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<p>After Shaul's original failure in Gilgal, he repented and was given a second chance.</p>
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<p>After Shaul's original failure in Gilgal, he repented and was given a second chance.&#160; Only after repeating his mistake did he lose the kingship for good.</p>
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<mekorot><multilink><a href="RadakShemuelI15-28" data-aht="source">Radak # 1</a><a href="RadakShemuelI15-28" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 15:28</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Kimchi</a></multilink></mekorot>
 
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<p>In Chapter 15, Shaul lost the possibility of forming a dynasty, whereas in Chapter 15 his own kingship was cut short.</p>
 
<p>In Chapter 15, Shaul lost the possibility of forming a dynasty, whereas in Chapter 15 his own kingship was cut short.</p>
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<mekorot><multilink><a href="RadakShemuelI15-28" data-aht="source">Radak #2</a><a href="RadakShemuelI15-28" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 15:28</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Kimchi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RalbagShemuelI15-23" data-aht="source">Ralbag</a><a href="RalbagShemuelI15-23" data-aht="source">Shemuel I 15:23</a><a href="R. Levi b. Gershom (Ralbag, Gersonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Levi b. Gershom</a></multilink></mekorot>
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<point><b>"עַתָּה הֵכִין י"י אֶת מַמְלַכְתְּךָ אֶל יִשְׂרָאֵל עַד עוֹלָם."</b> – In Chapter 13 Shemuel speaks about losing the possibility of "eternal kingship" (עַד עוֹלָם), suggesting that he was not speaking of Shaul's personal reign but many generations worth of rulers.</point>
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<point><b>"וַיִּמְאָסְךָ י"י מִהְיוֹת מֶלֶךְ "</b> – In Chapter 15, Shemuel says to Shaul that Hashem has rejected him ("וַיִּמְאָסְ<b>ךָ</b>") from being king, focusing on the individual Shaul, rather than his dynasty</point>
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<point>Radak points to the fact that in Chpater 28, when Shemuel is revived from the dead he only points to Shau;s action in Amalek as having caused the transfer of kingship to David, teaching that it was the final straw.&#160; "</point>
 
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<category>Human versus Divine Declaration
 
<category>Human versus Divine Declaration

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Losing the Kingship Twice?

Exegetical Approaches

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Given Second Chance

After Shaul's original failure in Gilgal, he repented and was given a second chance.  Only after repeating his mistake did he lose the kingship for good.

Two Stages

In Chapter 15, Shaul lost the possibility of forming a dynasty, whereas in Chapter 15 his own kingship was cut short.

"עַתָּה הֵכִין י"י אֶת מַמְלַכְתְּךָ אֶל יִשְׂרָאֵל עַד עוֹלָם." – In Chapter 13 Shemuel speaks about losing the possibility of "eternal kingship" (עַד עוֹלָם), suggesting that he was not speaking of Shaul's personal reign but many generations worth of rulers.
"וַיִּמְאָסְךָ י"י מִהְיוֹת מֶלֶךְ " – In Chapter 15, Shemuel says to Shaul that Hashem has rejected him ("וַיִּמְאָסְךָ") from being king, focusing on the individual Shaul, rather than his dynasty
Radak points to the fact that in Chpater 28, when Shemuel is revived from the dead he only points to Shau;s action in Amalek as having caused the transfer of kingship to David, teaching that it was the final straw.  "

Human versus Divine Declaration