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<category>Hashem Can Be Corporeal<fn>R. Saadia quotes "some people" who say that Hashem takes on a physical but not a human form, suggesting that he is either fire, air, space, or the like.</fn>
 
<category>Hashem Can Be Corporeal<fn>R. Saadia quotes "some people" who say that Hashem takes on a physical but not a human form, suggesting that he is either fire, air, space, or the like.</fn>
<mekorot><multilink><a href="MerkavahShelemahShiurKomah" data-aht="source">Merkavah Shelemah Shiur Komah</a><a href="MerkavahShelemahShiurKomah" data-aht="source">Merkavah Shelemah Shiur Komah</a></multilink>,<fn>It is disputed already by the Geonim if Shiur Komah holds authentic citations of R. Yishmael and R. Akiva or this was a later work attributed to them to gain popularity.&#160; See&#160;<multilink><a href="TeshuvotHaGeonimShaareiTeshuvah122" data-aht="source">Shaarei Teshuvah</a><a href="TeshuvotHaGeonimShaareiTeshuvah122" data-aht="source">Teshuvot HaGeonim Shaarei Teshuvah 122</a></multilink> where R. Sherira Gaon and R. Hai Gaon say the work is original but we just don't understand it, and on the other hand the&#160;<multilink><a href="ShutHaRambam117" data-aht="source">Rambam</a><a href="ShutHaRambam117" data-aht="source">Shut HaRambam 117</a></multilink> who says they did not write it.</fn> <multilink><a href="RashiShemot7-4" data-aht="source">Rashi</a><a href="RashiShemot7-4" data-aht="source">Shemot 7:4</a><a href="R. Shelomo Yitzchaki (Rashi)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shelomo Yitzchaki</a></multilink>,<fn>Rashi's stance on the issue is unclear.&#160; See</fn> <multilink><a href="RMosheTakuKetavTamimprintedinOtzarNechmad" data-aht="source">R. Moshe Taku</a><a href="RMosheTakuKetavTamimprintedinOtzarNechmad" data-aht="source">Ketav Tamim (printed in Otzar Nechmad)</a></multilink>, scholars cited by <multilink><a href="RaavadHilkhotTeshuvah3-7" data-aht="source">Raavad</a><a href="RaavadHilkhotTeshuvah3-7" data-aht="source">Hilkhot Teshuvah 3:7</a><a href="R. Avraham b. David (Raavad)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Avraham b. David</a></multilink>, scholars cited by <multilink><a href="RAvrahambHaRambamMilchamotHaShampp48-75" data-aht="source">R. Avraham b. HaRambam</a><a href="RAvrahambHaRambamMilchamotHaShampp48-75" data-aht="source">Milchamot HaSham pp. 48-75</a><a href="R. Avraham Maimonides" data-aht="parshan">About R. Avraham Maimonides</a></multilink></mekorot>
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<mekorot><multilink><a href="MerkavahShelemahShiurKomah" data-aht="source">Merkavah Shelemah Shiur Komah</a><a href="MerkavahShelemahShiurKomah" data-aht="source">Merkavah Shelemah Shiur Komah</a></multilink>,<fn>It is disputed already by the Geonim if Shiur Komah holds authentic citations of R. Yishmael and R. Akiva or this was a later work attributed to them to gain popularity.&#160; See&#160;<multilink><a href="TeshuvotHaGeonimShaareiTeshuvah122" data-aht="source">Shaarei Teshuvah</a><a href="TeshuvotHaGeonimShaareiTeshuvah122" data-aht="source">Teshuvot HaGeonim Shaarei Teshuvah 122</a></multilink> where R. Sherira Gaon and R. Hai Gaon say the work is original but we just don't understand it and R. Yishmael and R. Akiva certainly do not hold of the opinion that Hashem has a body (R. Saadia Gaon further explains the measurement are referring to the light Hashem shows the prophets and not to his body), and on the other hand the&#160;<multilink><a href="ShutHaRambam117" data-aht="source">Rambam</a><a href="ShutHaRambam117" data-aht="source">Shut HaRambam 117</a></multilink> who says they did not write it.</fn> <multilink><a href="RashiShemot7-4" data-aht="source">Rashi</a><a href="RashiShemot7-4" data-aht="source">Shemot 7:4</a><a href="R. Shelomo Yitzchaki (Rashi)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shelomo Yitzchaki</a></multilink>,<fn>Rashi's stance on the issue is unclear.&#160; See</fn> <multilink><a href="RMosheTakuKetavTamimprintedinOtzarNechmad" data-aht="source">R. Moshe Taku</a><a href="RMosheTakuKetavTamimprintedinOtzarNechmad" data-aht="source">Ketav Tamim (printed in Otzar Nechmad)</a></multilink>, scholars cited by <multilink><a href="RaavadHilkhotTeshuvah3-7" data-aht="source">Raavad</a><a href="RaavadHilkhotTeshuvah3-7" data-aht="source">Hilkhot Teshuvah 3:7</a><a href="R. Avraham b. David (Raavad)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Avraham b. David</a></multilink>, scholars cited by <multilink><a href="RAvrahambHaRambamMilchamotHaShampp48-75" data-aht="source">R. Avraham b. HaRambam</a><a href="RAvrahambHaRambamMilchamotHaShampp48-75" data-aht="source">Milchamot HaSham pp. 48-75</a><a href="R. Avraham Maimonides" data-aht="parshan">About R. Avraham Maimonides</a></multilink></mekorot>
 
<point><b>Anthropomorphic verses</b> – According to this approach it is expected that Tanakh should talk about Hashem as if he has a body.</point>
 
<point><b>Anthropomorphic verses</b> – According to this approach it is expected that Tanakh should talk about Hashem as if he has a body.</point>
<point><b>Hashem is limited</b></point>
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<point><b>Hashem is limited</b> – According to Shiur Komah, Hashem has a body but in different measures than a regular human body and therefore he is not limited.&#160; R. Moshe Taku claims that if Hashem did not have a body He would be limited to not having a body, however, by having the choice Hashem is not limited.</point>
<point><b>"וְאֶל מִי תְדַמְּיוּנִי"</b></point>
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<point><b>"וְאֶל מִי תְדַמְּיוּנִי"</b> – R. Saadia questions that if Hashem is a living being like any human, then there is no way He can say that he is different.&#160; One can either understand according to Shiur Komah, that since Hashem's dimensions are larger to a great extent, He is not considered similar to humans.&#160; Perhaps R. Moshe Taku explains that Hashem can choose if to have a body or not at different points and that is how He is not similar to humans.&#160; One could possibly read the verse that Hashem is not similar to any living being in His capabilities, even if He is similar in His appearance.</point>
 
<point><b>Prophets seeing Hashem</b></point>
 
<point><b>Prophets seeing Hashem</b></point>
 
<point><b>"בְּצַלְמֵנוּ כִּדְמוּתֵנוּ"</b> – R. Moshe Taku cites these verses a proof that Hashem has a body.</point>
 
<point><b>"בְּצַלְמֵנוּ כִּדְמוּתֵנוּ"</b> – R. Moshe Taku cites these verses a proof that Hashem has a body.</point>
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<li>The image Hashem chose for humans.&#160; R. Saadia says we were not created in Hashem's image rather in Hashem's chosen image.</li>
 
<li>The image Hashem chose for humans.&#160; R. Saadia says we were not created in Hashem's image rather in Hashem's chosen image.</li>
 
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<li>In the angels' / Moshe's image –</li>
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<li>In the angels' / Moshe's image – </li>
 
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<point><b>"כִּי לֹא יִרְאַנִי הָאָדָם וָחָי"</b></point>
 
<point><b>"כִּי לֹא יִרְאַנִי הָאָדָם וָחָי"</b></point>

Version as of 01:50, 14 April 2017

Anthropomorphism

Exegetical Approaches

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Hashem Can Be Corporeal1

Anthropomorphic verses – According to this approach it is expected that Tanakh should talk about Hashem as if he has a body.
Hashem is limited – According to Shiur Komah, Hashem has a body but in different measures than a regular human body and therefore he is not limited.  R. Moshe Taku claims that if Hashem did not have a body He would be limited to not having a body, however, by having the choice Hashem is not limited.
"וְאֶל מִי תְדַמְּיוּנִי" – R. Saadia questions that if Hashem is a living being like any human, then there is no way He can say that he is different.  One can either understand according to Shiur Komah, that since Hashem's dimensions are larger to a great extent, He is not considered similar to humans.  Perhaps R. Moshe Taku explains that Hashem can choose if to have a body or not at different points and that is how He is not similar to humans.  One could possibly read the verse that Hashem is not similar to any living being in His capabilities, even if He is similar in His appearance.
Prophets seeing Hashem
"בְּצַלְמֵנוּ כִּדְמוּתֵנוּ" – R. Moshe Taku cites these verses a proof that Hashem has a body.
Outside influences – R. Avraham b. HaRambam

Hashem Is Not Corporeal

Anthropomorphic verses – R. Saadia, Rambam and R. Yosef Albo all maintain that all anthropomorphic language is simply a figure of speech.4  Thus, R. Saadia suggests that Hashem's hand might represent ability, while His eye refers to His providence and His mouth to his commandments.
Why describe Hashem as having a body? The sources maintain that Hashem is represented in anthropomorphic terms to enable people to relate more easily to Him, and to instill in the nation the idea of Hashem's existence.
Prophets seeing Hashem
  • Saw Hashem's glory – R. Saadia5 explains that all the prophets who saw Hashem just saw a bright light from where they heard Hashem. Moshe, who was on a different level, saw a larger light.
  • Prophetic visions – R. Chananel, Ibn Ezra, Rambam.  The prophets6 saw a figure in their imagination or dream, and thought they were seeing Hashem.  They did not actually see any physical vision.7
  • Intellectual understanding – Ralbag.  The prophets got hold of and achieved partially an understanding of Hashem and his actions.
"בְּצַלְמֵנוּ כִּדְמוּתֵנוּ" – The commentators suggest multiple ways of rereading these verses as not to imply that Hashem has an equivalent to a human body:
  • In Hashem's image
    • Humans have a partial similarity8 to Hashem, either in our mental capabilities (Rambam), or in our governance9 and ruling over others (opinion in R. Saadia), in difference from animals.
    • The image Hashem chose for humans.  R. Saadia says we were not created in Hashem's image rather in Hashem's chosen image.
  • In the angels' / Moshe's image –
"כִּי לֹא יִרְאַנִי הָאָדָם וָחָי"
Hashem is limited – R. Saadia notes that Hashem can not be corporeal if he created corporeal beings.