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<point><b>Can you drink all four at once?</b> Since the liturgy is what is important, drinking all four at once defeats the purpose.</point>
 
<point><b>Can you drink all four at once?</b> Since the liturgy is what is important, drinking all four at once defeats the purpose.</point>
 
<point><b>Who needs to drink?</b> Ba'alei HaTosafot suggests that the head of the household can fulfill the obligation for all those around him,<fn>They do, though, recommend that one be strict and provide four cups of wine to all who are present.</fn> just as he does during kiddush on Shabbat. R. Y"Z&#160; Soloveitchik explains that according to Ba'alei HaTosafot, since the primary obligation is the recital of words of praise rather than the actual drinking, only one person must drink. This is no different than kiddush on Shabbat where there is a similar obligation of "אמירה על הכוס" and the drinking is secondary.<fn>On Shabbat, in fact, one has no wine one is even able to fulfill the mitzvah over bread.&#160; The wine itself is thus obviously not essential.</fn></point>
 
<point><b>Who needs to drink?</b> Ba'alei HaTosafot suggests that the head of the household can fulfill the obligation for all those around him,<fn>They do, though, recommend that one be strict and provide four cups of wine to all who are present.</fn> just as he does during kiddush on Shabbat. R. Y"Z&#160; Soloveitchik explains that according to Ba'alei HaTosafot, since the primary obligation is the recital of words of praise rather than the actual drinking, only one person must drink. This is no different than kiddush on Shabbat where there is a similar obligation of "אמירה על הכוס" and the drinking is secondary.<fn>On Shabbat, in fact, one has no wine one is even able to fulfill the mitzvah over bread.&#160; The wine itself is thus obviously not essential.</fn></point>
<point><b>Necessary shiur (רוב כוס)?</b> The gemara rules that one must drink "the majority of a cup" to fulfill one's obligation.&#160; It is not clear, though, if this is simply a way of saying that one must drink a "cheekful" (מלא לוגמיו) as one does in Kiddush,<fn>To be considered a "cup" it must measure at least a "רביעית", or a fourth.&#160; Since a majority of a "רביעית" is identical to the measurement of a "cheekful", it is possible that this is the meaning of the gemara.</fn> or if it is emphasizing the concept of drinking a cup of wine<fn>The gemara's mention of drinking a majority of the cup is another way of saying to drink a cup's worth, but we maintain that "רובו ככולו", the majority is comparable to the whole.</fn>. Ba'alei HaTosafot maintain the former, in line with their understanding that the 4 cups are parallel to kiddush, where a "taste" is important to establish "saying over wine" but a full cup is not.</point>
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<point><b>Necessary shiur (רוב כוס)?</b> The gemara rules that one must drink "the majority of a cup" to fulfill one's obligation.&#160; It is not clear, though, if this is simply a way of saying that one must drink a "cheekful" (מלא לוגמיו) as one does in Kiddush,<fn>To be considered a "cup" it must measure at least a "רביעית", or a fourth of a "לוג".&#160; Since a majority of a "רביעית" is identical to the measurement of a "cheekful", it is possible that this is the meaning of the gemara.</fn> or if it is emphasizing the concept of drinking a cup of wine.<fn>The gemara's mention of drinking a majority of the cup is another way of saying to drink a cup's worth, but we maintain that "רובו ככולו", the majority is comparable to the whole.</fn> Ba'alei HaTosafot maintain the former, in line with their understanding that the 4 cups are parallel to kiddush, where a "taste" is important to establish "saying over wine" but a full cup is not.</point>
<point><b>Status of undiluted wine</b> – Undiluted wine does not affect the fulfillment of the basic obligation of four cups since the taste of the wine is not crucial for saying the praise.&#160; This position might explain, as does Rashbam, that the gemara's staement that one does not fulfill the obligation of "expressing freedom" in so doing, is only a secondary level of obligation, a מצוה מן המובחר.</point>
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<point><b>Status of undiluted wine</b> – Undiluted wine does not affect the fulfillment of the basic obligation of four cups since the taste of the wine is not crucial for saying the praise.&#160; Nonetheless, it is still preferable to drink it dilutedh genmara writes, t the gemara's staement that one does not fulfill the obligation of "expressing freedom" in so doing, is only a secondary level of obligation, a מצוה מן המובחר.</point>
 
<point><b>Women's obligation</b> – Since women also participated in the miracle, they must also sing Hashem's praises, and are thus obligated to drink the Four Cups.</point>
 
<point><b>Women's obligation</b> – Since women also participated in the miracle, they must also sing Hashem's praises, and are thus obligated to drink the Four Cups.</point>
 
<point><b>How does this relate to reclining?</b></point>
 
<point><b>How does this relate to reclining?</b></point>

Version as of 01:06, 30 March 2015

Four Cups

Exegetical Approaches

This topic is still being developed and updated

Four Statements of Praise

There are four instances in the Haggadah where we sing Hashem's praises, in Kaddesh, Maggid, Birkat HaMazon, and Hallel.  Since praise is normally accompanied by wine, these, too, are said over a cup of wine.

Why four? According to this approach, there is no special significance to the number four.  It so happens that there are four places where we "toast" Hashem's miracles and thus there are four cups of wine.
One obligation or four? This approach would view each cup as its own individual obligation, unconnected to the other three.
Can you drink all four at once? Since the liturgy is what is important, drinking all four at once defeats the purpose.
Who needs to drink? Ba'alei HaTosafot suggests that the head of the household can fulfill the obligation for all those around him,1 just as he does during kiddush on Shabbat. R. Y"Z  Soloveitchik explains that according to Ba'alei HaTosafot, since the primary obligation is the recital of words of praise rather than the actual drinking, only one person must drink. This is no different than kiddush on Shabbat where there is a similar obligation of "אמירה על הכוס" and the drinking is secondary.2
Necessary shiur (רוב כוס)? The gemara rules that one must drink "the majority of a cup" to fulfill one's obligation.  It is not clear, though, if this is simply a way of saying that one must drink a "cheekful" (מלא לוגמיו) as one does in Kiddush,3 or if it is emphasizing the concept of drinking a cup of wine.4 Ba'alei HaTosafot maintain the former, in line with their understanding that the 4 cups are parallel to kiddush, where a "taste" is important to establish "saying over wine" but a full cup is not.
Status of undiluted wine – Undiluted wine does not affect the fulfillment of the basic obligation of four cups since the taste of the wine is not crucial for saying the praise.  Nonetheless, it is still preferable to drink it dilutedh genmara writes, t the gemara's staement that one does not fulfill the obligation of "expressing freedom" in so doing, is only a secondary level of obligation, a מצוה מן המובחר.
Women's obligation – Since women also participated in the miracle, they must also sing Hashem's praises, and are thus obligated to drink the Four Cups.
How does this relate to reclining?

Expression of Freedom or Happiness

Drinking four cups of wine is a demonstration of our status as free people.

Why four? According to this approach, wine must be drunken in abundance to be an expression of freedom or happiness.  The number four was probably chosen because it is a round number and allowed for associations with other relevant groupings of four:
  • Four expressions of redemption – R. Yochanan connects the four cups to the four verbs in Shemot 6 which speak of Hashem's salvation (ארבע לשונות גאולה).
  • Four cups of Paroh – R. Yehoshua b. Levi relates them to the four mentions of Paroh's cup in the dream of the Butler, in Bereshit 40.5
  • Four kingdoms – According to R. Levi they match the four kingdoms that oppress Israel.6
  • Four cups of wrath and consolation – The opinion of the Rabbis in the Yerushalmi suggests that the four cups correlate to the four cups of calamity that are to be given to the enemies of Israel in the future, which themselves correspond to four cups of consolation that Hashem is to give to Israel to drink.7
Why are they drunk where they are?
Halakhic ramifications

Combination