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(Original Author: Ariella Novetsky, Rabbi Hillel Novetsky)
(Original Author: Ariella Novetsky, Rabbi Hillel Novetsky)
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<topic>Relationship of Shemot 18 and Bemidbar 10:29-33:
 
<topic>Relationship of Shemot 18 and Bemidbar 10:29-33:
<p><a href="$">How many times</a> did Yitro come?  Is the last verse of Shemot 18 in its chronological place?  Did Yitro <a href="$">ultimately remain</a> with the Jewish people?</p>
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<p><a href="$">How many times</a> did Yitro come?  Is the last verse of Shemot 18 in its chronological place?  Did Yitro <a href="$">ultimately remain</a> with the Children of Israel?</p>
 
<opinion>Yitro = Chovav:
 
<opinion>Yitro = Chovav:
 
<opinion>Yitro came twice:
 
<opinion>Yitro came twice:
<opinion>Yitro came in the first year and left in the second year (Shemot 18 = Bemidbar 10), but then returned again (as his descendants are with the Jewish people in Shofetim 1) – R"E HaModai in Mekhilta DeRabbi Yishmael Yitro Amalek 2 according to Ramban,<fn>Ramban Shemot 18:1 cites the Mekhilta as asking rhetorically:  "יכול שהלך ולא חזר".  All other extant versions and manuscripts, though, read only "יכול שהלך ולא עשה".  This leaves open the possibility that Yitro himself never returned but rather remained in Midyan to spread belief in God, and that only his descendants joined the Jewish people.</fn> Akeidat Yitzchak.<fn>See Akeidat Yitzchak Bemidbar 72.</fn></opinion>
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<opinion>Yitro came in the first year and left in the second year (Shemot 18 = Bemidbar 10), but then returned again (as his descendants are with the Children of Israel in Shofetim 1) – R"E HaModai in Mekhilta DeRabbi Yishmael Yitro Amalek 2 according to Ramban,<fn>Ramban Shemot 18:1 cites the Mekhilta as asking rhetorically:  "יכול שהלך ולא חזר".  All other extant versions and manuscripts, though, read only "יכול שהלך ולא עשה".  This leaves open the possibility that Yitro himself never returned but rather remained in Midyan to spread belief in God, and that only his descendants joined the Children of Israel.</fn> Akeidat Yitzchak.<fn>See Akeidat Yitzchak Bemidbar 72.</fn></opinion>
<opinion>Yitro came in the first year (Shemot 18), departed before the Decalogue, returned in the second year (Bemidbar 10), and then remained with the Jewish people – Ramban, Peirush HaRosh.</opinion>
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<opinion>Yitro came in the first year (Shemot 18), departed before the Decalogue, returned in the second year (Bemidbar 10), and then remained with the Children of Israel – Ramban, Peirush HaRosh.</opinion>
 
<opinion>Yitro came in the first year (Shemot 18) and again in the second year (Bemidbar 10) and returned to Midyan on both occasions.</opinion>
 
<opinion>Yitro came in the first year (Shemot 18) and again in the second year (Bemidbar 10) and returned to Midyan on both occasions.</opinion>
 
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<topic><a href="Yitro – Religious Identity" data-aht="page">Did Yitro convert</a>?
 
<topic><a href="Yitro – Religious Identity" data-aht="page">Did Yitro convert</a>?
<opinion>Yes – Mekhilta DeRabbi Yishmael Yitro Amalek 1, Bavli Zevachim 116a,<fn>This is explicit in the printed editions of the Bavli which read 'and he converted' (ונתגייר).  However, most manuscripts (as well as the Sheiltot #166) do not contain that word.</fn> Targum Pseudo-Jonathan Shemot 18:6-7, Ramban.  If Yitro converted, it is likely that he would have chosen to remain with the Jewish people.  Thus, R"E HaModai in Mekhilta DeRabbi Yishmael Yitro Amalek 2 and Ramban assume that Yitro converted, went back and forth, and ultimately stayed on with the nation.</opinion>
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<opinion>Yes – Mekhilta DeRabbi Yishmael Yitro Amalek 1, Bavli Zevachim 116a,<fn>This is explicit in the printed editions of the Bavli which read 'and he converted' (ונתגייר).  However, most manuscripts (as well as the Sheiltot #166) do not contain that word.</fn> Targum Pseudo-Jonathan Shemot 18:6-7, Ramban.  If Yitro converted, it is likely that he would have chosen to remain with the Children of Israel.  Thus, R"E HaModai in Mekhilta DeRabbi Yishmael Yitro Amalek 2 and Ramban assume that Yitro converted, went back and forth, and ultimately stayed on with the nation.</opinion>
 
<opinion>No – Shadal and Cassuto posit that he did not convert, came only once, and left.</opinion>
 
<opinion>No – Shadal and Cassuto posit that he did not convert, came only once, and left.</opinion>
 
<opinion>See <a href="Yitro – Religious Identity" data-aht="page">here</a> for a discussion of Yitro's religious beliefs during the various stages of his life.</opinion>
 
<opinion>See <a href="Yitro – Religious Identity" data-aht="page">here</a> for a discussion of Yitro's religious beliefs during the various stages of his life.</opinion>

Version as of 12:51, 25 January 2015

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