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− | <p>In attempting to discover what was so problematic about the people's request for a king, commentators mine almost every word of the people's request looking for the source of Shemuel and Hashem's ire. Radak asserts that the people's desire that the king "fight our wars" is the problem as it portrays a lack of belief in Hashem as the nation's true savior.  Others | + | <p>In attempting to discover what was so problematic about the people's request for a king, commentators mine almost every word of the people's request looking for the source of Shemuel and Hashem's ire. Radak asserts that the people's desire that the king "fight our wars" is the problem as it portrays a lack of belief in Hashem as the nation's true savior.  Others maintain that the description of the monarch as one who "shall judge us" was the issue. Ramban sees in the request for an alternate ruler a personal affront to the prophet Shemuel, while the Ran views it as an inappropriate mixing of the roles of king and judge.</p> |
− | <p>A third group of commentators pick up on the desire to "be like all the nations".  Ralbag understands this language to mean that the people wanted a ruler who would not be subject to Torah law, while | + | <p>A third group of commentators pick up on the desire to "be like all the nations".  Ralbag understands this language to mean that the people wanted a ruler who would not be subject to Torah law, while Sforno maintains that it refers to dynastic rule. Finally, Malbim maintains that there was nothing wrong with either the content or language of the request, only with the timing.  In a period of miraculous leadership, such as that found during Shemuel's tenure, there was no need for a human king.</p></div> |
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<p>In requesting a human monarch to fight their wars, the people betrayed a lack of faith in and recognition of Hashem as their warrior and savior.</p> | <p>In requesting a human monarch to fight their wars, the people betrayed a lack of faith in and recognition of Hashem as their warrior and savior.</p> | ||
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− | <multilink><a href="BavliSanhedrin20b" data-aht="source">R. Eliezer in Bavli Sanhedrin</a><a href="BavliSanhedrin20b" data-aht="source">Sanhedrin 20b</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink> according to <multilink><a href="RashiSanhedrin20b" data-aht="source">Rashi</a><a href="RashiSanhedrin20b" data-aht="source">Sanhedrin 20b</a><a href="R. Shelomo Yitzchaki (Rashi)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shelomo Yitzchaki</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RadakShemuelI8-5820" data-aht="source">Radak</a><a href="RadakShemuelI8-5820" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:5, 8, 20</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Kimchi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="OrHaChayyimDevarim17-14" data-aht="source">Or HaChayyim</a><a href="OrHaChayyimDevarim17-14" data-aht="source">Devarim 17:14</a><a href="R. Chayyim b. Atar (Or HaChayyim)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Chayyim b. Atar</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="NetzivDevarim17-14" data-aht="source">Netziv</a><a href="NetzivDevarim17-14" data-aht="source">Devarim 17:14</a><a href="R. Naftali Tzvi Yehuda Berlin (Netziv)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Naftali Tzvi Yehuda Berlin</a></multilink>,<fn>Netziv believes that asking a king to be either a military leader or a judge is problematic.</fn> <multilink><a href="RDavidZviHoffmannDevarim17Introduction" data-aht="source">R. David Zvi Hoffmann</a><a href="RDavidZviHoffmannDevarim17Introduction" data-aht="source">Devarim 17 Introduction</a><a href="RDavidZviHoffmannDevarim17-14" data-aht="source">Devarim 17:14</a><a href="R. David Zvi Hoffmann" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Zvi Hoffmann</a></multilink>, Prof. Y. Elitzur | + | <multilink><a href="BavliSanhedrin20b" data-aht="source">R. Eliezer in Bavli Sanhedrin</a><a href="BavliSanhedrin20b" data-aht="source">Sanhedrin 20b</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink> according to <multilink><a href="RashiSanhedrin20b" data-aht="source">Rashi</a><a href="RashiSanhedrin20b" data-aht="source">Sanhedrin 20b</a><a href="R. Shelomo Yitzchaki (Rashi)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shelomo Yitzchaki</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RadakShemuelI8-5820" data-aht="source">Radak</a><a href="RadakShemuelI8-5820" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:5, 8, 20</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Kimchi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="OrHaChayyimDevarim17-14" data-aht="source">Or HaChayyim</a><a href="OrHaChayyimDevarim17-14" data-aht="source">Devarim 17:14</a><a href="R. Chayyim b. Atar (Or HaChayyim)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Chayyim b. Atar</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="NetzivDevarim17-14" data-aht="source">Netziv</a><a href="NetzivDevarim17-14" data-aht="source">Devarim 17:14</a><a href="R. Naftali Tzvi Yehuda Berlin (Netziv)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Naftali Tzvi Yehuda Berlin</a></multilink>,<fn>Netziv believes that asking for a king to be either a military leader or a judge is problematic, and thus combines this approach with the position below "Usurping the Role of Judges".</fn> <multilink><a href="RDavidZviHoffmannDevarim17Introduction" data-aht="source">R. David Zvi Hoffmann</a><a href="RDavidZviHoffmannDevarim17Introduction" data-aht="source">Devarim 17 Introduction</a><a href="RDavidZviHoffmannDevarim17-14" data-aht="source">Devarim 17:14</a><a href="R. David Zvi Hoffmann" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Zvi Hoffmann</a></multilink>, Prof. Y. Elitzur<fn>See his article, <a href="http://www.daat.ac.il/daat/tanach/rishonim/shmua8eli-1.htm">"שמואל הנביא והמלוכה</a>", in עיונים בספר שמואל, (Jerusalem, 1986): 7-12.</fn> |
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<point><b>"וְיָצָא לְפָנֵינוּ וְנִלְחַם אֶת מִלְחֲמֹתֵנוּ"</b> – Rashi and Radak point to these words of the nation as evidence that the people were not requesting a king who would serve a judicial purpose, but rather one who would act in a military capacity. They claim that this focus on the military aspect of the king's leadership is what troubled Hashem.</point> | <point><b>"וְיָצָא לְפָנֵינוּ וְנִלְחַם אֶת מִלְחֲמֹתֵנוּ"</b> – Rashi and Radak point to these words of the nation as evidence that the people were not requesting a king who would serve a judicial purpose, but rather one who would act in a military capacity. They claim that this focus on the military aspect of the king's leadership is what troubled Hashem.</point> | ||
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<point><b>Hashem's response: "כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ"</b> – Hashem here corrects Shemuel's misconception and explains that the people's desire for a king is really a rejection of Hashem, not Shemuel.</point> | <point><b>Hashem's response: "כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ"</b> – Hashem here corrects Shemuel's misconception and explains that the people's desire for a king is really a rejection of Hashem, not Shemuel.</point> | ||
<point><b>Comparison to idolatry</b> – Since the monarchy means that the people depend on their king rather than Hashem, it is similar to idolatry.<fn>See Rashbam on Shemot 16:4 who similarly points out that dependence on Hashem instills belief in Him.</fn>  It, too, will eventually lead the people to forsake Hashem.</point> | <point><b>Comparison to idolatry</b> – Since the monarchy means that the people depend on their king rather than Hashem, it is similar to idolatry.<fn>See Rashbam on Shemot 16:4 who similarly points out that dependence on Hashem instills belief in Him.</fn>  It, too, will eventually lead the people to forsake Hashem.</point> | ||
− | <point><b>"כֵּן הֵמָּה עֹשִׂים גַּם לָךְ"</b> – According to Radak, in these words Hashem tells Shemuel that the people actually did rebel against the prophet as well, but in his military rather than judicial role.  Until now the prophet had led them in battle by bringing them back to Hashem.  In fact, he was so successful that they were hardly threatened by war anymore. Thus, in asking for a king, the people were rejecting both Hashem and Shemuel.</point> | + | <point><b>"כֵּן הֵמָּה עֹשִׂים גַּם לָךְ"</b> – According to Radak, in these words Hashem tells Shemuel that the people actually did rebel against the prophet as well, but in his military rather than judicial role.  Until now the prophet had led them in battle through his spiritual role, by bringing them back to Hashem.  In fact, he was so successful that they were hardly threatened by war anymore. Thus, in asking for a king, the people were rejecting both Hashem and Shemuel.</point> |
<point><b>Positive mentions of monarchy</b><ul> | <point><b>Positive mentions of monarchy</b><ul> | ||
<li>Prof Elitzur claims that the Torah is not against monarchy per se, only against the hopes the people put into the change of regime.<fn>It was their assumptions that changing their ruler, rather than changing their ways,  would make them victorious in battle and usher in peace, that was problematic.</fn></li> | <li>Prof Elitzur claims that the Torah is not against monarchy per se, only against the hopes the people put into the change of regime.<fn>It was their assumptions that changing their ruler, rather than changing their ways,  would make them victorious in battle and usher in peace, that was problematic.</fn></li> | ||
<li>Alternatively, in Devarim (and elsewhere) Hashem is referring to a king whose primary role was not military in nature but judicial or spiritual. Such a monarch would not have been problematic, yet, even so, Hashem enacts laws to curb his power and remind him that he is subservient to Hashem. </li> | <li>Alternatively, in Devarim (and elsewhere) Hashem is referring to a king whose primary role was not military in nature but judicial or spiritual. Such a monarch would not have been problematic, yet, even so, Hashem enacts laws to curb his power and remind him that he is subservient to Hashem. </li> | ||
</ul></point> | </ul></point> | ||
+ | <point><b>Is it obligatory or permitted to appoint a king?</b></point> | ||
<point><b>Shemuel's speech when anointing Shaul</b> – When Shemuel appoints Shaul as king, he reminds the people that it is Hashem, not their new king, who is their true savior:  "וְאַתֶּם הַיּוֹם מְאַסְתֶּם אֶת אֱלֹהֵיכֶם אֲשֶׁר <b>הוּא מוֹשִׁיעַ</b> לָכֶם מִכׇּל רָעוֹתֵיכֶם וְצָרֹתֵיכֶם וַתֹּאמְרוּ לוֹ כִּי מֶלֶךְ תָּשִׂים עָלֵינוּ" (<a href="ShemuelI10-18-20" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 10:18-20</a>). This further supports this position's understanding of the people's flawed request.</point> | <point><b>Shemuel's speech when anointing Shaul</b> – When Shemuel appoints Shaul as king, he reminds the people that it is Hashem, not their new king, who is their true savior:  "וְאַתֶּם הַיּוֹם מְאַסְתֶּם אֶת אֱלֹהֵיכֶם אֲשֶׁר <b>הוּא מוֹשִׁיעַ</b> לָכֶם מִכׇּל רָעוֹתֵיכֶם וְצָרֹתֵיכֶם וַתֹּאמְרוּ לוֹ כִּי מֶלֶךְ תָּשִׂים עָלֵינוּ" (<a href="ShemuelI10-18-20" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 10:18-20</a>). This further supports this position's understanding of the people's flawed request.</point> | ||
<point><b>Shemuel's speech in Chapter 12</b> – R. D" Z Hoffmann points out that throughout his speech, Shemuel brings examples of how, in the past, when the Israelites found themselves in danger, they would cry out to Hashem, recognizing that they had sinned. This, he implicitly rebukes the people, is what they were supposed to do. Similarly, Shemuel might intentionally bring a sign from non-seasonal rain since, in Torah, rain and the lack thereof is a barometer of the people's observance of Hashem's commandments (the true reason for military success) and a reminder of our dependence upon Him.</point> | <point><b>Shemuel's speech in Chapter 12</b> – R. D" Z Hoffmann points out that throughout his speech, Shemuel brings examples of how, in the past, when the Israelites found themselves in danger, they would cry out to Hashem, recognizing that they had sinned. This, he implicitly rebukes the people, is what they were supposed to do. Similarly, Shemuel might intentionally bring a sign from non-seasonal rain since, in Torah, rain and the lack thereof is a barometer of the people's observance of Hashem's commandments (the true reason for military success) and a reminder of our dependence upon Him.</point> | ||
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<p>Though the institution of monarchy is not in and of itself problematic, asking for a king to serve as a judge when Shemuel was still judging the nation was an insult to his honor.</p> | <p>Though the institution of monarchy is not in and of itself problematic, asking for a king to serve as a judge when Shemuel was still judging the nation was an insult to his honor.</p> | ||
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− | <multilink><a href="RambamHilkhotMelakhim1-2" data-aht="source">Rambam</a><a href="RambamHilkhotMelakhim1-2" data-aht="source">Hilkhot Melakhim 1:2</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Maimon (Rambam, Maimonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe b. Maimon</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RambanBeresehit49-10" data-aht="source">Ramban</a><a href="RambanBeresehit49-10" data-aht="source">Beresehit 49:10</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Nachman (Ramban, Nachmanides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe b. Nachman</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="MalbimShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Malbim #2</a><a href="MalbimShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:6</a><a href="R. Meir Leibush Weiser (Malbim)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Meir Leibush Weiser</a></multilink>, Hoil Moshe | + | <multilink><a href="RambamHilkhotMelakhim1-2" data-aht="source">Rambam</a><a href="RambamHilkhotMelakhim1-2" data-aht="source">Hilkhot Melakhim 1:2</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Maimon (Rambam, Maimonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe b. Maimon</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RambanBeresehit49-10" data-aht="source">Ramban</a><a href="RambanBeresehit49-10" data-aht="source">Beresehit 49:10</a><a href="RambanDevarim17-16-14" data-aht="source">Devarim 17:16:14</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Nachman (Ramban, Nachmanides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe b. Nachman</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="MalbimShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Malbim #2</a><a href="MalbimShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:6</a><a href="R. Meir Leibush Weiser (Malbim)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Meir Leibush Weiser</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="HoilMosheShemuelI8-5-6" data-aht="source">Hoil Moshe</a><a href="HoilMosheShemuelI8-5-6" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:5-6</a><a href="HoilMosheShemuelI12-2" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 12:2</a><a href="R. Moshe Yitzchak Ashkenazi (Hoil Moshe)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Moshe Yitzchak Ashkenazi</a></multilink> |
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− | <point><b>"לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ"</b> – These sources | + | <point><b>"לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ"</b> – These sources pick up on the nation's request "שִׂימָה לָּנוּ מֶלֶךְ <b>לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ</b>", claiming that Shemuel is upset specifically by the people's request  for a king who "will judge us."<fn>The Malbim points out that had they asked for a king without elaboration or for a military leader, that would not have been problematic.  The Rambam similarly asserts that had they requested a king with the intention of fulfilling the commandment, that would have been commendable.</fn> It was this aspect which led to Shemuel's feelings of rejection; for they were asking to replace him and his position.</point> |
<point><b>Shemuel's sons</b> – The fact that the people preface their request for a king with their complaints about Shemuel's sons not following in their father's way, supports the idea that their request for a king stemmed from a desire to replace Shemuel and his family.<fn>Hoil Moshe points to an inconsistency  in the nation's request which proves that their motives were not pure.  The people complain about Shemuel's sons not following in his ways, but nonetheless ask specifically for a dynastic ruler where the same issue of an unfit son inheriting the position is likely!  This proved to Shemuel that the people were simply looking to reject him and his family.</fn></point> | <point><b>Shemuel's sons</b> – The fact that the people preface their request for a king with their complaints about Shemuel's sons not following in their father's way, supports the idea that their request for a king stemmed from a desire to replace Shemuel and his family.<fn>Hoil Moshe points to an inconsistency  in the nation's request which proves that their motives were not pure.  The people complain about Shemuel's sons not following in his ways, but nonetheless ask specifically for a dynastic ruler where the same issue of an unfit son inheriting the position is likely!  This proved to Shemuel that the people were simply looking to reject him and his family.</fn></point> | ||
<point><b>Shemuel's speech in Chapter 12</b> – The first half of Shemuel's speech is devoted to Shemuel's insistence that he was always honest in his dealings with the nation.  This focus further supports the idea that Shemuel had felt that the people doubted his abilities and functioning as a judge.</point> | <point><b>Shemuel's speech in Chapter 12</b> – The first half of Shemuel's speech is devoted to Shemuel's insistence that he was always honest in his dealings with the nation.  This focus further supports the idea that Shemuel had felt that the people doubted his abilities and functioning as a judge.</point> | ||
<point><b>"כְּכָל הַגּוֹיִם"</b> – These sources see nothing wrong in the desire "to be like the nations". After all, in Devarim when Hashem speaks of appointing a king, He Himself says that the people will request a king "like all the nations".  Moreover, if this was problematic either Shemuel or Hashem should have emphasized that aspect of the request in their speech.</point> | <point><b>"כְּכָל הַגּוֹיִם"</b> – These sources see nothing wrong in the desire "to be like the nations". After all, in Devarim when Hashem speaks of appointing a king, He Himself says that the people will request a king "like all the nations".  Moreover, if this was problematic either Shemuel or Hashem should have emphasized that aspect of the request in their speech.</point> | ||
<point><b>Hashem's response: "כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ"</b> – Hashem's response to Shemuel "כִּי לֹא אֹתְךָ מָאָסוּ כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ" would seem to go against this position as it suggests that Hashem does not see in the nation's request an affront to Shemuel.  The Hoil Moshe explains that Hashem isn't denying the insult, but comforting Shemuel by telling him that the people treat Hashem the same way, constantly turning away from Him and choosing idols in His place.  Thus, Shemuel should not take it unduly to heart:  "דיו לעבד שיהיה כרבו".  Hoil Moshe further proves that Hashem isn't trying to dismiss Shemuel's concerns from His final words, "כֵּן הֵמָּה עֹשִׂים <b>גַּם לָךְ</b>".</point> | <point><b>Hashem's response: "כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ"</b> – Hashem's response to Shemuel "כִּי לֹא אֹתְךָ מָאָסוּ כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ" would seem to go against this position as it suggests that Hashem does not see in the nation's request an affront to Shemuel.  The Hoil Moshe explains that Hashem isn't denying the insult, but comforting Shemuel by telling him that the people treat Hashem the same way, constantly turning away from Him and choosing idols in His place.  Thus, Shemuel should not take it unduly to heart:  "דיו לעבד שיהיה כרבו".  Hoil Moshe further proves that Hashem isn't trying to dismiss Shemuel's concerns from His final words, "כֵּן הֵמָּה עֹשִׂים <b>גַּם לָךְ</b>".</point> | ||
− | <point><b>Is appointing a king obligatory or permissible?</b> Rambam and Ramban both maintain that it is a positive commandment to appoint a king.  | + | <point><b>Is appointing a king obligatory or permissible?</b> Rambam and Ramban both maintain that it is a positive commandment to appoint a king.  After all, the monarchy in general is a desired institution.<fn>As such, elsewhere, too, Tanakh looks upon it favorably.</fn> In Sefer Shemuel, the anger at the nation comes not from the content of the people's request but from the manner in which they ask it.</point> |
<point><b>Granting a king</b> – Hashem granted the request since there was really nothing wrong with asking for a monarch.  The people's sin was only an interpersonal one.</point> | <point><b>Granting a king</b> – Hashem granted the request since there was really nothing wrong with asking for a monarch.  The people's sin was only an interpersonal one.</point> | ||
− | <point><b>Shemuel and Shaul</b></point> | + | <point><b>Shemuel and Shaul</b> – See opinions in <a href="Shaul's Sin in Gilgal" data-aht="page">Shaul's Sin in Gilgal</a> which suggest that throughout Shaul and Shemuel's relationship there was a certain tension caused by this initial feeling of rejection.</point> |
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<opinion>Usurping the Role of Judges | <opinion>Usurping the Role of Judges | ||
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<point><b>"לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ"</b> – As above, these sources note that Shemuel focuses specifically on the nation's request "שִׂימָה לָּנוּ מֶלֶךְ <b>לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ</b>", proving that what he found problematic was the desire for a king who "will judge us."</point> | <point><b>"לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ"</b> – As above, these sources note that Shemuel focuses specifically on the nation's request "שִׂימָה לָּנוּ מֶלֶךְ <b>לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ</b>", proving that what he found problematic was the desire for a king who "will judge us."</point> | ||
<point><b>Shemuel's sons</b> – The people's request for a king comes on the back of their complaints about Shemuel's sons.  This further supports the assertion that they desired a king who would serve in the capacity of judge.</point> | <point><b>Shemuel's sons</b> – The people's request for a king comes on the back of their complaints about Shemuel's sons.  This further supports the assertion that they desired a king who would serve in the capacity of judge.</point> | ||
− | <point><b>What is wrong with a king who judges?</b> The Ran explains that a king's tasks are political and military, while the judge's job is spiritual.  The latter necessitates having a Divine spark (ענין | + | <point><b>What is wrong with a king who judges?</b> The Ran explains that a king's tasks are political and military, while the judge's job is spiritual.  The latter necessitates having a Divine spark (ענין א-להי) which the monarch might be lacking.  As such, the two positions were meant to remain distinct.<fn>Ibn Kapsi points out that in Torah these constitute two separate commandments, "שֹׁפְטִים וְשֹׁטְרִים תִּתֶּן לְךָ בְּכׇל שְׁעָרֶיךָ" (Devarim 16) and "שׂוֹם תָּשִׂים עָלֶיךָ מֶלֶךְ" (Devarim 17)</fn></point> |
<point><b>"כְּכָל הַגּוֹיִם"</b> – According to this approach neither Shemuel nor Hashem were upset by the nation's choice of language, "to be like the nations".</point> | <point><b>"כְּכָל הַגּוֹיִם"</b> – According to this approach neither Shemuel nor Hashem were upset by the nation's choice of language, "to be like the nations".</point> | ||
<point><b>Hashem's response: "כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ"</b> – The Ran explains that Hashem is telling Shemuel that in asking for a purely political ruler to take on a spiritual role, the people were denying the need for a "Divine spark" and thus rejecting Hashem.</point> | <point><b>Hashem's response: "כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ"</b> – The Ran explains that Hashem is telling Shemuel that in asking for a purely political ruler to take on a spiritual role, the people were denying the need for a "Divine spark" and thus rejecting Hashem.</point> | ||
<point><b>Monarchy in Devarim</b> – Ibn Kaspi points out that since <a href="Devarim16-18-20" data-aht="source">Devarim 16</a> and <a href="Devarim17-14" data-aht="source">Devarim 17</a> speak of two distinct institutions, that of judges and that of kings, it is evident that an Israelite monarch was not supposed to serve as both.  Had the people asked for a king without elaboration, or one that would serve a military role, Shemuel and Hashem would not have resisted, since that was the original intention and command.<fn>These sources would likely explain that other places in Tanakh where the monarchy is viewed positively are similarly speaking of an institution which is not judicial in nature.</fn></point> | <point><b>Monarchy in Devarim</b> – Ibn Kaspi points out that since <a href="Devarim16-18-20" data-aht="source">Devarim 16</a> and <a href="Devarim17-14" data-aht="source">Devarim 17</a> speak of two distinct institutions, that of judges and that of kings, it is evident that an Israelite monarch was not supposed to serve as both.  Had the people asked for a king without elaboration, or one that would serve a military role, Shemuel and Hashem would not have resisted, since that was the original intention and command.<fn>These sources would likely explain that other places in Tanakh where the monarchy is viewed positively are similarly speaking of an institution which is not judicial in nature.</fn></point> | ||
− | <point><b>Shemuel's speech in Chapter 12</b> – Shemuel focuses much of his speech on his honest dealings as judge, perhaps to highlight to the people what they will be missing when they have a politically minded king play that role in his stead.  The Ran suggests that Shemuel brings a miraculous sign (a thunderstorm out of season) to show that an individual with a Divine park is not subject to the laws of nature, again highlighting what a judge-king will lack.</point> | + | <point><b>Shemuel's speech in Chapter 12</b> – Shemuel focuses much of his speech on his honest dealings as judge, perhaps to highlight to the people what they will be missing when they have a politically minded king play that role in his stead.  The Ran suggests that Shemuel brings a miraculous sign (a thunderstorm out of season) to show that an individual with a Divine park is not subject to the laws of nature, again highlighting what a judge-king will lack.<fn>Cf. the Malbim below who explains the choice of sign similarly.</fn></point> |
− | <point><b>Granting a king</b> – According to the Ran, after | + | <point><b>Granting a king</b> – According to the Ran, after Shemuel's rebuke, the people changed their request, this time adding that the king must play a military role: "וְיָצָא לְפָנֵינוּ וְנִלְחַם אֶת מִלְחֲמֹתֵנוּ". Though they were not willing to totally forego a judge-king, they at least made concessions due to Shemuel's rebuke, and so Hashem granted their request.</point> |
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<p>Hashem was upset by the people's request since they desired a king who would be like the other nations and not subject to the laws of Torah.</p> | <p>Hashem was upset by the people's request since they desired a king who would be like the other nations and not subject to the laws of Torah.</p> | ||
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− | <multilink><a href="SifreDevarim156" data-aht="source">R. Nehorai in Sifre Devarim</a><a href="SifreDevarim156" data-aht="source">156</a><a href="Sifre Devarim" data-aht="parshan">About Sifre Devarim</a></multilink>,<multilink><a href="RalbagShemuelI8-4" data-aht="source"> Ralbag</a><a href="RalbagShemuelI8-4" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:4</a><a href="R. Levi b. Gershom (Ralbag, Gersonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Levi b. Gershom</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="AbarbanelShemuelI8-4" data-aht="source">bishop cited by Abarbanel</a><a href="AbarbanelShemuelI8-4" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:4-6</a><a href="R. Yitzchak Abarbanel" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yitzchak Abarbanel</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="MalbimShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Malbim #3</a><a href="MalbimShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:6</a><a href="R. Meir Leibush Weiser (Malbim)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Meir Leibush Weiser</a></multilink> | + | <multilink><a href="SifreDevarim156" data-aht="source">R. Nehorai in Sifre Devarim</a><a href="SifreDevarim156" data-aht="source">156</a><a href="Sifre Devarim" data-aht="parshan">About Sifre Devarim</a></multilink>,<fn>R. Nehorai focuses only on the fact that the king will be idolatrous.</fn> <multilink><a href="RalbagShemuelI8-4" data-aht="source">Ralbag</a><a href="RalbagDevarim17-14-15" data-aht="source">Devarim 17:14-15</a><a href="RalbagShemuelI8-4" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:4</a><a href="R. Levi b. Gershom (Ralbag, Gersonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Levi b. Gershom</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="AbarbanelShemuelI8-4" data-aht="source">bishop cited by Abarbanel</a><a href="AbarbanelShemuelI8-4" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:4-6</a><a href="R. Yitzchak Abarbanel" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yitzchak Abarbanel</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="MalbimShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Malbim #3</a><a href="MalbimShemuelI8-6" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 8:6</a><a href="R. Meir Leibush Weiser (Malbim)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Meir Leibush Weiser</a></multilink> |
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− | <point><b>"כְּכָל הַגּוֹיִם"</b> – These sources focus on the people's request that they have a king "like the other nations," understanding this to mean that they desired a king who would act like Gentile rulers, deciding the law on his own rather than following Torah law. | + | <point><b>"כְּכָל הַגּוֹיִם"</b> – These sources focus on the people's request that they have a king "like the other nations," understanding this to mean that they desired a king who would act like Gentile rulers, deciding the law on his own rather than following Torah law.  Thus, while the Torah speaks of a constitutional monarchy, the people requested an absolute monarchy.</point> |
<point><b>Hashem's mention of "כְּכָל הַגּוֹיִם" in Devarim</b> – One may question how asking to be "like the nations" could be problematic if Hashem uses the very same language when speaking of anointing a king in <a href="Devarim17-14" data-aht="source">Devarim</a>. Malbim responds that in Devarim, the phrase "כְּכׇל הַגּוֹיִם" is linked to the words "אָשִׂימָה עָלַי מֶלֶךְ" so Hashem is simply saying that the people will want to appoint a monarch just as other nations have such a leader.  In Shemuel, however, the words "כְּכׇל הַגּוֹיִם" refer back to the verb "לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ" which changes the people's intent totally, for here they are instead asking for a king whose<i> judgement</i> will be like that of other nations.</point> | <point><b>Hashem's mention of "כְּכָל הַגּוֹיִם" in Devarim</b> – One may question how asking to be "like the nations" could be problematic if Hashem uses the very same language when speaking of anointing a king in <a href="Devarim17-14" data-aht="source">Devarim</a>. Malbim responds that in Devarim, the phrase "כְּכׇל הַגּוֹיִם" is linked to the words "אָשִׂימָה עָלַי מֶלֶךְ" so Hashem is simply saying that the people will want to appoint a monarch just as other nations have such a leader.  In Shemuel, however, the words "כְּכׇל הַגּוֹיִם" refer back to the verb "לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ" which changes the people's intent totally, for here they are instead asking for a king whose<i> judgement</i> will be like that of other nations.</point> | ||
<point><b>"לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ"</b> – This approach must explain why, when the verses describes Shemuel's distress at the people's request, they make no mention of the fact that the nation desired a king "like all the nations" emphasizing instead that they wanted one to "judge" them. These sources respond that Shemuel mentions the aspect of judgement, since this is the area in which the king won't be abiding by Torah law, as he will, instead, be making his own code.</point> | <point><b>"לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ"</b> – This approach must explain why, when the verses describes Shemuel's distress at the people's request, they make no mention of the fact that the nation desired a king "like all the nations" emphasizing instead that they wanted one to "judge" them. These sources respond that Shemuel mentions the aspect of judgement, since this is the area in which the king won't be abiding by Torah law, as he will, instead, be making his own code.</point> | ||
<point><b>Hashem's response: "כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ"</b> – In choosing a king who won't follow the Torah's dictates the people in effect reject Hashem.</point> | <point><b>Hashem's response: "כִּי אֹתִי מָאֲסוּ"</b> – In choosing a king who won't follow the Torah's dictates the people in effect reject Hashem.</point> | ||
<point><b>Comparison to idolatry</b> – Hashem recognizes that such a king will turn the people away from Hashem and thus the request is similar to the people's history of idol worship.</point> | <point><b>Comparison to idolatry</b> – Hashem recognizes that such a king will turn the people away from Hashem and thus the request is similar to the people's history of idol worship.</point> | ||
− | <point><b>Is appointing a king obligatory or permissible?</b> Ralbag asserts that it is a positive commandment to appoint a king, but according to the conditions set forth in Devarim.  These include that the king be chosen by God and be of the Israelite nation, for such a king will follow the dictates of Hashem's Torah | + | <point><b>Is appointing a king obligatory or permissible?</b> Ralbag asserts that it is a positive commandment to appoint a king, but that this must be according to the conditions set forth in Devarim.  These include that the king be chosen by God and be of the Israelite nation, for such a king will follow the dictates of Hashem's Torah.</point> |
<point><b>"משפט המלך" in Devarim versus Shemuel</b> – Since Torah calls for a constitutional monarchy, Devarim commands that a king must write his own Sefer Torah, highlighting how he, too, is subservient to the Torah's laws and not above them. In Sefer Shemuel, in contrast, the prophet warns the nation what an absolute monarch is like.  He will extort the people and take of their property and children to serve him.</point> | <point><b>"משפט המלך" in Devarim versus Shemuel</b> – Since Torah calls for a constitutional monarchy, Devarim commands that a king must write his own Sefer Torah, highlighting how he, too, is subservient to the Torah's laws and not above them. In Sefer Shemuel, in contrast, the prophet warns the nation what an absolute monarch is like.  He will extort the people and take of their property and children to serve him.</point> | ||
<point><b>Shemuel's speech in Chapter 12</b> – At the end of his speech, Shemuel repeatedly warns the people that if they listen to Hashem's laws then all will be well, but if they don't disaster will come.  In this warning, Shemuel is in effect telling the nation that as long as their monarch abides by Torah law, and does not "judge like all the nations", Hashem will help them.</point> | <point><b>Shemuel's speech in Chapter 12</b> – At the end of his speech, Shemuel repeatedly warns the people that if they listen to Hashem's laws then all will be well, but if they don't disaster will come.  In this warning, Shemuel is in effect telling the nation that as long as their monarch abides by Torah law, and does not "judge like all the nations", Hashem will help them.</point> | ||
<point><b>Granting the request</b> – Hashem grants the request despite its problematic nature, leaving it to the nation to ensure that they do not stray and allow their king to abandon Torah.</point> | <point><b>Granting the request</b> – Hashem grants the request despite its problematic nature, leaving it to the nation to ensure that they do not stray and allow their king to abandon Torah.</point> | ||
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+ | Desire for Dynastic Leadership | ||
+ | <p>Hashem and Shemuel were opposed to the concept of a dynastic leader who would bequeath the position to his sons after him.</p> | ||
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+ | <multilink><a href="SfornoDevarim17-14" data-aht="source">Sforno</a><a href="SfornoDevarim17-14" data-aht="source">Devarim 17:14</a><a href="R. Ovadyah Sforno" data-aht="parshan">About R. Ovadyah Sforno</a></multilink> | ||
+ | </mekorot> | ||
+ | <point><b>"שִׂימָה לָּנוּ מֶלֶךְ לְשׇׁפְטֵנוּ כְּכׇל הַגּוֹיִם"</b> – Sforno understands the request "כְּכׇל הַגּוֹיִם" to mean a dynastic leader, the mode of government found among the other nations.  In Israel, in contrast, leadership should have taken the form of Shofetim, who ruled on their own with no expectation that they would pass the mantle to their children after them.<fn>As a source for appointing such a non-dynastic leader, he points to Moshe's request that Hashem find the nation a leader, "וְלא תִהְיֶה עֲדַת ה' כַּצּאן אֲשֶׁר אֵין לָהֶם רוֹעֶה"</fn></point> | ||
+ | <point><b>What is wrong with a dynasty?</b> Sforno does not address the issue but one could say that dynastic rule runs the risk of inferior leadership since it is not merit based and allows for the possibility that someone who is not qualified, whether morally or politically, will nonetheless rule. In addition it means losing out on the constant intervening of Hashem to appoint an appropriate leader and thus on the continuous feeling of Hashem's providence on the nation.<fn>See <a href="http://www.etzion.org.il/he/%D7%A4%D7%A8%D7%A9%D7%AA-%D7%A9%D7%95%D7%A4%D7%98%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%9E%D7%A6%D7%95%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%9E%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%95%D7%99-%D7%9E%D7%9C%D7%9A-%D7%95%D7%A9%D7%90%D7%9C%D7%AA-%D7%94%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%98%D7%A8-%D7%94%D7%9E%D7%93%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%99-%D7%94%D7%A8%D7%A6%D7%95%D7%99-%D7%A2%D7%9C-%D7%A4%D7%99-%D7%94%D7%AA%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%94">R"E Samet</a> who develops this idea.</fn> Finally, as <multilink><a href="ShadalDevarim17-14" data-aht="source">Shadal</a><a href="ShadalDevarim17-14" data-aht="source">Devarim 17:14</a><a href="R. Shemuel David Luzzatto (Shadal)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shemuel David Luzzatto</a></multilink> says, it leads to a feeling of entitlement and arrogance which might express itself in abuse of the people.<fn>It should be noted that though Shadal sees this as a danger of dynastic leadership, he himself does not agree that therefore a dynasty is necessarily problematic.  In certain eras and societies, this could still be the preferred form of government. He suggests that the problem in the people's request was that they were motivated by a desire for glory.  They were no longer satisfied with a ruler who had no wealth and no entourage and desired a monarch with all the accompanying pomp and ceremony.  Thus the desire for a king is not in itself an issue, but what their request betrayed about their values (that they had become an honor-seeking nation), was cause for sorrow.</fn></point> | ||
+ | <point><b>Is appointing a king obligatory or permissible?</b> Sforno maintains that the Torah does not command the nation to appoint a king, but rather permits it as a concession to human nature. Knowing that the nation will be obstinate in their desire for a king, the Torah regulates the appointment, ensuring that the ruler be picked by Hashem, and that he not be haughty. Sforno compare it to the case of a beautiful captive woman, which is also only permitted as a last resort.<fn>He adds that just as marrying such a woman inevitably leads to hating her and rebellious children, so too, anointing a king will result in abuse and the people's crying to Hashem as described by Shemuel (Shemuel I 8:11-18).</fn></point> | ||
+ | <point><b>"מִשְׁפַּט הַמֶּלֶךְ"</b> – According to Sforno, Shemuel explains to the nation that the inevitable result of appointing a dynastic ruler will be his extortion of the people.</point> | ||
+ | <point><b>Granting the request</b> – Hashem grants the request, but lets it be known that the people will pay the price.</point> | ||
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<point><b>Granting the request</b> – Since a king in itself is not negative, Hashem granted the request.</point> | <point><b>Granting the request</b> – Since a king in itself is not negative, Hashem granted the request.</point> | ||
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Latest revision as of 11:04, 28 January 2023
Concerns Regarding the Monarchy
Exegetical Approaches
Overview
In attempting to discover what was so problematic about the people's request for a king, commentators mine almost every word of the people's request looking for the source of Shemuel and Hashem's ire. Radak asserts that the people's desire that the king "fight our wars" is the problem as it portrays a lack of belief in Hashem as the nation's true savior. Others maintain that the description of the monarch as one who "shall judge us" was the issue. Ramban sees in the request for an alternate ruler a personal affront to the prophet Shemuel, while the Ran views it as an inappropriate mixing of the roles of king and judge.
A third group of commentators pick up on the desire to "be like all the nations". Ralbag understands this language to mean that the people wanted a ruler who would not be subject to Torah law, while Sforno maintains that it refers to dynastic rule. Finally, Malbim maintains that there was nothing wrong with either the content or language of the request, only with the timing. In a period of miraculous leadership, such as that found during Shemuel's tenure, there was no need for a human king.
Rejection of Hashem for Human Military Leader
In requesting a human monarch to fight their wars, the people betrayed a lack of faith in and recognition of Hashem as their warrior and savior.
- Lack of trust – Radak asserts that the desire for a human warrior displays a lack of trust in Hashem to save the nation.
- Attribution of success to self – Or HaChayyim adds that having a king makes it likely that the people will attribute all their successes to their human leader4 as opposed to Hashem.5 This, in turn, will result in their not even turning to Hashem for aid when needed, as they replace Him with their new king.6
- Misconception as to causes of war – R. D"Z Hoffman7 adds that the request betrays the people's lack of understanding that wars and troubles come as a result of sin.8 The solution was not to find a king, but rather to repent and return to God.9
- Problematic – Radak suggests that the people should not have asked for a king "like all the other nations" since they were not like other nations. As long as they observed Hashem's laws, Hashem would fight for them. Thus unlike others, Israel really did not need a warrior-king. Or HaChayyim similarly finds the phrase problematic, suggesting that it is this phrase which points to the desire for a military leader, since that is the role played by other monarchs.10
- Not problematic – R. D"Z Hoffmann and Prof. Elitzur, in contrast, see nothing wrong in this formulation pointing out that it is identical to Hashem's language in Devarim. In fact, the people of Shemuel's time might simply be echoing Hashem's own words.
- Prof Elitzur claims that the Torah is not against monarchy per se, only against the hopes the people put into the change of regime.12
- Alternatively, in Devarim (and elsewhere) Hashem is referring to a king whose primary role was not military in nature but judicial or spiritual. Such a monarch would not have been problematic, yet, even so, Hashem enacts laws to curb his power and remind him that he is subservient to Hashem.
Rejection of the Shofet
The people's desire for a king "to judge us" was problematic either because it was a personal affront to Shemuel specifically or because it usurped the institution of judges as a whole.
Insult to Shemuel
Though the institution of monarchy is not in and of itself problematic, asking for a king to serve as a judge when Shemuel was still judging the nation was an insult to his honor.
Usurping the Role of Judges
The nation's request was problematic because they wanted a king to fulfill a judicial rather than a political or military role.
Rejection of Torah Law
Hashem was upset by the people's request since they desired a king who would be like the other nations and not subject to the laws of Torah.
Desire for Dynastic Leadership
Hashem and Shemuel were opposed to the concept of a dynastic leader who would bequeath the position to his sons after him.
Wrong Timing
Though there is nothing inherently wrong with kingship, in this era of miraculous providence, there was no need for a king.