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<p>The people's desire for a king "to judge us" was problematic either because it usurped the institution of judges as a whole, or because it was a personal affront to Shemuel specifically.</p> | <p>The people's desire for a king "to judge us" was problematic either because it usurped the institution of judges as a whole, or because it was a personal affront to Shemuel specifically.</p> | ||
<opinion>Insult to Shemuel | <opinion>Insult to Shemuel | ||
+ | <p>Though the institution of monarchy in and of itself is fine, asking for a king to serve as a judge when Shemuel was still judging the nation was an insult to his honor.</p> | ||
<mekorot> | <mekorot> | ||
<multilink><a href="RambamHilkhotMelakhim1-2" data-aht="source">Rambam</a><a href="RambamHilkhotMelakhim1-2" data-aht="source">Hilkhot Melakhim 1:2</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Maimon (Rambam, Maimonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe b. Maimon</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RambanBeresehit49-10" data-aht="source">Ramban</a><a href="RambanBeresehit49-10" data-aht="source">Beresehit 49:10</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Nachman (Ramban, Nachmanides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe b. Nachman</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RYosefibnKaspiShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">R. Yosef ibn Kaspi</a><a href="RYosefibnKaspiShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:6</a><a href="R. Yosef ibn Kaspi" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yosef ibn Kaspi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="Ran11" data-aht="source">Ran</a><a href="Ran11" data-aht="source">Derashot HaRan 11</a><a href="R. Nissim Gerondi (Ran)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Nissim Gerondi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="MalbimShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Malbim #2</a><a href="MalbimShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:6</a><a href="R. Meir Leibush Weiser (Malbim)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Meir Leibush Weiser</a></multilink>, Hoil Moshe | <multilink><a href="RambamHilkhotMelakhim1-2" data-aht="source">Rambam</a><a href="RambamHilkhotMelakhim1-2" data-aht="source">Hilkhot Melakhim 1:2</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Maimon (Rambam, Maimonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe b. Maimon</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RambanBeresehit49-10" data-aht="source">Ramban</a><a href="RambanBeresehit49-10" data-aht="source">Beresehit 49:10</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Nachman (Ramban, Nachmanides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe b. Nachman</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RYosefibnKaspiShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">R. Yosef ibn Kaspi</a><a href="RYosefibnKaspiShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:6</a><a href="R. Yosef ibn Kaspi" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yosef ibn Kaspi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="Ran11" data-aht="source">Ran</a><a href="Ran11" data-aht="source">Derashot HaRan 11</a><a href="R. Nissim Gerondi (Ran)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Nissim Gerondi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="MalbimShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Malbim #2</a><a href="MalbimShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:6</a><a href="R. Meir Leibush Weiser (Malbim)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Meir Leibush Weiser</a></multilink>, Hoil Moshe | ||
</mekorot> | </mekorot> | ||
− | <point><b>"לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ"</b> – These sources all pick up on the nation's request "שִׂימָה לָּנוּ מֶלֶךְ <b>לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ</b>", claiming that Shemuel is upset specifically by the people's request  for a king who "will judge us."<fn>The | + | <point><b>"לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ"</b> – These sources all pick up on the nation's request "שִׂימָה לָּנוּ מֶלֶךְ <b>לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ</b>", claiming that Shemuel is upset specifically by the people's request  for a king who "will judge us."<fn>The Malbim points out that had they asked for a king without elaboration or for a military leader, that would not have been problematic.</fn></point> |
− | <point><b>Shemuel's sons</b> – The fact that the people preface their request for a king with their complaints about Shemuel's sons not following in their father's way | + | <point><b>Shemuel's sons</b> – The fact that the people preface their request for a king with their complaints about Shemuel's sons not following in their father's way,<fn>The Rambam asserts that had they, in contrast, requested  a king so as to fulfill the commandment, that would have been commendable.</fn> supports the idea that their main desire in a king was to find a replacement for Shemuel in his capacity as judge.<fn>Hoil Moshe points to an inconsistency  in the nation's request which proves that their motives were not pure.  The people complain about Shemuel's sons not following in his ways, but nonetheless ask specifically for a dynastic ruler where the same issue of an unfit son inheriting the position is likely!  This proved to Shemuel that the people were simply looking to reject him and his family.</fn></point> |
− | + | <point><b>Shemuel's speech in chapter 12</b> – The first half of Shemuel's speech is devoted to Shemuel's insistence that he was always honest in his dealings with the nation.  This focus supports the idea that Shemuel had felt that the people doubted his abilities and functioning as a shofet.</point> | |
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<point><b>"כְּכָל הַגּוֹיִם"</b> – These sources see nothing wrong in the desire "to be like the nations". After all, in Devarim when Hashem speaks of appointing a king, He Himself says that the people will request a king "like all the nations".  Moreover, if this was problematic either Shemuel or Hashem should have emphasized that aspect of the request in their speech.</point> | <point><b>"כְּכָל הַגּוֹיִם"</b> – These sources see nothing wrong in the desire "to be like the nations". After all, in Devarim when Hashem speaks of appointing a king, He Himself says that the people will request a king "like all the nations".  Moreover, if this was problematic either Shemuel or Hashem should have emphasized that aspect of the request in their speech.</point> | ||
− | <point><b>Hashem's response: "כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ"</b> – Hashem's response to Shemuel "כִּי לֹא אֹתְךָ מָאָסוּ כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ" would seem to go against | + | <point><b>Hashem's response: "כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ"</b> – Hashem's response to Shemuel "כִּי לֹא אֹתְךָ מָאָסוּ כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ" would seem to go against this position as it suggests that Hashem does not see in the nation's request an affront to Shemuel.  The Hoil Moshe explains that Hashem isn't denying the insult, but comforting Shemuel by telling him that the people treat Hashem the same way, constantly turning away from Him and choosing idols in His place.  Thus, Shemuel should not take it unduly to heart:  "דיו לעבד שיהיה כרבו".  Hoil Moshe further proves that Hashem isn't trying to say that Shemuel was not dishonored from His final words, "כֵּן הֵמָּה עֹשִׂים <b>גַּם לָךְ</b>".</point> |
− | + | <point><b>Positive mentions of monarchy</b> – The fact that monarchy is viewed positively in Torah and the Book of Judges is not problematic for this position as these sources agree that the monarchy is a desired institution.  In Sefer Shemuel, the anger at the nation comes not from the content of the people's request but in the manner in which they ask it.,</point> | |
− | + | <point><b>Granting a king</b> – Hashem granted the request since there was really nothing wrong with asking for a monarch.  The people's sin was only an interpersonal one.</point> | |
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<point><b>Shemuel and Shaul</b></point> | <point><b>Shemuel and Shaul</b></point> | ||
</opinion> | </opinion> | ||
− | <opinion> | + | <opinion>Usurping the Role of Judges |
− | < | + | <p>The nation's request was problematic because they wanted a king to fulfill the role that should have been assigned to judges.</p> |
+ | <mekorot> | ||
+ | <multilink><a href="RYosefibnKaspiShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">R. Yosef ibn Kaspi</a><a href="RYosefibnKaspiShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:6</a><a href="R. Yosef ibn Kaspi" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yosef ibn Kaspi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="Ran11" data-aht="source">Ran</a><a href="Ran11" data-aht="source">Derashot HaRan 11</a><a href="R. Nissim Gerondi (Ran)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Nissim Gerondi</a></multilink> | ||
</mekorot> | </mekorot> | ||
− | <point><b>"לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ"</b> – | + | <point><b>"לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ"</b> – As above, these sources point out that Shemuel focuses specifically on the nation's request "שִׂימָה לָּנוּ מֶלֶךְ <b>לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ</b>", proving that what he finds problematic is the desire for a king who "will judge us."<fn><sup id="reffn9" class="fnRef mceNonEditable"><a class="ahtNonEditable" href="#fn9">9</a></sup></fn></point> |
<point><b>Shemuel's sons</b> – The fact that the people preface their request for a king with their complaints about Shemuel's sons not following in their father's way, supports the idea that their main desire in a king was to find a replacement for Shemuel in his capacity as judge.</point> | <point><b>Shemuel's sons</b> – The fact that the people preface their request for a king with their complaints about Shemuel's sons not following in their father's way, supports the idea that their main desire in a king was to find a replacement for Shemuel in his capacity as judge.</point> | ||
− | <point><b>What is wrong with | + | <point><b>What is wrong with a king who judges?</b> The Ran explains that a king's tasks are political and military, while the judge's job is spiritual and necessitates having a Divine spark (ענין אלהי) which the monarch might be lacking.  As such, the two positions were meant to remain distinct.<fn><sup id="reffn12" class="fnRef mceNonEditable"><a class="ahtNonEditable" href="#fn12">12</a></sup></fn></point> |
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<point><b>"כְּכָל הַגּוֹיִם"</b> – These sources see nothing wrong in the desire "to be like the nations". After all, in Devarim when Hashem speaks of appointing a king, He Himself says that the people will request a king "like all the nations".  Moreover, if this was problematic either Shemuel or Hashem should have emphasized that aspect of the request in their speech.</point> | <point><b>"כְּכָל הַגּוֹיִם"</b> – These sources see nothing wrong in the desire "to be like the nations". After all, in Devarim when Hashem speaks of appointing a king, He Himself says that the people will request a king "like all the nations".  Moreover, if this was problematic either Shemuel or Hashem should have emphasized that aspect of the request in their speech.</point> | ||
<point><b>Hashem's response: "כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ"</b> – Hashem's response to Shemuel "כִּי לֹא אֹתְךָ מָאָסוּ כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ" would seem to go against most of these sources<fn><sup id="reffn13" class="fnRef mceNonEditable"><a class="ahtNonEditable" href="#fn13">13</a></sup></fn> as it suggests that Hashem does not see in the nation's request an affront to Shemuel.<br/> | <point><b>Hashem's response: "כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ"</b> – Hashem's response to Shemuel "כִּי לֹא אֹתְךָ מָאָסוּ כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ" would seem to go against most of these sources<fn><sup id="reffn13" class="fnRef mceNonEditable"><a class="ahtNonEditable" href="#fn13">13</a></sup></fn> as it suggests that Hashem does not see in the nation's request an affront to Shemuel.<br/> |
Version as of 12:28, 21 November 2016
Problem With the King
Exegetical Approaches
Rejection of Hashem for Human Military Leader
In requesting a human monarch to fight their wars, the people betrayed a lack of faith in and recognition of Hashem as their warrior and savior.
- Lack of trust – Radak asserts that the desire for a human warrior displays a lack of trust in Hashem to save the nation.
- Attribution of success to self – In addition, having a king makes it likely that the people will attribute all their successes to their human leader,2 as opposed to Hashem.3 This, in turn, will result in their not even turning to Hashem for aid when needed, as they replace Him with their new king.4
- Misconception as to causes of war – Prof. Elitzur adds that the request betrays the people's lack of understanding that wars and troubles come as a result of sin.5 The solution was not to find a king, but rather to repent and return to God.6
- Problematic – Radak suggests that the people should not have asked for a king "like all the other nations" since they were not like other nations. As long as they observed Hashem's laws, Hashem would fight for them. Thus unlike others, Israel really did not need a warrior-king.
- Not problematic – Prof. Elitzur, in contrast, sees nothing wrong in this formulation pointing out that it is identical to Hashem's language in Devarim. In fact, the people of Shemuel's time might simply be echoing Hashem's own words.
- It is possible that Shemuel understood the people correctly, (with "שפט" having a military connotation) and, like Hashem, was upset that the nation wanted to replace their old warrior, Hashem, with a new one.
- Alternatively, it is possible that Shemuel misunderstood the people's request, understanding "לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ" in its judicial sense. He took their request as a personal affront, as he assumed that they found him lacking.
- Prof Elitzur claims that the Torah is not against monarchy per se, only against the hopes the people put into the change of regime.8
- Alternatively, in Devarim Hashem is referring to a king whose primary role was not military in nature but judicial or spiritual. Such a monarch would not have been problematic, yet, even so, Hashem enacts laws to curb his power and remind him that he is subservient to Hashem. Otherwise there is a fear that he will become haughty and see himself as a replacement for Hashem, leading him and the nation to depend on the monarch and not God.
Rejection of the Shofet
The people's desire for a king "to judge us" was problematic either because it usurped the institution of judges as a whole, or because it was a personal affront to Shemuel specifically.
Insult to Shemuel
Though the institution of monarchy in and of itself is fine, asking for a king to serve as a judge when Shemuel was still judging the nation was an insult to his honor.
Usurping the Role of Judges
The nation's request was problematic because they wanted a king to fulfill the role that should have been assigned to judges.
- The Hoil Moshe explains that Hashem isn't denying the insult, but comforting Shemuel by telling him that the people treat Hashem the same way, constantly turning away from Him and choosing idols in His place. Thus, Shemuel should not take it unduly to heart: "דיו לעבד שיהיה כרבו". Hoil Moshe further proves that Hashem isn't trying to say that Shemuel was not dishonored from His final words, "כֵּן הֵמָּה עֹשִׂים גַּם לָךְ".
- According to the Ran, after Shemeul's rebuke, the people changed their request, this time adding that the king must play a military role: "וְיָצָא לְפָנֵינוּ וְנִלְחַם אֶת מִלְחֲמֹתֵנוּ". Though they were not willing to totally forego a judge-king, they at least made concessions due to Shemuel's rebuke, and so Hashem granted their request.
- Hoil Moshe explains that Hashem granted the request since there was really nothing wrong with asking for a monarch. The people's sin was an interpersonal one, and relate donly to the manner in whcih they made their request. The content of the request was not problematic at all.
Rejection of Torah Law
Hashem was upset by the people's request since they desired a king who would be like the other nations and not subject to the laws of Torah.
Wrong Timing
Though there is nothing inherently wrong with the institution of monarchy, in this era of miraculous providence, there was no need for a king.