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<li><b>Unity</b> – Alternatively, Moshe wanted to ensure the unity of the nation and prevent the possible alienation of the tribes of Reuven and Gad.&#160; By splitting Menashe and having one half settle on each of the two banks of the Jordan, he hoped to ensure that family and tribal ties would connect the two communities.</li>
 
<li><b>Unity</b> – Alternatively, Moshe wanted to ensure the unity of the nation and prevent the possible alienation of the tribes of Reuven and Gad.&#160; By splitting Menashe and having one half settle on each of the two banks of the Jordan, he hoped to ensure that family and tribal ties would connect the two communities.</li>
 
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<point><b>Different conditions?</b> Moshe had no need to make Menashe's settlement was conditional on joining the conquest since it was not they who asked to live on the eastern back, but him.&#160; They had never suggested that they would forsake their brethren, so Moshe had no need to emphasize that they must fight.</point>
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<point><b>Different conditions?</b> Moshe had no need to make Menashe's settlement conditional on joining the conquest since it was not they who asked to live on the eastern back, but him.&#160; They had never suggested that they would forsake their brethren, so Moshe had no need to emphasize that they must fight.</point>
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<li>According to Ramban,Moshe had opened the lands to all the tribes equally, so whoever had wanted could have similarly claimed a larger inheritance.</li>
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Version as of 04:01, 12 January 2017

Menashe's Conquests

Exegetical Approaches

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Personal Initiative

After Moshe finished negotiating with Reuven and Gad and acquiesced to their request to settle in the lands of Sichon, the tribe of Menashe approached with a personal, distinct request to settle the lands of Og.  This position subdivides regarding when those lands were conquered:

Present Conquests

Menashe conquered their territory in the fortieth year, close to the time when Reuven and Gad made their request.

When was the Conquest? Ralbag raises two possibilities regarding when the lands were conquered:
  • During the war with Og – When the nation fought against Og (Bemidbar 21), it was the tribe of Menashe who conquered the lands mentioned here.
  • After inheriting  – Alternatively, after Moshe agreed to their request, these clans conquered these outlying cities which surrounded their inheritance.1 It is also possible that they were not simply suburbs, but actually part of the original inheritance of Og (see next point).
Distinction between the land of Sichon and Og – When describing the conquests over Sihcon and Og in Bemidbar 21, the text shares that the lands of Sichon were settled by Israel (וַיֵּשֶׁב יִשְׂרָאֵל בְּכׇל עָרֵי הָאֱמֹרִי בְּחֶשְׁבּוֹן וּבְכׇל בְּנֹתֶיהָ), while no such statement is made regarding the lands of Og.2 This could explain why Reuven and Gad request only the lands of Sichon.  Menashe, on their own, add a request for the lands of Og, which they then must finish conquering.
Why wait? It is possible that the tribe of Menashe was wary of Moshe's reaction to a request to settle lands east of the Jordan, recognizing that he might find the petition problematic. They, therefore, decided to wait to gauge his response to Reuven and Gad before asking for their own territory.
Different conditions?
  • It is possible that Moshe does not make their settlement contingent on joining the rest of the nation in the Conquest, since unlike Reuven and Gad, they were settling areas conquered by themselves and not simply asking to enjoy the benefits of everyone else's work.
  • Alternatively, despite the text's silence, it is possible that Moshe also made these tribes' request conditional on participating in the campaign against Canaan.  This could be supported by the fact that in Sefer Yehoshau, they too go to war.3
Disproportionate inheritance
Yair and Machir, the sons of Menashe – This position could explain, like Ibn Ezra, that the verse is referring not to Machir or Yair themselves, but rather to their descendants.

Previous Conquests

The cities had been conquered by the tribe of Menashe much earlier, either in the Patriarchal period, or during the sojourn in Egypt.

Sources:Student of R. Saadia, opinion brought by Abarbanel

Moshe's Initiative

Moshe, rather than the tribe of Menashe, initiated their settlement, requesting of them to join Reuven and Gad.

Why did Moshe want  Menashe to join Reuven and Gad?
  • Demographics – Ramban claims that after Moshe agreed to Reuven and Gad's request, he realized that the land was too vast for just two tribes and therefore offered a portion to anyone who wished to join.4 
  • Spiritual aid – R. Saba and the Netziv assert that Moshe was motivated by religious concerns. R. Saba posits that Moshe worried that the two tribes were spiritually deficient (as proven by how their materialism led them to reject Canaan for the eastern bank), while the Netziv has him concerned about the lower level of Torah inspiration in their chosen lands. Moshe hoped that the presence of the tribe of Menashe, who were Torah scholars,5 would spiritually fortify the inhabitants.
  • Unity – Alternatively, Moshe wanted to ensure the unity of the nation and prevent the possible alienation of the tribes of Reuven and Gad.  By splitting Menashe and having one half settle on each of the two banks of the Jordan, he hoped to ensure that family and tribal ties would connect the two communities.
Different conditions? Moshe had no need to make Menashe's settlement conditional on joining the conquest since it was not they who asked to live on the eastern back, but him.  They had never suggested that they would forsake their brethren, so Moshe had no need to emphasize that they must fight.
Disproportionate inheritance
  • According to Ramban,Moshe had opened the lands to all the tribes equally, so whoever had wanted could have similarly claimed a larger inheritance.

Part of Reuven and Gad's Petition

Despite the silence in the text, Menashe had been part of the negotiations from the beginning.

Sources:R. Avraham Saba #1
Why are  they not mentioned? According to R. Avraham Saba, the clans from Menashe were not mentioned earlier due to their small numbers.
Motivation – R. Saba maintains that Moshe was very reluctant to settle the eastern bank of the Jordan, viewing the land as impure and the desire to settle there as a rejection of the Promised Land. As such, he does not think that Moshe, on his own, would have ever forced one of the tribes to settle there against their will, leading him to conclude that Menashe must have desired the territory.