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<category>Chronological Order
 
<category>Chronological Order
 
<mekorot><multilink><a href="BavliYevamot76b" data-aht="source">Bavli Yevamot</a><a href="BavliYevamot76b" data-aht="source">Yevamot 76b</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RShemuelbChofniGaonBereshit48-8" data-aht="source">R. Shemuel b. Chofni Gaon</a><a href="RShemuelbChofniGaonBereshit48-8" data-aht="source">Bereshit 48:8</a><a href="R. Shemuel b. Chofni Gaon" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shemuel b. Chofni Gaon</a></multilink> #2, <multilink><a href="RashiShemuelI17-15" data-aht="source">Rashi</a><a href="RashiShemuelI17-15" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 17:15</a><a href="RashiShemuelI17-55" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 17:55</a><a href="R. Shelomo Yitzchaki (Rashi)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shelomo Yitzchaki</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RadakShemuelI17-12" data-aht="source">Radak</a><a href="RadakShemuelI17-12" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 17:12</a><a href="RadakShemuelI17-55" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 17:55</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Kimchi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RalbagShemuelI17-55" data-aht="source">Ralbag</a><a href="RalbagShemuelI17-55" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 17:55</a><a href="R. Levi b. Gershom (Ralbag, Gersonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Levi b. Gershom</a></multilink></mekorot>
 
<mekorot><multilink><a href="BavliYevamot76b" data-aht="source">Bavli Yevamot</a><a href="BavliYevamot76b" data-aht="source">Yevamot 76b</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RShemuelbChofniGaonBereshit48-8" data-aht="source">R. Shemuel b. Chofni Gaon</a><a href="RShemuelbChofniGaonBereshit48-8" data-aht="source">Bereshit 48:8</a><a href="R. Shemuel b. Chofni Gaon" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shemuel b. Chofni Gaon</a></multilink> #2, <multilink><a href="RashiShemuelI17-15" data-aht="source">Rashi</a><a href="RashiShemuelI17-15" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 17:15</a><a href="RashiShemuelI17-55" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 17:55</a><a href="R. Shelomo Yitzchaki (Rashi)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shelomo Yitzchaki</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RadakShemuelI17-12" data-aht="source">Radak</a><a href="RadakShemuelI17-12" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 17:12</a><a href="RadakShemuelI17-55" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 17:55</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Kimchi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RalbagShemuelI17-55" data-aht="source">Ralbag</a><a href="RalbagShemuelI17-55" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 17:55</a><a href="R. Levi b. Gershom (Ralbag, Gersonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Levi b. Gershom</a></multilink></mekorot>
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<point><b>How did Shaul not recognize David?</b> These commentators differ regarding how they explain Shaul asking David who he is:<br/>
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<point><b>How did Shaul not recognize David?</b> These commentators offer several possibilities:<br/>
 
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<li><b>Shaul did not recognize David –</b> Ralbag says that Shaul had a lot of servants so he really did not remember David.</li>
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<li><b>Too busy –</b> Ralbag and Ibn Kaspi assert that since Shaul had so many different concerns in the kingdom, he did not remember the names and details of all of his servants.</li>
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<li><b>Shaul was asking a different question –</b> Bavli Yevamot explains that Shaul was not asking for David's name rather about his ייחוס.</li>
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<li><b>Shaul was asking a different question –</b> Bavli Yevamot explains that Shaul was not asking for David's name but rather his lineage, to ascertain his worthiness to rule.</li>
 
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<point><b>How was David in Beit Lechem?</b></point>
 
<point><b>How was David in Beit Lechem?</b></point>

Version as of 02:39, 9 November 2016

Chronology of Shemuel I 16 – 17

Exegetical Approaches

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Chronological Order

Sources:Bavli YevamotYevamot 76bAbout the Bavli, R. Shemuel b. Chofni GaonBereshit 48:8About R. Shemuel b. Chofni Gaon #2, RashiShemuel I 17:15Shemuel I 17:55About R. Shelomo Yitzchaki, RadakShemuel I 17:12Shemuel I 17:55About R. David Kimchi, RalbagShemuel I 17:55About R. Levi b. Gershom
How did Shaul not recognize David? These commentators offer several possibilities:
  • Too busy – Ralbag and Ibn Kaspi assert that since Shaul had so many different concerns in the kingdom, he did not remember the names and details of all of his servants.
  • Shaul was asking a different question – Bavli Yevamot explains that Shaul was not asking for David's name but rather his lineage, to ascertain his worthiness to rule.
How was David in Beit Lechem?
17:33 – "כִּי נַעַר אַתָּה וְהוּא אִישׁ מִלְחָמָה מִנְּעֻרָיו"
Doubling of list of Yishai's sons
Eliav's attitude to David
אין מוקדם ומאוחר
David's rise to power
18:2 – When is "בַּיּוֹם הַהוּא"?

Achronological Order

Sources:R. Shemuel b. Chofni GaonBereshit 48:8About R. Shemuel b. Chofni Gaon #1
How did Shaul not recognize David?
How was David in Beit Lechem?
17:33 – "כִּי נַעַר אַתָּה וְהוּא אִישׁ מִלְחָמָה מִנְּעֻרָיו"
Doubling of list of Yishai's sons
Eliav's attitude to David
אין מוקדם ומאוחר

Overlapping stories

How did Shaul not recognize David?
How was David in Beit Lechem?
17:33 – "כִּי נַעַר אַתָּה וְהוּא אִישׁ מִלְחָמָה מִנְּעֻרָיו"
Doubling of list of Yishai's sons
Eliav's attitude to David
אין מוקדם ומאוחר
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