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<p>After Moshe finished negotiating with Reuven and Gad and acquiesced to their request to settle in the lands of Sichon, the tribe of Menashe approached with a personal, distinct request to settle the lands of Og.&#160; This position subdivides regarding when the lands discussed were conquered:</p>
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<p>After Moshe finished negotiating with Reuven and Gad and acquiesced to their request to settle in the lands of Sichon, the tribe of Menashe approached with a personal, distinct request to settle the lands of Og.&#160; This position subdivides regarding when the lands requested were conquered:</p>
 
<opinion>Present Conquests
 
<opinion>Present Conquests
<p>Menashe conquered their territory in the fortieth year, after Reuven and Gad were granted their request to settle on the eastern bank of the Jordan.</p>
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<p>Menashe both asked for and conquered their territory in the fortieth year, after Reuven and Gad were granted their request to settle on the eastern bank of the Jordan.</p>
 
<mekorot><multilink><a href="ShadalBemidbar32-33" data-aht="source">Shadal</a><a href="ShadalBemidbar32-33" data-aht="source">Bemidbar 32:33</a><a href="R. Shemuel David Luzzatto (Shadal)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shemuel David Luzzatto</a></multilink><fn>Shadal touches just briefly on the topic, so much of what is developed below is not found in his commentary, though the points might work with his general approach.</fn></mekorot>
 
<mekorot><multilink><a href="ShadalBemidbar32-33" data-aht="source">Shadal</a><a href="ShadalBemidbar32-33" data-aht="source">Bemidbar 32:33</a><a href="R. Shemuel David Luzzatto (Shadal)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shemuel David Luzzatto</a></multilink><fn>Shadal touches just briefly on the topic, so much of what is developed below is not found in his commentary, though the points might work with his general approach.</fn></mekorot>
<point><b>Why did Menashe need to conquer the land?</b> When describing the conquests over Sihcon and Og in Bemidbar 21, the text shares that the lands of Sichon were settled by Israel (וַיֵּשֶׁב יִשְׂרָאֵל בְּכׇל עָרֵי הָאֱמֹרִי בְּחֶשְׁבּוֹן וּבְכׇל בְּנֹתֶיהָ), while no such statement is made regarding the lands of Og.<fn>The verse simply states, "וַיַּכּוּ אֹתוֹ וְאֶת בָּנָיו...&#160; וַיִּירְשׁוּ אֶת אַרְצוֹ" without mentioning that they also settled in the area.</fn> As such, there were likely areas in this northern region that still housed the original inhabitants. This would explain why Reuven and Gad request only the lands of Sichon. It is only Menashe who later adds a request for the lands of Og, as they are willing to finish conquering its cities.<fn>See Y. Ben-Shem, "הלכה ומציאות בהתנחלות שבטי ישראל" who goes further to suggest that these conquests were done without the authority of Moshe and against his will, in an act of rebellion. This was taking place exactly as Moshe was negotiating with Reuven and Gad, and, in fact, influenced Moshe's agreement to that request. In his efforts to prevent civil war, Moshe made a compromise with the two tribes mainly so that he could have Menashe join in the agreement. Y. Ben Shem uses this theory to explain the disproportionately large inheritance of Menashe and further suggests that the later emphasis on equal inheritances in <a href="Bemidbar33-54" data-aht="source">Bemidbar 33</a> and&#160;<a href="Bemidbar35-8" data-aht="source">Bemidbar 35</a> are a direct reaction to this event.</fn></point>
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<point><b>Why did Menashe need to conquer the land?</b> When describing the conquests over Sihcon and Og in Bemidbar 21, the text shares that the lands of Sichon were not just conquered, but also settled by Israel (וַיֵּשֶׁב יִשְׂרָאֵל בְּכׇל עָרֵי הָאֱמֹרִי בְּחֶשְׁבּוֹן וּבְכׇל בְּנֹתֶיהָ).&#160; No such statement is made regarding the lands of Og.<fn>The verse simply states, "וַיַּכּוּ אֹתוֹ וְאֶת בָּנָיו...&#160; וַיִּירְשׁוּ אֶת אַרְצוֹ" without mentioning that they also settled in the area.</fn> As such, there were likely areas in this northern region that still housed the original inhabitants. This would explain why Reuven and Gad request only the lands of Sichon. It is only Menashe who later adds a request for the lands of Og, as they are willing to finish conquering its cities.<fn>See Y. Ben-Shem, "הלכה ומציאות בהתנחלות שבטי ישראל" who goes further to suggest that these conquests were done without the authority of Moshe and against his will, in an act of rebellion. This was taking place exactly as Moshe was negotiating with Reuven and Gad, and, in fact, influenced Moshe's agreement to that request. In his efforts to prevent civil war, Moshe made a compromise with the two tribes mainly so that he could have Menashe join in the agreement. Y. Ben Shem uses this theory to explain the disproportionately large inheritance of Menashe and further suggests that the later emphasis on equal inheritances in <a href="Bemidbar33-54" data-aht="source">Bemidbar 33</a> and&#160;<a href="Bemidbar35-8" data-aht="source">Bemidbar 35</a> are a direct reaction to this event.</fn></point>
 
<point><b>Why wait?</b> This approach can offer one of two somewhat opposite approaches to this question:<br/>
 
<point><b>Why wait?</b> This approach can offer one of two somewhat opposite approaches to this question:<br/>
 
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<point><b>Disproportionate inheritance</b></point>
 
<point><b>Disproportionate inheritance</b></point>
<point><b>Yair and Machir, the sons of Menashe</b> – This position could explain, like Ibn Ezra, that the verse is referring not to Machir or Yair themselves, but rather to their descendants.</point>
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<point><b>Yair and Machir, the sons of Menashe</b> – This position could explain, like&#160;<multilink><a href="IbnEzraBemidbar32-40" data-aht="source">Ibn Ezra,</a><a href="IbnEzraBemidbar32-40" data-aht="source">Bemidbar 32:40</a><a href="R. Avraham ibn Ezra" data-aht="parshan">About R. Avraham ibn Ezra</a></multilink> that the verse is referring not to Machir or Yair themselves, but rather to their descendants.</point>
 
<point><b>Independence in the Wilderness</b> – This approach makes one question the level of independence of the tribes in the Wilderness.&#160; Did they have permission to go off on their own and make personal conquests?</point>
 
<point><b>Independence in the Wilderness</b> – This approach makes one question the level of independence of the tribes in the Wilderness.&#160; Did they have permission to go off on their own and make personal conquests?</point>
 
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<opinion>Previous Conquests
 
<opinion>Previous Conquests
<p>The cities had been conquered by the tribe of Menashe much earlier, during the era of Yosef's reign in Egypt.</p>
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<p>The cities Menashe requested had been conquered by the tribe of Menashe much earlier, during the era of Yosef's reign in Egypt.</p>
 
<mekorot>Student of R. Saadia, opinion brought by <multilink><a href="AbarbanelBemidbar32" data-aht="source">Abarbanel</a><a href="AbarbanelBemidbar32" data-aht="source">Bemidbar 32</a><a href="R. Yitzchak Abarbanel" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yitzchak Abarbanel</a></multilink></mekorot>
 
<mekorot>Student of R. Saadia, opinion brought by <multilink><a href="AbarbanelBemidbar32" data-aht="source">Abarbanel</a><a href="AbarbanelBemidbar32" data-aht="source">Bemidbar 32</a><a href="R. Yitzchak Abarbanel" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yitzchak Abarbanel</a></multilink></mekorot>
 
<point><b>The original conquest</b><ul>
 
<point><b>The original conquest</b><ul>

Version as of 13:31, 14 January 2017

Menashe's Joining of Reuven and Gad

Exegetical Approaches

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Individual Request

After Moshe finished negotiating with Reuven and Gad and acquiesced to their request to settle in the lands of Sichon, the tribe of Menashe approached with a personal, distinct request to settle the lands of Og.  This position subdivides regarding when the lands requested were conquered:

Present Conquests

Menashe both asked for and conquered their territory in the fortieth year, after Reuven and Gad were granted their request to settle on the eastern bank of the Jordan.

Why did Menashe need to conquer the land? When describing the conquests over Sihcon and Og in Bemidbar 21, the text shares that the lands of Sichon were not just conquered, but also settled by Israel (וַיֵּשֶׁב יִשְׂרָאֵל בְּכׇל עָרֵי הָאֱמֹרִי בְּחֶשְׁבּוֹן וּבְכׇל בְּנֹתֶיהָ).  No such statement is made regarding the lands of Og.2 As such, there were likely areas in this northern region that still housed the original inhabitants. This would explain why Reuven and Gad request only the lands of Sichon. It is only Menashe who later adds a request for the lands of Og, as they are willing to finish conquering its cities.3
Why wait? This approach can offer one of two somewhat opposite approaches to this question:
  • It is possible that the tribe of Menashe was wary of Moshe's reaction to a request to settle lands east of the Jordan, recognizing that he might find the petition a problematic and a rejection of the Promised Land. They, therefore, decided to wait to gauge his response to Reuven and Gad before asking for their own territory.4
  • Conversely, it is possible that Menashe intentionally separated themselves from the problematic petition of Reuven and Gad, since they viewed their own request, in contrast, as a legitimate one.  Prof. Elitzur5 suggests that the lands of Sichon and Og had very different statuses. While the Bashan was considered part of the Promised Land (and thus not problematic to settle), the southern territory of Sichon was not.6
Why did they want the territory?
  • Cattle – It is possible, that like Reuven and Gad, these clans of Menashe also had much cattle and desired the grazing land east of the Jordan. 
  • Intended inheritance – Prof. Elitzur suggests, instead, that the tribes knew of their future inheritances, so Menashe asked for the Bashan because it was his intended portion.7
  • Preempt later problems – Menachem b. Yashar8 raises a similar possibility, but suggests that Menashe was aware only that the region around Shekhem was promised to them.9 Knowing that the area was hilly and not well-suited to agriculture, and, moreover, that they were very numerous, they thought to resolve the issue ahead of time, by requesting an extra inheritance.
Different conditions?
  • It is possible that Moshe does not make Menashe's settlement contingent on joining the rest of the nation in the Conquest, since unlike Reuven and Gad, they were settling areas conquered by themselves and not simply asking to enjoy the benefits of everyone else's work.
  • Alternatively, despite the text's silence, it is possible that Moshe also had Menashe promise to participate in the campaign against Canaan.  This could be supported by the fact that in Sefer Yehoshau, they also go to war.10
Disproportionate inheritance
Yair and Machir, the sons of Menashe – This position could explain, like Ibn Ezra,Bemidbar 32:40About R. Avraham ibn Ezra that the verse is referring not to Machir or Yair themselves, but rather to their descendants.
Independence in the Wilderness – This approach makes one question the level of independence of the tribes in the Wilderness.  Did they have permission to go off on their own and make personal conquests?

Previous Conquests

The cities Menashe requested had been conquered by the tribe of Menashe much earlier, during the era of Yosef's reign in Egypt.

Sources:Student of R. Saadia, opinion brought by AbarbanelBemidbar 32About R. Yitzchak Abarbanel
The original conquest
  • The student of R. Saadia  explains that Divrei HaYamim I:2:22 speaks of lands conquered by the sons of Menashe when Yosef was a vizier in Egypt. As such, the lands mentioned in Bemidbar 32:39-42 as being conquered by Menashe, had belonged to the tribe of Yosef already for centuries.11
  • Abarbanel, instead, brings an opinion that Yosef had bought these lands in the time of the famine. At some point, they were conquered by Amon, and now that this land was returned to Israel's control, Menashe asked for their rightful inheritance to be returned.
Machir, Yair and Novach – According to R. Saaadia's student, the verses refer not to the descendants of these individuals, but to Menashe's literal sons and grandchildren, as they were the ones who had originally conquered the areas.12
Why did Menashe want the territory? Unlike Reuven and Gad, these families did not want the territory because it was good grazing land but rather because the region had been conquered by and belonged to their ancestors.
Why wait? Since Menashe's claim to the land and request of Moshe had nothing in common  with that of Reuven and Gad, they did not join with them in their petition.
Disproportionate inheritance – The large portion of Menashe is understandable given that they had conquered their territory on their own.
Different conditions? Moshe did not make Menashe's inheritance on the eastern side conditional on joining the Conquest since their claims to the land were centuries old and they were not trying to benefit from the work of others.   In addition, no where did they insinuate that they would not join the nation's campaign, and it might have simply been understood that they were planning to help the nation (and the rest of their tribe) in their conquests regardless.
Between Canaan and Egypt – This position raises fascinating questions regarding the mobility of the tribes when in Egypt.  Did they really have the freedom to come and go to Canaan, hold possessions there, and even make conquests?  If so, why did they stay in Egypt rather than returning to Canaan earlier?

Moshe's Initiative

Moshe, rather than Menashe, requested that some of the tribe join Reuven and Gad east of the Jordan.

Why did Moshe want  Menashe to join?
  • Demographics – Ramban13 claims that after Moshe agreed to Reuven and Gad's request, he realized that the land was too vast for just two tribes and therefore offered a portion to anyone who wished to join.14 
  • Spiritual aid – R. Saba and the Netziv assert that Moshe was motivated by religious concerns. R. Saba posits that Moshe worried that the two tribes were spiritually deficient (as proven by how their materialism led them to reject Canaan for the eastern bank), while the Netziv has him concerned about the lower level of Torah inspiration in their chosen lands. Moshe hoped that the presence of the tribe of Menashe, who were Torah scholars,15 would spiritually fortify the inhabitants.
  • Unity – Alternatively, Moshe wanted to ensure the unity of the nation and prevent the possible alienation of the tribes of Reuven and Gad.  By splitting Menashe and having one half settle on each of the two banks of the Jordan, he hoped to ensure that family and tribal ties would connect the two communities.
Different conditions? Moshe had no need to make Menashe's settlement conditional on joining the conquest since it was not they who asked to live on the eastern bank.  They had never suggested that they would forsake their brethren, so Moshe had no need to emphasize that they must fight together with them.
Why did they need to conquer the land? Ralbag offers two explanations:
  • Extra-conquests post inheritance – After Moshe had them join Reuven and Gad, and gave them their main inheritance, Menashe conquered other outlying cities and surrounding regions and annexed them to their portion.16
  • During the war with Og – Though it is first mentioned now, in actuality Menashe conquered the territories earlier, when the nation as a whole fought against Og (Bemidbar 21). If so, it is possible that the reason Moshe chose them specifically to live in the region was because they were the ones who had previously conquered these cities..
Disproportionate inheritance
  • According to Ramban, Moshe had opened the land to all the tribes equally, so whoever had wanted could have similarly claimed a larger inheritance. Thus, there was no injustice in the disproportionate size of their territory.
  • According to Ralbag, the larger size was due to the fact that they independently conquered more area.
Machir and Yair, the sons of Menashe – As above, this position could say that these refer to Menashe's descendants, and not to literal sons.
What if? According to this position, had it not been for the request of Reuven and Gad, the lands east of the Jordan would not have been settled by the Israelites.  It is not clear whether they would have remained a barren buffer zone, be used for commerce, or perhaps be shared by all the tribes equally as grazing land.

Part of Reuven and Gad's Petition

Despite the silence in the text, Menashe had been part of the negotiations from the beginning.

Sources:R. Avraham Saba #1
Why is Menashe not mentioned? According to R. Avraham Saba, the clans from Menashe were not mentioned earlier due to their relatively small numbers.
Different conditions? R. Saba would likely say that Menashe was given the same conditions as Reuven and Gad (as evidenced by their participation in the Conquest in Sefer Yehoshua) and the text simply did not want to repeat the fact
Not Moshe's initiative – R. Saba maintains that Moshe was very reluctant to settle the eastern bank of the Jordan, viewing the land as impure and the desire to settle there as a rejection of the Promised Land. As such, he does not think that Moshe, on his own, would have ever forced one of the tribes to settle there against their will, leading him to conclude that Menashe themselves must have desired the territory.
Disproportionate inheritance – It is not clear, according to this position, why Menashe should have merited such a large portion. It is possible that Moshe did not want to penalize the other clans of the tribe for the deeds of their brothers.17 Since these clans had not rejected Hashem's Land, he did not want to minimize their portion, even if part of their tribe was inheriting elsewhere.