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<multilink><a href="BavliSanhedrin20b" data-aht="source">R. Eliezer in Bavli Sanhedrin</a><a href="BavliSanhedrin20b" data-aht="source">Sanhedrin 20b</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink> according to <multilink><a href="RashiSanhedrin20b" data-aht="source">Rashi</a><a href="RashiSanhedrin20b" data-aht="source">Sanhedrin 20b</a><a href="R. Shelomo Yitzchaki (Rashi)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shelomo Yitzchaki</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RadakShemuelI8-5820" data-aht="source">Radak</a><a href="RadakShemuelI8-5820" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:5, 8, 20</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Kimchi</a></multilink>, Prof. Y. Elitzur | <multilink><a href="BavliSanhedrin20b" data-aht="source">R. Eliezer in Bavli Sanhedrin</a><a href="BavliSanhedrin20b" data-aht="source">Sanhedrin 20b</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink> according to <multilink><a href="RashiSanhedrin20b" data-aht="source">Rashi</a><a href="RashiSanhedrin20b" data-aht="source">Sanhedrin 20b</a><a href="R. Shelomo Yitzchaki (Rashi)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shelomo Yitzchaki</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RadakShemuelI8-5820" data-aht="source">Radak</a><a href="RadakShemuelI8-5820" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:5, 8, 20</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Kimchi</a></multilink>, Prof. Y. Elitzur | ||
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− | <point><b>"וְיָצָא לְפָנֵינוּ וְנִלְחַם אֶת מִלְחֲמֹתֵנוּ"</b> – Rashi and Radak point to these words of the nation as evidence that the people were not requesting a king who would serve a judicial purpose, but rather a military leader. They claim that this focus on the military aspect of the king's leadership is what troubled Hashem.</point> | + | <point><b>"וְיָצָא לְפָנֵינוּ וְנִלְחַם אֶת מִלְחֲמֹתֵנוּ"</b> – Rashi and Radak point to these words of the nation as evidence that the people were not requesting a king who would serve a judicial purpose, but rather for someone to act as a military leader. They claim that this focus on the military aspect of the king's leadership is what troubled Hashem.</point> |
<point><b>"שִׂימָה לָּנוּ מֶלֶךְ לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ"</b> – One might argue that in their initial request, the people actually make no mention of any military role, but only a judicial one (לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ). Prof. Elitzur responds that the people were using the verb "שפט" in the military sense of the word,<fn>See also Radak's second possibility in explaining the word  "וּשְׁפָטָנוּ" in verse 22: "או פירושו יקח משפטינו מיד אויבינו".  According to this understanding, the last two clauses of the verse, ",וְיָצָא לְפָנֵינוּ וְנִלְחַם אֶת מִלְחֲמֹתֵנוּ" clarify what is meant by the initial phrase, "וּשְׁפָטָנוּ מַלְכֵּנוּ" .</fn> asking for a king who would serve as a שופט, like the leaders of the Book of Judges who were mainly saviors in war.</point> | <point><b>"שִׂימָה לָּנוּ מֶלֶךְ לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ"</b> – One might argue that in their initial request, the people actually make no mention of any military role, but only a judicial one (לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ). Prof. Elitzur responds that the people were using the verb "שפט" in the military sense of the word,<fn>See also Radak's second possibility in explaining the word  "וּשְׁפָטָנוּ" in verse 22: "או פירושו יקח משפטינו מיד אויבינו".  According to this understanding, the last two clauses of the verse, ",וְיָצָא לְפָנֵינוּ וְנִלְחַם אֶת מִלְחֲמֹתֵנוּ" clarify what is meant by the initial phrase, "וּשְׁפָטָנוּ מַלְכֵּנוּ" .</fn> asking for a king who would serve as a שופט, like the leaders of the Book of Judges who were mainly saviors in war.</point> | ||
<point><b>What is wrong with desiring a military leader?</b><ul> | <point><b>What is wrong with desiring a military leader?</b><ul> | ||
<li><b>Lack of trust</b> – Radak asserts that the desire for a human warrior displays a lack of trust in Hashem to save the nation.</li> | <li><b>Lack of trust</b> – Radak asserts that the desire for a human warrior displays a lack of trust in Hashem to save the nation.</li> | ||
− | <li><b>Attribution of success to self</b> – In addition, having a king makes it likely that the people will attribute all their successes to their human leader | + | <li><b>Attribution of success to self</b> – In addition, having a king makes it likely that the people will attribute all their successes to their human leader<fn>See <a href="Shaul's Sin in Gilgal" data-aht="page">Shaul's Sin in Gilgal</a> and <a href="Shaul Loses the Kingship" data-aht="page">Shaul Loses the Kingship</a> that Shaul's downfall might have been this very issue, an attribution of success to himself rather than Hashem.</fn> as opposed to Hashem.<fn>See the <multilink><a href="MinchahBelulahDevarim17-14" data-aht="source">Minchah Belulah</a><a href="MinchahBelulahDevarim17-14" data-aht="source">Devarim 17:14</a><a href="R. Avraham Porto (Minchah Belulah)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Avraham Porto</a></multilink> on Devarim 17, who asserts that the nation was not permitted to appoint a king until after the Conquest so that they would not attribute it to their human leader instead of Hashem.</fn> This, in turn, will result in their not even turning to Hashem for aid when needed, as they replace Him with their new king.<fn>In fact, in contrast to Sefer Shofetim which is filled with phrases such as "and they cried out to Hashem", after our chapter, such language is absent from the books of Shemuel, Melakhim and Divrei HaYamim.</fn> </li> |
<li><b>Misconception as to causes of war</b> – Prof. Elitzur adds that the request betrays the people's lack of understanding that wars and troubles come as a result of sin.<fn>They believed that the cause of their enemies' attacks was natural, the lack of a king, not realizing that the true reason was that they did not listen to Hashem.</fn>  The solution was not to find a king, but rather to repent and return to God.<fn>In fact, appointing a king would exacerbate the problem of sin and punishment.  Beforehand, when troubles came, the people would at least then remember Hashem and turn to Him.  Now that would no longer be the case.</fn></li> | <li><b>Misconception as to causes of war</b> – Prof. Elitzur adds that the request betrays the people's lack of understanding that wars and troubles come as a result of sin.<fn>They believed that the cause of their enemies' attacks was natural, the lack of a king, not realizing that the true reason was that they did not listen to Hashem.</fn>  The solution was not to find a king, but rather to repent and return to God.<fn>In fact, appointing a king would exacerbate the problem of sin and punishment.  Beforehand, when troubles came, the people would at least then remember Hashem and turn to Him.  Now that would no longer be the case.</fn></li> | ||
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<point><b>Shemeul's speech when anointing Shaul</b> – When Shemuel appoints Shaul as king, he reminds the people that it is Hashem, not their new king, who is their true savior:  "וְאַתֶּם הַיּוֹם מְאַסְתֶּם אֶת אֱלֹהֵיכֶם אֲשֶׁר <b>הוּא מוֹשִׁיעַ</b> לָכֶם מִכׇּל רָעוֹתֵיכֶם וְצָרֹתֵיכֶם וַתֹּאמְרוּ לוֹ כִּי מֶלֶךְ תָּשִׂים עָלֵינוּ" (<a href="ShemuelI10-18-20" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 10:18-20</a>). This further supports this position's understanding of the people's flawed request.</point> | <point><b>Shemeul's speech when anointing Shaul</b> – When Shemuel appoints Shaul as king, he reminds the people that it is Hashem, not their new king, who is their true savior:  "וְאַתֶּם הַיּוֹם מְאַסְתֶּם אֶת אֱלֹהֵיכֶם אֲשֶׁר <b>הוּא מוֹשִׁיעַ</b> לָכֶם מִכׇּל רָעוֹתֵיכֶם וְצָרֹתֵיכֶם וַתֹּאמְרוּ לוֹ כִּי מֶלֶךְ תָּשִׂים עָלֵינוּ" (<a href="ShemuelI10-18-20" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 10:18-20</a>). This further supports this position's understanding of the people's flawed request.</point> | ||
− | <point><b>Shemuel's speech in Chapter 12</b> – Throughout his speech, Shemuel brings examples of how, in the past, when the Israelites found themselves in danger, they would cry out to Hashem, recognizing that they had sinned. This, he hints, is what they were supposed to do | + | <point><b>Shemuel's speech in Chapter 12</b> – Throughout his speech, Shemuel brings examples of how, in the past, when the Israelites found themselves in danger, they would cry out to Hashem, recognizing that they had sinned. This, he hints, is what they were supposed to do. Similarly, Shemuel might intentionally bring a sign from non-seasonal rain since, in Torah, rain and the lack thereof is a barometer of the people's observance of Hashem's commandments and a reminder of our dependence upon Him.</point> |
<point><b>Parallel to Gidon</b> – After Gidon's victory over Midyan, the people make the same mistake they do here, requesting that Gidon lead them as king because "you saved us from Midyan".  Gidon refuses, teaching the nation: "לֹא אֶמְשֹׁל אֲנִי בָּכֶם וְלֹא יִמְשֹׁל בְּנִי בָּכֶם י"י יִמְשֹׁל בָּכֶם" (<a href="Shofetim8-22-23" data-aht="source">Shofetim 8:22-23</a>).</point> | <point><b>Parallel to Gidon</b> – After Gidon's victory over Midyan, the people make the same mistake they do here, requesting that Gidon lead them as king because "you saved us from Midyan".  Gidon refuses, teaching the nation: "לֹא אֶמְשֹׁל אֲנִי בָּכֶם וְלֹא יִמְשֹׁל בְּנִי בָּכֶם י"י יִמְשֹׁל בָּכֶם" (<a href="Shofetim8-22-23" data-aht="source">Shofetim 8:22-23</a>).</point> | ||
<point><b>Mishpat haMelekh</b></point> | <point><b>Mishpat haMelekh</b></point> | ||
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<point><b>"שִׂימָה לָּנוּ מֶלֶךְ לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ כְּכׇל הַגּוֹיִם"</b> – This position does not see anything wrong in either the content or manner of the request.</point> | <point><b>"שִׂימָה לָּנוּ מֶלֶךְ לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ כְּכׇל הַגּוֹיִם"</b> – This position does not see anything wrong in either the content or manner of the request.</point> | ||
− | <point><b>Why is the timing wrong?</b> Malbim explains that a king is only necessary in an era in which the people are living under the laws of nature and chance.  In the time of Shemuel, however, there was miraculous providence, making such a position redundant. | + | <point><b>Why is the timing wrong?</b> Malbim explains that a king is only necessary in an era in which the people are living under the laws of nature and chance.  In the time of Shemuel, however, there was miraculous providence, making such a position redundant.</point> |
<point><b>"כִּי תָבֹא אֶל הָאָרֶץ... וִירִשְׁתָּהּ וְיָשַׁבְתָּה בָּהּ"</b> – Malbim claims that the verses specify that the nation should only ask for a king after conquest and settlement, since beforehand Hashem's providence was very prevalent. Only afterwards, were there various time periods in which Hashem left the people to nature.</point> | <point><b>"כִּי תָבֹא אֶל הָאָרֶץ... וִירִשְׁתָּהּ וְיָשַׁבְתָּה בָּהּ"</b> – Malbim claims that the verses specify that the nation should only ask for a king after conquest and settlement, since beforehand Hashem's providence was very prevalent. Only afterwards, were there various time periods in which Hashem left the people to nature.</point> | ||
<point><b>Hashem's response: "כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ"</b> – In choosing to forego providential leadership, the people turned their back on Hashem.</point> | <point><b>Hashem's response: "כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ"</b> – In choosing to forego providential leadership, the people turned their back on Hashem.</point> |
Version as of 13:12, 23 November 2016
Problem With the King
Exegetical Approaches
Rejection of Hashem for Human Military Leader
In requesting a human monarch to fight their wars, the people betrayed a lack of faith in and recognition of Hashem as their warrior and savior.
- Lack of trust – Radak asserts that the desire for a human warrior displays a lack of trust in Hashem to save the nation.
- Attribution of success to self – In addition, having a king makes it likely that the people will attribute all their successes to their human leader2 as opposed to Hashem.3 This, in turn, will result in their not even turning to Hashem for aid when needed, as they replace Him with their new king.4
- Misconception as to causes of war – Prof. Elitzur adds that the request betrays the people's lack of understanding that wars and troubles come as a result of sin.5 The solution was not to find a king, but rather to repent and return to God.6
- Problematic – Radak suggests that the people should not have asked for a king "like all the other nations" since they were not like other nations. As long as they observed Hashem's laws, Hashem would fight for them. Thus unlike others, Israel really did not need a warrior-king.
- Not problematic – Prof. Elitzur, in contrast, sees nothing wrong in this formulation pointing out that it is identical to Hashem's language in Devarim. In fact, the people of Shemuel's time might simply be echoing Hashem's own words.
- It is possible that Shemuel understood the people correctly, (with "שפט" having a military connotation) and, like Hashem, was upset that the nation wanted to replace their old warrior, Hashem, with a new one.
- Alternatively, it is possible that Shemuel misunderstood the people's request, understanding "לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ" in its judicial sense. He took their request as a personal affront, as he assumed that they found him lacking.
- Prof Elitzur claims that the Torah is not against monarchy per se, only against the hopes the people put into the change of regime.8
- Alternatively, in Devarim Hashem is referring to a king whose primary role was not military in nature but judicial or spiritual. Such a monarch would not have been problematic, yet, even so, Hashem enacts laws to curb his power and remind him that he is subservient to Hashem. Otherwise there is a fear that he will become haughty and see himself as a replacement for Hashem, leading him and the nation to depend on the monarch and not God.
Rejection of the Shofet
The people's desire for a king "to judge us" was problematic either because it usurped the institution of judges as a whole, or because it was a personal affront to Shemuel specifically.
Insult to Shemuel
Though there is nothing wrong with the institution of monarchy, asking for a king to serve as a judge when Shemuel was still judging the nation was an insult to his honor.
Usurping the Role of Judges
The nation's request was problematic because they wanted a king to fulfill a judicial rather than a political or military role .
Rejection of Torah Law
Hashem was upset by the people's request since they desired a king who would be like the other nations and not subject to the laws of Torah.
Wrong Timing
Though there is nothing inherently wrong with the institution of monarchy, in this era of miraculous providence, there was no need for a king.