eliezer (Lekach Tov)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Toviah b. Eliezer</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="IbnEzraShemotLongCommentary1-7" data-aht="source">Ibn Ezra</a><a href="IbnEzraShemotLongCommentary1-7" data-aht="source">Shemot Long Commentary 1:7</a><a href="IbnEzraShemotLongCommentary2-3" data-aht="source">Shemot Long Commentary 2:3</a><a href="IbnEzraShemotLongCommentary3-22" data-aht="source">Shemot Long Commentary 3:22</a><a href="IbnEzraShemotLongCommentary12-27" data-aht="source">Shemot Long Commentary 12:27</a><a href="R. Avraham ibn Ezra" data-aht="parshan">About R. Avraham ibn Ezra</a></multilink>,&#160;<multilink><a href="RYosefibnKaspiShemot3-22" data-aht="source">R. Yosef ibn Kaspi</a><a href="RYosefibnKaspiShemot3-22" data-aht="source">Shemot 3:22</a><a href="RYosefibnKaspiShemot10-23" data-aht="source">Shemot 10:23</a><a href="R. Yosef ibn Kaspi" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yosef ibn Kaspi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RalbagBereshitBeurHaMilot46-34" data-aht="source">Ralbag</a><a href="RalbagBereshitBeurHaMilot46-34" data-aht="source">Bereshit Beur HaMilot 46:34</a><a href="RalbagShemot1-7" data-aht="source">Beur HaMilot Shemot 1:7</a><a href="RalbagShemot8-19" data-aht="source">Beur HaMilot Shemot 8:19</a><a href="RalbagShemot10-23" data-aht="source">Beur HaMilot Shemot 10:23</a><a href="R. Levi b. Gershom (Ralbag, Gersonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Levi b. Gershom</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="HaKetavVeHaKabbalahShemot10-23" data-aht="source">HaKetav VeHaKabbalah</a><a href="HaKetavVeHaKabbalahShemot10-23" data-aht="source">Shemot 10:23</a><a href="R. Yaakov Mecklenburg (HaKetav VeHaKabbalah)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yaakov Mecklenburg</a></multilink>, perhaps <multilink><a href="RSRHirschShemot1-7" data-aht="source">R. S"R Hirsch</a><a href="RSRHirschShemot1-7" data-aht="source">Shemot 1:7</a><a href="R. Samson Raphael Hirsch" data-aht="parshan">About R. Samson Raphael Hirsch</a></multilink>,<fn>Though he is not explicit, several of his comments suggest that he takes this approach.</fn> <multilink><a href="RDavidZviHoffmannShemot3-21fn123" data-aht="source">R. David Zvi Hoffmann #2</a><a href="RDavidZviHoffmannShemot1-7" data-aht="source">Shemot 1:7</a><a href="RDavidZviHoffmannShemot3-21fn123" data-aht="source">Shemot 3:21, fn. 123</a><a href="RDavidZviHoffmannShemot10-23" data-aht="source">Shemot 10:23</a><a href="RDavidZviHoffmannShemot11-2" data-aht="source">Shemot 11:2</a><a href="R. David Zvi Hoffmann" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Zvi Hoffmann</a></multilink><fn>See above that he also raises the possibility that the nation was totally segregated from the Egyptians.&#160;</fn></mekorot>
 
<mekorot><multilink><a href="LekachTovShemot1-21" data-aht="source">Lekach Tov</a><a href="LekachTovShemot1-21" data-aht="source">Shemot 1:21</a><a href="LekachTovShemot12-13" data-aht="source">Shemot 12:13</a><a href="R. Toviah b. Eliezer (Lekach Tov)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Toviah b. Eliezer</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="IbnEzraShemotLongCommentary1-7" data-aht="source">Ibn Ezra</a><a href="IbnEzraShemotLongCommentary1-7" data-aht="source">Shemot Long Commentary 1:7</a><a href="IbnEzraShemotLongCommentary2-3" data-aht="source">Shemot Long Commentary 2:3</a><a href="IbnEzraShemotLongCommentary3-22" data-aht="source">Shemot Long Commentary 3:22</a><a href="IbnEzraShemotLongCommentary12-27" data-aht="source">Shemot Long Commentary 12:27</a><a href="R. Avraham ibn Ezra" data-aht="parshan">About R. Avraham ibn Ezra</a></multilink>,&#160;<multilink><a href="RYosefibnKaspiShemot3-22" data-aht="source">R. Yosef ibn Kaspi</a><a href="RYosefibnKaspiShemot3-22" data-aht="source">Shemot 3:22</a><a href="RYosefibnKaspiShemot10-23" data-aht="source">Shemot 10:23</a><a href="R. Yosef ibn Kaspi" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yosef ibn Kaspi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RalbagBereshitBeurHaMilot46-34" data-aht="source">Ralbag</a><a href="RalbagBereshitBeurHaMilot46-34" data-aht="source">Bereshit Beur HaMilot 46:34</a><a href="RalbagShemot1-7" data-aht="source">Beur HaMilot Shemot 1:7</a><a href="RalbagShemot8-19" data-aht="source">Beur HaMilot Shemot 8:19</a><a href="RalbagShemot10-23" data-aht="source">Beur HaMilot Shemot 10:23</a><a href="R. Levi b. Gershom (Ralbag, Gersonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Levi b. Gershom</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="HaKetavVeHaKabbalahShemot10-23" data-aht="source">HaKetav VeHaKabbalah</a><a href="HaKetavVeHaKabbalahShemot10-23" data-aht="source">Shemot 10:23</a><a href="R. Yaakov Mecklenburg (HaKetav VeHaKabbalah)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yaakov Mecklenburg</a></multilink>, perhaps <multilink><a href="RSRHirschShemot1-7" data-aht="source">R. S"R Hirsch</a><a href="RSRHirschShemot1-7" data-aht="source">Shemot 1:7</a><a href="R. Samson Raphael Hirsch" data-aht="parshan">About R. Samson Raphael Hirsch</a></multilink>,<fn>Though he is not explicit, several of his comments suggest that he takes this approach.</fn> <multilink><a href="RDavidZviHoffmannShemot3-21fn123" data-aht="source">R. David Zvi Hoffmann #2</a><a href="RDavidZviHoffmannShemot1-7" data-aht="source">Shemot 1:7</a><a href="RDavidZviHoffmannShemot3-21fn123" data-aht="source">Shemot 3:21, fn. 123</a><a href="RDavidZviHoffmannShemot10-23" data-aht="source">Shemot 10:23</a><a href="RDavidZviHoffmannShemot11-2" data-aht="source">Shemot 11:2</a><a href="R. David Zvi Hoffmann" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Zvi Hoffmann</a></multilink><fn>See above that he also raises the possibility that the nation was totally segregated from the Egyptians.&#160;</fn></mekorot>
<point><b>Original Settlement in Goshen</b> – According to Ralbag, the Israelites initially settled in Goshen both because of its rich grazing lands and because it was mostly uninhabited by Egyptians.&#160; This allowed the nation to remain united and not easily hurt by anti-Semitic acts or influenced by Egyptian culture and beliefs.<fn>See also R. Hirsch who simlalrly highlights the Israelite need to distance themselves form the Egyptians whose occupation and spirit were both radically different from that of Israel.</fn></point>
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<point><b>Original Settlement in Goshen</b> – According to Ralbag, the Israelites initially settled in Goshen both because of its rich grazing lands and because it was mostly uninhabited by Egyptians.&#160; This allowed the nation to remain united and protected from both anti-Semitic acts and the detrimental influence of Egyptian culture and beliefs.<fn>See also R. Hirsch who simlalrly highlights the Israelite need to distance themselves form the Egyptians whose occupation and spirit were both radically different from that of Israel.</fn></point>
 
<point><b>"וַתִּמָּלֵא הָאָרֶץ אֹתָם"</b> – These sources maintain that the land spoken of in this verse is Goshen rather than Egypt.&#160; As they multiplied, the nation filled the entire region.</point>
 
<point><b>"וַתִּמָּלֵא הָאָרֶץ אֹתָם"</b> – These sources maintain that the land spoken of in this verse is Goshen rather than Egypt.&#160; As they multiplied, the nation filled the entire region.</point>
 
<point><b>Egyptians in Goshen</b><ul>
 
<point><b>Egyptians in Goshen</b><ul>
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<li><b>Arrived later</b> – According to Lekach Tov, in the aftermath of Paroh's decree to kill male babies, he relocated Egyptians to houses amidst the Israelite population to spy and enforce the law.<fn>This is how Lekach Tov understands the phrase, "וַיַּעַשׂ לָהֶם בָּתִּים".&#160; For details, see <a href="ויעש להם בתים" data-aht="page">ויעש להם בתים</a>.&#160; Cf. R. D"Z Hoffmann who also suggests that even if the Children of Isarel were mainly segregated from Egyptians, of necessity, there would have been some Egyptian administrators dispersed among them.</fn> Alternatively, at some point Egyptians on their own moved into Goshen.</li>
 
<li><b>Arrived later</b> – According to Lekach Tov, in the aftermath of Paroh's decree to kill male babies, he relocated Egyptians to houses amidst the Israelite population to spy and enforce the law.<fn>This is how Lekach Tov understands the phrase, "וַיַּעַשׂ לָהֶם בָּתִּים".&#160; For details, see <a href="ויעש להם בתים" data-aht="page">ויעש להם בתים</a>.&#160; Cf. R. D"Z Hoffmann who also suggests that even if the Children of Isarel were mainly segregated from Egyptians, of necessity, there would have been some Egyptian administrators dispersed among them.</fn> Alternatively, at some point Egyptians on their own moved into Goshen.</li>
 
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<point><b>Borrowing from Egyptian neighbors</b> – Ibn Ezra, Ralbag and R. D"Z Hoffmann point to this as evidence that Egyptians must have lived near the Israelites.&#160; Ibn Ezra and Ibn Kaspi add that the term "וּמִגָּרַת בֵּיתָהּ" proves that in some cases the Egyptians had even moved into the Israelite homes.&#160; This is more likely in Goshen, where the Israelites had a stronghold (אחוזה)&#8206;<fn>See Bereshit 47:27, "וַיֵּשֶׁב יִשְׂרָאֵל בְּאֶרֶץ מִצְרַיִם בְּאֶרֶץ גֹּשֶׁן וַיֵּאָחֲזוּ בָהּ".</fn> and owned the houses, rather than in Egypt proper where they likely could have moved in with other Egyptians or buy their own dwelling.</point>
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<point><b>Borrowing from Egyptian neighbors</b> – Ibn Ezra, Ralbag and R. D"Z Hoffmann point to this as evidence that Egyptians must have lived near the Israelites.&#160; Ibn Ezra and Ibn Kaspi add that the term "וּמִגָּרַת בֵּיתָהּ" proves that in some cases the Egyptians had even moved into the Israelite homes.&#160; This is more likely in Goshen, where the Israelites had a stronghold (אחוזה)&#8206;<fn>See Bereshit 47:27, "וַיֵּשֶׁב יִשְׂרָאֵל בְּאֶרֶץ מִצְרַיִם בְּאֶרֶץ גֹּשֶׁן וַיֵּאָחֲזוּ בָהּ".</fn> and owned the houses, than in Egypt proper where they likely could have moved in with other Egyptians or bought their own dwelling.</point>
 
<point><b>Hiding Moshe</b> – Ibn Ezra suggests that it is likely Yocheved could no longer keep Moshe in the house because the neighbors in Goshen heard him cry.</point>
 
<point><b>Hiding Moshe</b> – Ibn Ezra suggests that it is likely Yocheved could no longer keep Moshe in the house because the neighbors in Goshen heard him cry.</point>
<point><b>Skipping over doorposts</b> – This too could support</point>
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<point><b>Skipping over doorposts</b> – Ibn Ezra points to this, too, as evidence that Egyptian homes bordered on those of the Israelites.<fn>The verse alone, however, can not be used to prove that this integration was in Goshen rather than in Egypt at large.</fn>&#160; These sources could suggest that the preface, "וְעָבַרְתִּי בְאֶרֶץ מִצְרַיִם" does not limit the killing and passing over to Egypt proper, but is rather a general term (including Goshen) for all the places where Hashem struck.</point>
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<point><b>"רַק בְּאֶרֶץ גֹּשֶׁן אֲשֶׁר שָׁם בְּנֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל"</b> – This verse supports the position that Goshen was the abode of the Israelites.</point>
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<point><b>Separation during the Plagues</b> – This approach is further supported by verses which speak of a differentiation between Goshen and Egypt.</point>
 
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Version as of 14:21, 31 December 2015

Where in Egypt Did the Israelites Live?

Exegetical Approaches

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Throughout Egypt

The Israelites were not confined to Goshen and settled throughout Egypt.

Original settlement in Goshen
  • According to R"E Ashkenazi, Malbim, and Netziv the Israelites originally settled in Goshen so as to prevent assimilation and preserve their national identity.  Since the region was isolated from the Egyptians, it was easy to avoid mingling with Egyptians and being influenced by their idolatrous ways.  However, this original plan did not last.
  • Alternatively, this position could suggest that the nation settled in Goshen for more practical reasons, either due to the economic benefits of Goshen's grazing land, or its proximity to Yosef.  With the passage of time, though, both of these advantages might have become irrelevant.  See Why Live in Goshen? for more.
"וַתִּמָּלֵא הָאָרֶץ אֹתָם"
  • Egyptian cities – Most of these sources understand the word "הָאָרֶץ" to refer to Egypt as a whole and maintain that this verse describes the spread of the Israelites out of Goshen into other Egyptian cities. 
  • Fields – Maasei Hashem, in contrast, does not think that the term refers to Egypt proper, but rather more literally to fields.2  The nation multiplied, and without sufficient housing, sprawled out to live in the fields surrounding Goshen and on the Nile.
Why move out? These sources offer several possible reasons for the people's moving out of Goshen:
  • Proliferation – Malbim and R"E Ashkenazi assume that, due to the nation's great proliferation, Goshen could no longer contain them.  According to R"E Asheknazi, however, they did not on their own buy houses amidst the Egyptians.  It was Paroh who built urban housing for them so that the midwives would arrive in time for the delivery of their babies, enabling his plan of genocide.3  For more, see ויעש להם בתים.
  • Desire for integration – Netziv asserts, in contrast, that the move was voluntary and related to the Israelites' desire to mingle with Egyptian society.  They disregarded Yaakov's wish that they be "a nation that lives alone" and preferred to acculturate.
  • Goshen lost its advantages – Alternatively if the original settlement was motivated by the presence of Yosef nearby, when he died, the location was no longer particularly desirable. Similarly, with the passage of time it is possible that the Israelites broadened their occupations beyond shepherding, and no longer looked only for good grazing land.
Assimilation of Israelites – Netziv emphasizes how the move promoted the assimilation of the nation, leading them to worship idolatry like their neighbors and forego circumcision.  This, he claims, was one of the causes of the enslavement.4  For elaboration, see both Religious Identity in Egypt and Purposes of the Egyptian Bondage.
Borrowing from Egyptian neighbors – R. Ashkenazi points to this as evidence that the nation lived in Egypt proper.  He claims that the neighbors cannot refer to Egyptians living in Goshen since the region was too small to house a significant enough number of them5 so as to enable the enrichment of the Israelites.6  Moreover, the phrase "וַיְנַצְּלוּ אֶת מִצְרָיִם" suggests that the Israelites exploited those in Egypt itself.
Skipping over doorposts – R. Ashkenazi points out that the need to "skip" over Israelite homes only makes sense if they were spread out among the Egyptian dwellings.  Since Hashem says אֲנִי יוֹצֵא" בְּתוֹךְ מִצְרָיִם", it sounds like both groups were in Egypt proper and not Goshen.
"רַק בְּאֶרֶץ גֹּשֶׁן אֲשֶׁר שָׁם בְּנֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל" – This verse and the similar one in Shemot 8:18 would seem to suggest that Goshen, rather than Egypt at large, was where the Israelites lived.  This position could explain that the verses simply emphasize that it was an Israelite rather than Egyptian neighborhood,7 or that it was where the majority (but not all) of the Israelite nation lived.
Separation during the Plagues – By the plagues of ערוב  and ברד, the verses state that Hashem separated between the regions of Egypt and Goshen, suggesting that one was home to the Egyptians and one to the Israelites.
  • Philo asserts that in reality the plagues differentiated based on ethnicity rather than geography, and would likely explain that these verses are simply generalizing according to the majority in each place.8
  • Alternatively there really was only a geographic distinction in these plagues, and those Israelites living outside Goshen suffered along with the Egyptians. If it was this part of the nation that had assimilated, maybe they needed to learn the lessons of the plagues firsthand just like their neighbors.9
Slaves to individuals or the State
Shtetel or Ghetto

Only in Goshen

The Nation of Israel lived in the region of Goshen and never spread throughout the rest of the country.  This position subdivides regarding whether or not any Egyptians lived in Goshen with them:

Segregated from Egyptians

Goshen was reserved for the Israelites and no Egyptians dwelt  there.

shtetl or ghetto

Integrated with Egyptians

Egyptians lived alongside the Israelites in Goshen.

Original Settlement in Goshen – According to Ralbag, the Israelites initially settled in Goshen both because of its rich grazing lands and because it was mostly uninhabited by Egyptians.  This allowed the nation to remain united and protected from both anti-Semitic acts and the detrimental influence of Egyptian culture and beliefs.12
"וַתִּמָּלֵא הָאָרֶץ אֹתָם" – These sources maintain that the land spoken of in this verse is Goshen rather than Egypt.  As they multiplied, the nation filled the entire region.
Egyptians in Goshen
  • Always a presence – According to R. D"Z Hoffmann, when Yosef settled the nation in Goshen, he had not emptied it of its original inhabitants and from the very beginning some Egyptians lived alongside the Israelites.13
  • Arrived later – According to Lekach Tov, in the aftermath of Paroh's decree to kill male babies, he relocated Egyptians to houses amidst the Israelite population to spy and enforce the law.14 Alternatively, at some point Egyptians on their own moved into Goshen.
Borrowing from Egyptian neighbors – Ibn Ezra, Ralbag and R. D"Z Hoffmann point to this as evidence that Egyptians must have lived near the Israelites.  Ibn Ezra and Ibn Kaspi add that the term "וּמִגָּרַת בֵּיתָהּ" proves that in some cases the Egyptians had even moved into the Israelite homes.  This is more likely in Goshen, where the Israelites had a stronghold (אחוזה)‎15 and owned the houses, than in Egypt proper where they likely could have moved in with other Egyptians or bought their own dwelling.
Hiding Moshe – Ibn Ezra suggests that it is likely Yocheved could no longer keep Moshe in the house because the neighbors in Goshen heard him cry.
Skipping over doorposts – Ibn Ezra points to this, too, as evidence that Egyptian homes bordered on those of the Israelites.16  These sources could suggest that the preface, "וְעָבַרְתִּי בְאֶרֶץ מִצְרַיִם" does not limit the killing and passing over to Egypt proper, but is rather a general term (including Goshen) for all the places where Hashem struck.
"רַק בְּאֶרֶץ גֹּשֶׁן אֲשֶׁר שָׁם בְּנֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל" – This verse supports the position that Goshen was the abode of the Israelites.
Separation during the Plagues – This approach is further supported by verses which speak of a differentiation between Goshen and Egypt.