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<multilink><a href="RambamHilkhotMelakhim1-2" data-aht="source">Rambam</a><a href="RambamHilkhotMelakhim1-2" data-aht="source">Hilkhot Melakhim 1:2</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Maimon (Rambam, Maimonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe b. Maimon</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RambanBeresehit49-10" data-aht="source">Ramban</a><a href="RambanBeresehit49-10" data-aht="source">Beresehit 49:10</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Nachman (Ramban, Nachmanides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe b. Nachman</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="MalbimShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Malbim #2</a><a href="MalbimShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:6</a><a href="R. Meir Leibush Weiser (Malbim)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Meir Leibush Weiser</a></multilink>, Hoil Moshe | <multilink><a href="RambamHilkhotMelakhim1-2" data-aht="source">Rambam</a><a href="RambamHilkhotMelakhim1-2" data-aht="source">Hilkhot Melakhim 1:2</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Maimon (Rambam, Maimonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe b. Maimon</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RambanBeresehit49-10" data-aht="source">Ramban</a><a href="RambanBeresehit49-10" data-aht="source">Beresehit 49:10</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Nachman (Ramban, Nachmanides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe b. Nachman</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="MalbimShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Malbim #2</a><a href="MalbimShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:6</a><a href="R. Meir Leibush Weiser (Malbim)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Meir Leibush Weiser</a></multilink>, Hoil Moshe | ||
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− | <point><b>"לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ"</b> – These sources all pick up on the nation's request "שִׂימָה לָּנוּ מֶלֶךְ <b>לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ</b>", claiming that Shemuel is upset specifically by the people's request  for a king who "will judge us."<fn>The Malbim points out that had they asked for a king without elaboration or for a military leader, that would not have been problematic.</fn></point> | + | <point><b>"לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ"</b> – These sources all pick up on the nation's request "שִׂימָה לָּנוּ מֶלֶךְ <b>לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ</b>", claiming that Shemuel is upset specifically by the people's request  for a king who "will judge us."<fn>The Malbim points out that had they asked for a king without elaboration or for a military leader, that would not have been problematic.  The Rambam similarly asserts that had they requested a king with the intention of fulfilling the commandment, that would have been commendable.</fn></point> |
− | <point><b>Shemuel's sons</b> – The fact that the people preface their request for a king with their complaints about Shemuel's sons not following in their father's way, | + | <point><b>Shemuel's sons</b> – The fact that the people preface their request for a king with their complaints about Shemuel's sons not following in their father's way, supports the idea that their request for a king stemmed from a desire to replace Shemuel and his family.<fn>Hoil Moshe points to an inconsistency  in the nation's request which proves that their motives were not pure.  The people complain about Shemuel's sons not following in his ways, but nonetheless ask specifically for a dynastic ruler where the same issue of an unfit son inheriting the position is likely!  This proved to Shemuel that the people were simply looking to reject him and his family.</fn></point> |
<point><b>Shemuel's speech in Chapter 12</b> – The first half of Shemuel's speech is devoted to Shemuel's insistence that he was always honest in his dealings with the nation.  This focus further supports the idea that Shemuel had felt that the people doubted his abilities and functioning as a judge.</point> | <point><b>Shemuel's speech in Chapter 12</b> – The first half of Shemuel's speech is devoted to Shemuel's insistence that he was always honest in his dealings with the nation.  This focus further supports the idea that Shemuel had felt that the people doubted his abilities and functioning as a judge.</point> | ||
<point><b>"כְּכָל הַגּוֹיִם"</b> – These sources see nothing wrong in the desire "to be like the nations". After all, in Devarim when Hashem speaks of appointing a king, He Himself says that the people will request a king "like all the nations".  Moreover, if this was problematic either Shemuel or Hashem should have emphasized that aspect of the request in their speech.</point> | <point><b>"כְּכָל הַגּוֹיִם"</b> – These sources see nothing wrong in the desire "to be like the nations". After all, in Devarim when Hashem speaks of appointing a king, He Himself says that the people will request a king "like all the nations".  Moreover, if this was problematic either Shemuel or Hashem should have emphasized that aspect of the request in their speech.</point> | ||
<point><b>Hashem's response: "כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ"</b> – Hashem's response to Shemuel "כִּי לֹא אֹתְךָ מָאָסוּ כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ" would seem to go against this position as it suggests that Hashem does not see in the nation's request an affront to Shemuel.  The Hoil Moshe explains that Hashem isn't denying the insult, but comforting Shemuel by telling him that the people treat Hashem the same way, constantly turning away from Him and choosing idols in His place.  Thus, Shemuel should not take it unduly to heart:  "דיו לעבד שיהיה כרבו".  Hoil Moshe further proves that Hashem isn't trying to dismiss Shemuel's concerns from His final words, "כֵּן הֵמָּה עֹשִׂים <b>גַּם לָךְ</b>".</point> | <point><b>Hashem's response: "כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ"</b> – Hashem's response to Shemuel "כִּי לֹא אֹתְךָ מָאָסוּ כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ" would seem to go against this position as it suggests that Hashem does not see in the nation's request an affront to Shemuel.  The Hoil Moshe explains that Hashem isn't denying the insult, but comforting Shemuel by telling him that the people treat Hashem the same way, constantly turning away from Him and choosing idols in His place.  Thus, Shemuel should not take it unduly to heart:  "דיו לעבד שיהיה כרבו".  Hoil Moshe further proves that Hashem isn't trying to dismiss Shemuel's concerns from His final words, "כֵּן הֵמָּה עֹשִׂים <b>גַּם לָךְ</b>".</point> | ||
− | <point><b> | + | <point><b>Is appointing a king obligatory or permissible?</b> Rambam and Ramban both maintain that it is a positive commandment to appoint a king.  This, and other positive references to kingship elsewhere in Tanakh, are not problematic for this position as these sources agree that the monarchy in general is a desired institution. In Sefer Shemuel, the anger at the nation comes not from the content of the people's request but from the manner in which they ask it.</point> |
<point><b>Granting a king</b> – Hashem granted the request since there was really nothing wrong with asking for a monarch.  The people's sin was only an interpersonal one.</point> | <point><b>Granting a king</b> – Hashem granted the request since there was really nothing wrong with asking for a monarch.  The people's sin was only an interpersonal one.</point> | ||
<point><b>Shemuel and Shaul</b></point> | <point><b>Shemuel and Shaul</b></point> | ||
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<point><b>"כְּכָל הַגּוֹיִם"</b> – These sources focus on the people's request that they have a king "like the other nations," understanding this to mean that they desired a king who would act like Gentile rulers, deciding the law on his own rather than following Torah law.<fn>R. Nehorai focuses only on the fact that the king will be idolatrous.</fn>  Thus, while the Torah speaks of a constitutional monarchy, the people requested an absolute monarchy.</point> | <point><b>"כְּכָל הַגּוֹיִם"</b> – These sources focus on the people's request that they have a king "like the other nations," understanding this to mean that they desired a king who would act like Gentile rulers, deciding the law on his own rather than following Torah law.<fn>R. Nehorai focuses only on the fact that the king will be idolatrous.</fn>  Thus, while the Torah speaks of a constitutional monarchy, the people requested an absolute monarchy.</point> | ||
− | <point><b> | + | <point><b>Hashem's mention of "כְּכָל הַגּוֹיִם" in Devarim</b> – One may question how asking to be "like the nations" could be problematic if Hashem uses the very same language when speaking of anointing a king in <a href="Devarim17-14" data-aht="source">Devarim</a>. Malbim responds that in Devarim, the phrase "כְּכׇל הַגּוֹיִם" is linked to the words "אָשִׂימָה עָלַי מֶלֶךְ" so Hashem is simply saying that the people will want to appoint a monarch just as other nations have such a leader.  In Shemuel, however, the words "כְּכׇל הַגּוֹיִם" refer back to the verb "לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ" which changes the people's intent totally, for here they are instead asking for a king whose<i> judgement</i> will be like that of other nations.</point> |
<point><b>"לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ"</b> – This approach must explain why, when the verses describes Shemuel's distress at the people's request, they make no mention of the fact that the nation desired a king "like all the nations" emphasizing instead that they wanted one to "judge" them. These sources respond that Shemuel mentions the aspect of judgement, since this is the area in which the king won't be abiding by Torah law, as he will, instead, be making his own code.</point> | <point><b>"לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ"</b> – This approach must explain why, when the verses describes Shemuel's distress at the people's request, they make no mention of the fact that the nation desired a king "like all the nations" emphasizing instead that they wanted one to "judge" them. These sources respond that Shemuel mentions the aspect of judgement, since this is the area in which the king won't be abiding by Torah law, as he will, instead, be making his own code.</point> | ||
<point><b>Hashem's response: "כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ"</b> – In choosing a king who won't follow the Torah's dictates the people in effect reject Hashem.</point> | <point><b>Hashem's response: "כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ"</b> – In choosing a king who won't follow the Torah's dictates the people in effect reject Hashem.</point> | ||
<point><b>Comparison to idolatry</b> – Hashem recognizes that such a king will turn the people away from Hashem and thus the request is similar to the people's history of idol worship.</point> | <point><b>Comparison to idolatry</b> – Hashem recognizes that such a king will turn the people away from Hashem and thus the request is similar to the people's history of idol worship.</point> | ||
− | <point><b> | + | <point><b>Is appointing a king obligatory or permissible?</b> Ralbag asserts that it is a positive commandment to appoint a king, but according to the conditions set forth in Devarim.  These include that the king be chosen by God and be of the Israelite nation, for such a king will follow the dictates of Hashem's Torah.  Had this been what the nation in the time of Shemuel desired, there would have been no opposition.</point> |
+ | <point><b>"משפט המלך" in Devarim versus Shemuel</b> – Since Torah calls for a constitutional monarchy, Devarim commands that a king must write his own Sefer Torah, highlighting how he, too, is subservient to the Torah's laws and not above them. In Sefer Shemuel, in contrast, the prophet warns the nation what an absolute monarch is like.  He will extort the people and take of their property and children to serve him.</point> | ||
<point><b>Shemuel's speech in Chapter 12</b> – At the end of his speech, Shemuel repeatedly warns the people that if they listen to Hashem's laws then all will be well, but if they don't disaster will come.  In this warning, Shemuel is in effect telling the nation that as long as their monarch abides by Torah law, and does not "judge like all the nations", Hashem will help them.</point> | <point><b>Shemuel's speech in Chapter 12</b> – At the end of his speech, Shemuel repeatedly warns the people that if they listen to Hashem's laws then all will be well, but if they don't disaster will come.  In this warning, Shemuel is in effect telling the nation that as long as their monarch abides by Torah law, and does not "judge like all the nations", Hashem will help them.</point> | ||
<point><b>Granting the request</b> – Hashem grants the request despite its problematic nature, and leaves it up to the nation to ensure that they do not stray and allow their king to abandon Torah.</point> | <point><b>Granting the request</b> – Hashem grants the request despite its problematic nature, and leaves it up to the nation to ensure that they do not stray and allow their king to abandon Torah.</point> | ||
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<point><b>Hashem's response: "כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ"</b> – In choosing to forego providential leadership, the people turned their back on Hashem.</point> | <point><b>Hashem's response: "כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ"</b> – In choosing to forego providential leadership, the people turned their back on Hashem.</point> | ||
<point><b>Supernatural signs</b> – In Chapter 12, Shemuel rebukes the people again for desiring a king, and accompanies his words with a supernatural sign.  This served to remind the people that they had chosen to forsake miraculous leadership for natural government.<fn>See the Ran above who has a similar take on both the sign and the problems with a king.</fn></point> | <point><b>Supernatural signs</b> – In Chapter 12, Shemuel rebukes the people again for desiring a king, and accompanies his words with a supernatural sign.  This served to remind the people that they had chosen to forsake miraculous leadership for natural government.<fn>See the Ran above who has a similar take on both the sign and the problems with a king.</fn></point> | ||
+ | <point><b>Is appointing a king obligatory or permissible?</b> Malbim maintains that it is obligatory to appoint a king, but only when the people are left to nature and don't merit Divine providence.</point> | ||
<point><b>Granting the request</b> – Since a king in itself is not negative, Hashem granted the request.</point> | <point><b>Granting the request</b> – Since a king in itself is not negative, Hashem granted the request.</point> | ||
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Version as of 10:09, 6 December 2016
What is Wrong With a King?
Exegetical Approaches
Rejection of Hashem for Human Military Leader
In requesting a human monarch to fight their wars, the people betrayed a lack of faith in and recognition of Hashem as their warrior and savior.
- Lack of trust – Radak asserts that the desire for a human warrior displays a lack of trust in Hashem to save the nation.
- Attribution of success to self – Or HaChayyim adds that having a king makes it likely that the people will attribute all their successes to their human leader3 as opposed to Hashem.4 This, in turn, will result in their not even turning to Hashem for aid when needed, as they replace Him with their new king.5
- Misconception as to causes of war – R. D"Z Hoffman6 adds that the request betrays the people's lack of understanding that wars and troubles come as a result of sin.7 The solution was not to find a king, but rather to repent and return to God.8
- Problematic – Radak suggests that the people should not have asked for a king "like all the other nations" since they were not like other nations. As long as they observed Hashem's laws, Hashem would fight for them. Thus unlike others, Israel really did not need a warrior-king. Or HaChayyim similarly finds the phrase problematic, suggesting that it is this phrase which points to the desire for a military leader, since that is the role played by other monarchs.9
- Not problematic – R. D"Z Hoffmann and Prof. Elitzur, in contrast, see nothing wrong in this formulation pointing out that it is identical to Hashem's language in Devarim. In fact, the people of Shemuel's time might simply be echoing Hashem's own words.
- Prof Elitzur claims that the Torah is not against monarchy per se, only against the hopes the people put into the change of regime.11
- Alternatively, in Devarim (and elsewhere) Hashem is referring to a king whose primary role was not military in nature but judicial or spiritual. Such a monarch would not have been problematic, yet, even so, Hashem enacts laws to curb his power and remind him that he is subservient to Hashem.
Rejection of the Shofet
The people's desire for a king "to judge us" was problematic either because it was a personal affront to Shemuel specifically or because it usurped the institution of judges as a whole.
Insult to Shemuel
Though the institution of monarchy is not in and of itself problematic, asking for a king to serve as a judge when Shemuel was still judging the nation was an insult to his honor.
Usurping the Role of Judges
The nation's request was problematic because they wanted a king to fulfill a judicial rather than a political or military role.
Rejection of Torah Law
Hashem was upset by the people's request since they desired a king who would be like the other nations and not subject to the laws of Torah.
Wrong Timing
Though there is nothing inherently wrong with kingship, in this era of miraculous providence, there was no need for a king.
Dynastic Leader
Hashem and Shemuel were opposed to the concept of a dynastic leader who would bequeath the position to his sons after him.