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<h2>First Course</h2>
 
<h2>First Course</h2>
<p>In the Mishnaic period it was a common practice in Israel that festive meals began with a&#160; series of appetizers. This is attested to in several Tannaitic passages,<fn>See, for instance, <a href="ToseftaPesachim10-4" data-aht="source">Tosefta Pesachim 10:4</a>, <a href="ToseftaPesachim10-9" data-aht="source">Tosefta Pesachim 10:9</a>, <a href="YerushalmiBerakhot6-6" data-aht="source">Yerushalmi Berakhot 6:6</a>. Cf. <a href="BavliAvodahZarah11a" data-aht="source">Bavli Avodah Zarah 11a</a> which speaks of R. Yehuda HaNasi and the Roman Antoninus always having chazeret as part of their meals.</fn> which mention assorted appetizers as being part of "סדר הסעודה". Thus, for example,&#160;<a href="ToseftaBerakhot4-8" data-aht="source">Tosefta Berakhot 4:8</a>, mentions a series of three "פרפריות" that would be served to guests. As the source speaks of washing hands, it further seems that these were normally dipped in some sort of liquid (as only then would ritual hand-washing be required). Such festive meals likely served as the model for the Seder,<fn>Sh. and Z. Safrai, הגדת חז"ל, (Jerusalem, 1998): 23. Other scholars have suggested that the Seder was modeled after the Greco-Roman banquets of the Rabbinic period, which the Rabbis adapted for their purposes. Since appetizers, including lettuce, were part of that meal, the practice was incorporated into the Seder as well.<br/>See S. Stein, "The Influence of Symposia Literature on the Literary Form of the Pesah Haggadah" in The Journal of Jewish Studies 8 (1957): 13-44, who points to many similarities between the Seder and the Hellenistic symposium relating to table manners, food habits and modes of discussion. Cf. B. Bokser, The Origins of the Seder, (California, 1984):50-66 who attempts to highlight what was nonetheless unique about the Seder, and Y. Tabory, "פסח דורות" (Tel Aviv, 1996):367-377, who distinguishes between the customs which parallel, draw from, or intentionally deviate from the symposia.</fn> and thus, in its earliest stages, the "vegetable dipping" of Karpas likely had no religious significance.&#160; It was simply the natural opening of the meal, meant to whet the appetite for later courses.<fn>See M. Ish Shalom (מאיר עין על סדר והגדה של ילי פסח) who associates the custom of being "מְטַבֵּל בַּחֲזֶרֶת" with the year-round custom to eat assorted vegetables before the main meal, though he suggests that there was an intentional switch in the normal order so as to spark the children's curiosity.</fn>&#160; Lettuce might be mentioned explicitly, since it was a common appetizer.<fn>The gemara, however, suggests that the Mishna only advocates using chazeret if no other vegetable is found.</fn></p>
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<p>In the Mishnaic period it was a common practice in Israel that festive meals began with a&#160; series of appetizers. This is attested to in several Tannaitic passages,<fn>See, for instance, <a href="ToseftaPesachim10-4" data-aht="source">Tosefta Pesachim 10:4</a>, <a href="ToseftaPesachim10-9" data-aht="source">Tosefta Pesachim 10:9</a>, <a href="YerushalmiBerakhot6-6" data-aht="source">Yerushalmi Berakhot 6:6</a>. Cf. <a href="BavliAvodahZarah11a" data-aht="source">Bavli Avodah Zarah 11a</a> which speaks of R. Yehuda HaNasi and the Roman Antoninus always having chazeret as part of their meals.</fn> which mention assorted appetizers as being part of "סדר הסעודה". Thus, for example,&#160;<a href="ToseftaBerakhot4-8" data-aht="source">Tosefta Berakhot 4:8</a>, mentions a series of three "פרפריות" that would be served to guests. As the source speaks of washing hands, it further seems that these were normally dipped in some sort of liquid (as only then would ritual hand-washing be required). Such festive meals likely served as the model for the Seder,<fn>Sh. and Z. Safrai, הגדת חז"ל, (Jerusalem, 1998): 23. Other scholars have suggested that the Seder was modeled after the Greco-Roman banquets of the Rabbinic period, which the Rabbis adapted for their purposes. Since appetizers, including lettuce, were part of that meal, the practice was incorporated into the Seder as well.<br/>See S. Stein, "The Influence of Symposia Literature on the Literary Form of the Pesah Haggadah" in The Journal of Jewish Studies 8 (1957): 13-44, who points to many similarities between the Seder and the Hellenistic symposium relating to table manners, food habits and modes of discussion. Cf. B. Bokser, The Origins of the Seder, (California, 1984):50-66 who attempts to highlight what was nonetheless unique about the Seder, and Y. Tabory, "פסח דורות" (Tel Aviv, 1996):367-377, who distinguishes between the customs which parallel, draw from, or intentionally deviate from the symposia.</fn> and thus, in its earliest stages, the "vegetable dipping" of Karpas likely had no religious significance.&#160; It was simply the natural opening of the meal, meant to whet the appetite for later courses.<fn>See M. Ish Shalom (מאיר עין על סדר והגדה של ילי פסח) who associates the custom of being "מְטַבֵּל בַּחֲזֶרֶת" with the year-round custom to eat assorted vegetables before the main meal, though he suggests that there was an intentional switch in the normal order so as to spark the children's curiosity.</fn>&#160; Lettuce is probably mentioned explicitly, because it was the most common appetizer.<fn>The gemara, however, suggests that the Mishna only advocates using chazeret if no other vegetable is found. See discussion below.</fn></p>
  
 
<h2>Sign for the Children</h2>
 
<h2>Sign for the Children</h2>
<p>In Amoraic times, a different understanding of the custom appears.&#160; Bavli 114b and 117a imply that the dipping was instituted only so that the children will ask: "כי היכי דליהוי היכירא לתינוקות". Though the Bavli is somewhat ambiguous, many Rishonim, including <multilink><a href="RashiPesachim114a" data-aht="source">Rashi</a><a href="RashiPesachim114a" data-aht="source">Pesachim 114a</a><a href="R. Shelomo Yitzchaki (Rashi)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shelomo Yitzchaki</a></multilink>,&#160;<multilink><a href="RashbamPesachim114a" data-aht="source">Rashbam</a><a href="RashbamPesachim114a" data-aht="source">Pesachim 114a</a><a href="R. Shemuel b. Meir (Rashbam)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shemuel b. Meir</a></multilink> and the Raavan</p>
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<p>In Amoraic literature, a different explanation of the custom appears.&#160;&#160;<a href="BavliPesachim114a" data-aht="source">Bavli Pesachim 114a</a> and&#160;<a href="BavliPesachim116a" data-aht="source">116a</a> imply that the first dipping/eating was instituted only so that the children will ask: "כי היכי דליהוי היכירא לתינוקות".&#8206;<fn>Though the Bavli is open to different interpretations, this is how several Rishonim, including <multilink><a href="RashiPesachim114a" data-aht="source">Rashi</a><a href="RashiPesachim114a" data-aht="source">Pesachim 114a</a><a href="R. Shelomo Yitzchaki (Rashi)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shelomo Yitzchaki</a></multilink>,&#160;<multilink><a href="RashbamPesachim114a" data-aht="source">Rashbam</a><a href="RashbamPesachim114a" data-aht="source">Pesachim 114a</a><a href="R. Shemuel b. Meir (Rashbam)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shemuel b. Meir</a></multilink> and the <a href="RaavanBavliPesachim116a" data-aht="source">Raavan</a>, understand it.&#160; They suggest that the Bavli assumes that since eating a vegetable before the main meal was unusual, the practice was instituted only as a means to awaken the children's wonder..</fn>&#160; This new understanding stems from the different forms that meals took in Babylonia and Israel. The dipping of an appetizer was not common practice outside of Israel, so the Bavli did not see being "מְטַבֵּל בַּחֲזֶרֶת" as a normal part of the meal, and needed to explain its presence in the Seder. Thus, the gemara posits that the custom, like other unusual acts done at the seder,&#160; was instituted only to provoke questioning.</p>
 
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Karpas

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Why eat Karpas?

The custom known today as Karpas1 is mentioned briefly in Mishna Pesachim 10:3-4:

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(ג) הֵבִיאוּ לְפָנָיו, מְטַבֵּל בַּחֲזֶרֶת עַד שֶׁהוּא מַגִּיעַ לְפַרְפֶּרֶת הַפַּת.

The passage's language is somewhat difficult, but it appears to speak of eating or dipping2 some food before the main meal.  The Mishna mentions chazeret (lettuce) explicitly, but the truncated phrase "and they brought before him" allows for the possibility that other foods or vegetables were brought as well.  No reason is given for the custom, and at first glance it would seem to have nothing to do with Pesach and the story of the Exodus.  Why, then, has the custom been incorporated into the Seder?

First Course

In the Mishnaic period it was a common practice in Israel that festive meals began with a  series of appetizers. This is attested to in several Tannaitic passages,3 which mention assorted appetizers as being part of "סדר הסעודה". Thus, for example, Tosefta Berakhot 4:8, mentions a series of three "פרפריות" that would be served to guests. As the source speaks of washing hands, it further seems that these were normally dipped in some sort of liquid (as only then would ritual hand-washing be required). Such festive meals likely served as the model for the Seder,4 and thus, in its earliest stages, the "vegetable dipping" of Karpas likely had no religious significance.  It was simply the natural opening of the meal, meant to whet the appetite for later courses.5  Lettuce is probably mentioned explicitly, because it was the most common appetizer.6

Sign for the Children

In Amoraic literature, a different explanation of the custom appears.  Bavli Pesachim 114a and 116a imply that the first dipping/eating was instituted only so that the children will ask: "כי היכי דליהוי היכירא לתינוקות".‎7  This new understanding stems from the different forms that meals took in Babylonia and Israel. The dipping of an appetizer was not common practice outside of Israel, so the Bavli did not see being "מְטַבֵּל בַּחֲזֶרֶת" as a normal part of the meal, and needed to explain its presence in the Seder. Thus, the gemara posits that the custom, like other unusual acts done at the seder,  was instituted only to provoke questioning.