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<p>The people's desire for a king "to judge us" was problematic either because it usurped the institution of judges as a whole, or because it was a personal affront to Shemuel specifically.</p> | <p>The people's desire for a king "to judge us" was problematic either because it usurped the institution of judges as a whole, or because it was a personal affront to Shemuel specifically.</p> | ||
<opinion>Insult to Shemuel | <opinion>Insult to Shemuel | ||
− | <p>Though the institution of monarchy | + | <p>Though there is nothing wrong with the institution of monarchy, asking for a king to serve as a judge when Shemuel was still judging the nation was an insult to his honor.</p> |
<mekorot> | <mekorot> | ||
<multilink><a href="RambamHilkhotMelakhim1-2" data-aht="source">Rambam</a><a href="RambamHilkhotMelakhim1-2" data-aht="source">Hilkhot Melakhim 1:2</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Maimon (Rambam, Maimonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe b. Maimon</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RambanBeresehit49-10" data-aht="source">Ramban</a><a href="RambanBeresehit49-10" data-aht="source">Beresehit 49:10</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Nachman (Ramban, Nachmanides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe b. Nachman</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RYosefibnKaspiShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">R. Yosef ibn Kaspi</a><a href="RYosefibnKaspiShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:6</a><a href="R. Yosef ibn Kaspi" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yosef ibn Kaspi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="Ran11" data-aht="source">Ran</a><a href="Ran11" data-aht="source">Derashot HaRan 11</a><a href="R. Nissim Gerondi (Ran)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Nissim Gerondi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="MalbimShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Malbim #2</a><a href="MalbimShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:6</a><a href="R. Meir Leibush Weiser (Malbim)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Meir Leibush Weiser</a></multilink>, Hoil Moshe | <multilink><a href="RambamHilkhotMelakhim1-2" data-aht="source">Rambam</a><a href="RambamHilkhotMelakhim1-2" data-aht="source">Hilkhot Melakhim 1:2</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Maimon (Rambam, Maimonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe b. Maimon</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RambanBeresehit49-10" data-aht="source">Ramban</a><a href="RambanBeresehit49-10" data-aht="source">Beresehit 49:10</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Nachman (Ramban, Nachmanides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe b. Nachman</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RYosefibnKaspiShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">R. Yosef ibn Kaspi</a><a href="RYosefibnKaspiShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:6</a><a href="R. Yosef ibn Kaspi" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yosef ibn Kaspi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="Ran11" data-aht="source">Ran</a><a href="Ran11" data-aht="source">Derashot HaRan 11</a><a href="R. Nissim Gerondi (Ran)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Nissim Gerondi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="MalbimShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Malbim #2</a><a href="MalbimShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:6</a><a href="R. Meir Leibush Weiser (Malbim)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Meir Leibush Weiser</a></multilink>, Hoil Moshe | ||
</mekorot> | </mekorot> | ||
<point><b>"לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ"</b> – These sources all pick up on the nation's request "שִׂימָה לָּנוּ מֶלֶךְ <b>לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ</b>", claiming that Shemuel is upset specifically by the people's request  for a king who "will judge us."<fn>The Malbim points out that had they asked for a king without elaboration or for a military leader, that would not have been problematic.</fn></point> | <point><b>"לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ"</b> – These sources all pick up on the nation's request "שִׂימָה לָּנוּ מֶלֶךְ <b>לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ</b>", claiming that Shemuel is upset specifically by the people's request  for a king who "will judge us."<fn>The Malbim points out that had they asked for a king without elaboration or for a military leader, that would not have been problematic.</fn></point> | ||
− | <point><b>Shemuel's sons</b> – The fact that the people preface their request for a king with their complaints about Shemuel's sons not following in their father's way,<fn>The Rambam asserts that had they, in contrast, requested  a king so as to fulfill the commandment, that would have been commendable.</fn> supports the idea that their | + | <point><b>Shemuel's sons</b> – The fact that the people preface their request for a king with their complaints about Shemuel's sons not following in their father's way,<fn>The Rambam asserts that had they, in contrast, requested  a king so as to fulfill the commandment, that would have been commendable.</fn> supports the idea that their request for a king stemmed from a desire to replace Shemuel and his family.<fn>Hoil Moshe points to an inconsistency  in the nation's request which proves that their motives were not pure.  The people complain about Shemuel's sons not following in his ways, but nonetheless ask specifically for a dynastic ruler where the same issue of an unfit son inheriting the position is likely!  This proved to Shemuel that the people were simply looking to reject him and his family.</fn></point> |
<point><b>Shemuel's speech in chapter 12</b> – The first half of Shemuel's speech is devoted to Shemuel's insistence that he was always honest in his dealings with the nation.  This focus supports the idea that Shemuel had felt that the people doubted his abilities and functioning as a shofet.</point> | <point><b>Shemuel's speech in chapter 12</b> – The first half of Shemuel's speech is devoted to Shemuel's insistence that he was always honest in his dealings with the nation.  This focus supports the idea that Shemuel had felt that the people doubted his abilities and functioning as a shofet.</point> | ||
<point><b>"כְּכָל הַגּוֹיִם"</b> – These sources see nothing wrong in the desire "to be like the nations". After all, in Devarim when Hashem speaks of appointing a king, He Himself says that the people will request a king "like all the nations".  Moreover, if this was problematic either Shemuel or Hashem should have emphasized that aspect of the request in their speech.</point> | <point><b>"כְּכָל הַגּוֹיִם"</b> – These sources see nothing wrong in the desire "to be like the nations". After all, in Devarim when Hashem speaks of appointing a king, He Himself says that the people will request a king "like all the nations".  Moreover, if this was problematic either Shemuel or Hashem should have emphasized that aspect of the request in their speech.</point> | ||
− | <point><b>Hashem's response: "כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ"</b> – Hashem's response to Shemuel "כִּי לֹא אֹתְךָ מָאָסוּ כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ" would seem to go against this position as it suggests that Hashem does not see in the nation's request an affront to Shemuel.  The Hoil Moshe explains that Hashem isn't denying the insult, but comforting Shemuel by telling him that the people treat Hashem the same way, constantly turning away from Him and choosing idols in His place.  Thus, Shemuel should not take it unduly to heart:  "דיו לעבד שיהיה כרבו".  Hoil Moshe further proves that Hashem isn't trying to | + | <point><b>Hashem's response: "כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ"</b> – Hashem's response to Shemuel "כִּי לֹא אֹתְךָ מָאָסוּ כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ" would seem to go against this position as it suggests that Hashem does not see in the nation's request an affront to Shemuel.  The Hoil Moshe explains that Hashem isn't denying the insult, but comforting Shemuel by telling him that the people treat Hashem the same way, constantly turning away from Him and choosing idols in His place.  Thus, Shemuel should not take it unduly to heart:  "דיו לעבד שיהיה כרבו".  Hoil Moshe further proves that Hashem isn't trying to dismiss Shemuel concerns from His final words, "כֵּן הֵמָּה עֹשִׂים <b>גַּם לָךְ</b>".</point> |
− | <point><b>Positive mentions of monarchy</b> – The fact that monarchy is viewed positively in Torah and the Book of Judges is not problematic for this position as these sources agree that the monarchy is a desired institution.  In Sefer Shemuel, the anger at the nation comes not from the content of the people's request but | + | <point><b>Positive mentions of monarchy</b> – The fact that monarchy is viewed positively in Torah and the Book of Judges is not problematic for this position as these sources agree that the monarchy is a desired institution.  In Sefer Shemuel, the anger at the nation comes not from the content of the people's request but from the manner in which they ask it.</point> |
<point><b>Granting a king</b> – Hashem granted the request since there was really nothing wrong with asking for a monarch.  The people's sin was only an interpersonal one.</point> | <point><b>Granting a king</b> – Hashem granted the request since there was really nothing wrong with asking for a monarch.  The people's sin was only an interpersonal one.</point> | ||
<point><b>Shemuel and Shaul</b></point> | <point><b>Shemuel and Shaul</b></point> | ||
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<multilink><a href="RYosefibnKaspiShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">R. Yosef ibn Kaspi</a><a href="RYosefibnKaspiShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:6</a><a href="R. Yosef ibn Kaspi" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yosef ibn Kaspi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="Ran11" data-aht="source">Ran</a><a href="Ran11" data-aht="source">Derashot HaRan 11</a><a href="R. Nissim Gerondi (Ran)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Nissim Gerondi</a></multilink> | <multilink><a href="RYosefibnKaspiShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">R. Yosef ibn Kaspi</a><a href="RYosefibnKaspiShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:6</a><a href="R. Yosef ibn Kaspi" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yosef ibn Kaspi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="Ran11" data-aht="source">Ran</a><a href="Ran11" data-aht="source">Derashot HaRan 11</a><a href="R. Nissim Gerondi (Ran)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Nissim Gerondi</a></multilink> | ||
</mekorot> | </mekorot> | ||
− | <point><b>"לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ"</b> – As above, these sources | + | <point><b>"לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ"</b> – As above, these sources note that Shemuel focuses specifically on the nation's request "שִׂימָה לָּנוּ מֶלֶךְ <b>לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ</b>", proving that what he found problematic was the desire for a king who "will judge us."<fn><sup id="reffn9" class="fnRef mceNonEditable"><a class="ahtNonEditable" href="#fn9">9</a></sup></fn></point> |
− | <point><b>Shemuel's sons</b> – The people request for a king comes on the back of their their complaints about Shemuel's sons.  This | + | <point><b>Shemuel's sons</b> – The people request for a king comes on the back of their their complaints about Shemuel's sons.  This further supports the contention that they desired a king who would serve in the capacity of judge.</point> |
<point><b>What is wrong with a king who judges?</b> The Ran explains that a king's tasks are political and military, while the judge's job is spiritual.  The latter necessitates having a Divine spark (ענין אלהי) which the monarch might be lacking.  As such, the two positions were meant to remain distinct.<fn>Ibn Kapsi points out that in Torah these constitute two separate commandments, "שֹׁפְטִים וְשֹׁטְרִים תִּתֶּן לְךָ בְּכׇל שְׁעָרֶיךָ" (Devarim 16) and "שׂוֹם תָּשִׂים עָלֶיךָ מֶלֶךְ" (Devarim 17)</fn></point> | <point><b>What is wrong with a king who judges?</b> The Ran explains that a king's tasks are political and military, while the judge's job is spiritual.  The latter necessitates having a Divine spark (ענין אלהי) which the monarch might be lacking.  As such, the two positions were meant to remain distinct.<fn>Ibn Kapsi points out that in Torah these constitute two separate commandments, "שֹׁפְטִים וְשֹׁטְרִים תִּתֶּן לְךָ בְּכׇל שְׁעָרֶיךָ" (Devarim 16) and "שׂוֹם תָּשִׂים עָלֶיךָ מֶלֶךְ" (Devarim 17)</fn></point> | ||
<point><b>"כְּכָל הַגּוֹיִם"</b> – According to this approach neither Shemuel nor Hashem were upset by the nation's choice of language, "to be like the nations".</point> | <point><b>"כְּכָל הַגּוֹיִם"</b> – According to this approach neither Shemuel nor Hashem were upset by the nation's choice of language, "to be like the nations".</point> | ||
<point><b>Hashem's response: "כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ"</b> – The Ran explains that Hashem is telling Shemuel that in asking for a purely political ruler to take on a spiritual role, the people were denying the need for a "Divine spark" and thus rejecting Hashem.</point> | <point><b>Hashem's response: "כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ"</b> – The Ran explains that Hashem is telling Shemuel that in asking for a purely political ruler to take on a spiritual role, the people were denying the need for a "Divine spark" and thus rejecting Hashem.</point> | ||
− | <point><b>Laws in Devarim</b> – Ibn Kaspi points out that since <a href="Devarim16-18-20" data-aht="source">Devarim 16</a> and <a href="Devarim17-14" data-aht="source">Devarim 17</a> speak of two distinct institutions, that of judges and that of kings, it is evident that an Israelite monarch was not supposed to serve | + | <point><b>Laws in Devarim</b> – Ibn Kaspi points out that since <a href="Devarim16-18-20" data-aht="source">Devarim 16</a> and <a href="Devarim17-14" data-aht="source">Devarim 17</a> speak of two distinct institutions, that of judges and that of kings, it is evident that an Israelite monarch was not supposed to serve as both.  Had the people asked for a king without elaboration, or one that would serve a military role, Shemuel and Hashem would not have resisted, since that was the original intention and command.<fn>These sources would likely explain that other places in Tanakh where the monarchy is viewed positively are speaking of an institution which is not judicial in nature.</fn></point> |
− | <point><b>Shemuel's speech in Chapter 12</b> – Shemuel focuses much of his speech on his honest dealings as judge, perhaps to highlight to the people what they will be missing when they have a politically minded king play that role in his stead.  The Ran suggests that Shemuel brings a miraculous sign ( | + | <point><b>Shemuel's speech in Chapter 12</b> – Shemuel focuses much of his speech on his honest dealings as judge, perhaps to highlight to the people what they will be missing when they have a politically minded king play that role in his stead.  The Ran suggests that Shemuel brings a miraculous sign (a thunderstorm out of season) to show that an individual with a Divine park is not subject to the laws of nature, again highlighting what a judge-king will lack.</point> |
<point><b>Granting a king</b> – According to the Ran, after Shemeul's rebuke, the people changed their request, this time adding that the king must play a military role: "וְיָצָא לְפָנֵינוּ וְנִלְחַם אֶת מִלְחֲמֹתֵנוּ". Though they were not willing to totally forego a judge-king, they at least made concessions due to Shemuel's rebuke, and so Hashem granted their request.</point> | <point><b>Granting a king</b> – According to the Ran, after Shemeul's rebuke, the people changed their request, this time adding that the king must play a military role: "וְיָצָא לְפָנֵינוּ וְנִלְחַם אֶת מִלְחֲמֹתֵנוּ". Though they were not willing to totally forego a judge-king, they at least made concessions due to Shemuel's rebuke, and so Hashem granted their request.</point> | ||
</opinion> | </opinion> | ||
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<multilink><a href="SifreDevarim156" data-aht="source">R. Nehorai in Sifre Devarim</a><a href="SifreDevarim156" data-aht="source">156</a><a href="Sifre Devarim" data-aht="parshan">About Sifre Devarim</a></multilink>,<multilink><a href="RalbagShemuelI8-4" data-aht="source"> Ralbag</a><a href="RalbagShemuelI8-4" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:4</a><a href="R. Levi b. Gershom (Ralbag, Gersonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Levi b. Gershom</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="AbarbanelShemuelI8-4" data-aht="source">bishop cited by Abarbanel</a><a href="AbarbanelShemuelI8-4" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:4-6</a><a href="R. Yitzchak Abarbanel" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yitzchak Abarbanel</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="MalbimShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Malbim #3</a><a href="MalbimShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:6</a><a href="R. Meir Leibush Weiser (Malbim)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Meir Leibush Weiser</a></multilink> | <multilink><a href="SifreDevarim156" data-aht="source">R. Nehorai in Sifre Devarim</a><a href="SifreDevarim156" data-aht="source">156</a><a href="Sifre Devarim" data-aht="parshan">About Sifre Devarim</a></multilink>,<multilink><a href="RalbagShemuelI8-4" data-aht="source"> Ralbag</a><a href="RalbagShemuelI8-4" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:4</a><a href="R. Levi b. Gershom (Ralbag, Gersonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Levi b. Gershom</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="AbarbanelShemuelI8-4" data-aht="source">bishop cited by Abarbanel</a><a href="AbarbanelShemuelI8-4" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:4-6</a><a href="R. Yitzchak Abarbanel" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yitzchak Abarbanel</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="MalbimShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Malbim #3</a><a href="MalbimShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:6</a><a href="R. Meir Leibush Weiser (Malbim)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Meir Leibush Weiser</a></multilink> | ||
</mekorot> | </mekorot> | ||
− | <point><b>"כְּכָל הַגּוֹיִם"</b></point> | + | <point><b>"כְּכָל הַגּוֹיִם"</b> – These sources focus on the people's request that they have a king "like the other nations," understanding this to mean that they desired a king who would act like Gentile rulers, deciding the law on his own rather than following Torah law.  </point> |
+ | <point><b>Monarchy in Devarim</b> – The Torah calls for a constitutional monarchy (with the Torah being the constitution), emphasizing that the king must write his own Sefer Torah, to highlight how he too is subservinet to the Torah's laws and not above them.  Had the people agreed to this tehre would have been no issue, but since they desired  n abxolute monarchy.</point> | ||
<point><b>"לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ"</b></point> | <point><b>"לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ"</b></point> | ||
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<point><b>Hashem's response</b></point> | <point><b>Hashem's response</b></point> | ||
</category> | </category> |
Version as of 06:57, 22 November 2016
Problem With the King
Exegetical Approaches
Rejection of Hashem for Human Military Leader
In requesting a human monarch to fight their wars, the people betrayed a lack of faith in and recognition of Hashem as their warrior and savior.
- Lack of trust – Radak asserts that the desire for a human warrior displays a lack of trust in Hashem to save the nation.
- Attribution of success to self – In addition, having a king makes it likely that the people will attribute all their successes to their human leader,2 as opposed to Hashem.3 This, in turn, will result in their not even turning to Hashem for aid when needed, as they replace Him with their new king.4
- Misconception as to causes of war – Prof. Elitzur adds that the request betrays the people's lack of understanding that wars and troubles come as a result of sin.5 The solution was not to find a king, but rather to repent and return to God.6
- Problematic – Radak suggests that the people should not have asked for a king "like all the other nations" since they were not like other nations. As long as they observed Hashem's laws, Hashem would fight for them. Thus unlike others, Israel really did not need a warrior-king.
- Not problematic – Prof. Elitzur, in contrast, sees nothing wrong in this formulation pointing out that it is identical to Hashem's language in Devarim. In fact, the people of Shemuel's time might simply be echoing Hashem's own words.
- It is possible that Shemuel understood the people correctly, (with "שפט" having a military connotation) and, like Hashem, was upset that the nation wanted to replace their old warrior, Hashem, with a new one.
- Alternatively, it is possible that Shemuel misunderstood the people's request, understanding "לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ" in its judicial sense. He took their request as a personal affront, as he assumed that they found him lacking.
- Prof Elitzur claims that the Torah is not against monarchy per se, only against the hopes the people put into the change of regime.8
- Alternatively, in Devarim Hashem is referring to a king whose primary role was not military in nature but judicial or spiritual. Such a monarch would not have been problematic, yet, even so, Hashem enacts laws to curb his power and remind him that he is subservient to Hashem. Otherwise there is a fear that he will become haughty and see himself as a replacement for Hashem, leading him and the nation to depend on the monarch and not God.
Rejection of the Shofet
The people's desire for a king "to judge us" was problematic either because it usurped the institution of judges as a whole, or because it was a personal affront to Shemuel specifically.
Insult to Shemuel
Though there is nothing wrong with the institution of monarchy, asking for a king to serve as a judge when Shemuel was still judging the nation was an insult to his honor.
Usurping the Role of Judges
The nation's request was problematic because they wanted a king to fulfill a judicial rather than a political or military role .
Rejection of Torah Law
Hashem was upset by the people's request since they desired a king who would be like the other nations and not subject to the laws of Torah.
Wrong Timing
Though there is nothing inherently wrong with the institution of monarchy, in this era of miraculous providence, there was no need for a king.