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<p>Parashat Vayishlach opens with Yaakov fearful that Esav is coming to attack with 400 men. When the two actually reunite, however, Esav greets him with a&#160; hug and kiss.&#160; Was the change of heart the result of Yaakov's efforts at appeasement, or is it possible that Yaakov's original evaluation of Esav's intent was erroneous and that Esav had already forgiven his brother?&#160; What is it that enables people to forgive and forget?</p>
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<p>Parashat Vayishlach opens with Yaakov fearful that Esav is coming to attack with 400 men. When the two actually reunite, however, Esav greets him with a&#160; hug and kiss.&#160; Was the change of heart the result of Yaakov's efforts at appeasement, or is it possible that Yaakov's original evaluation of Esav's intent was erroneous and that Esav had already forgiven his brother?&#160; What is it that enables people to forgive and forget?</p><ul>
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<li>השוו את הגישות של <multilink><a href="RadakBereshit33-4" data-aht="source">רד״ק</a><a href="RadakBereshit33-4" data-aht="source">בראשית ל״ג:ד׳</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">אודות ר' דוד קמחי</a></multilink> ו<multilink><a href="RashbamBereshit32-7-8" data-aht="source">רשב״ם</a><a href="RashbamBereshit32-7-8" data-aht="source">בראשית ל״ב:ז׳-ח׳</a><a href="R. Shemuel b. Meir (Rashbam)" data-aht="parshan">אודות ר' שמואל בן מאיר</a></multilink>.&#160; With whom do you agree?</li>
 
<li>השוו את הגישות של <multilink><a href="RadakBereshit33-4" data-aht="source">רד״ק</a><a href="RadakBereshit33-4" data-aht="source">בראשית ל״ג:ד׳</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">אודות ר' דוד קמחי</a></multilink> ו<multilink><a href="RashbamBereshit32-7-8" data-aht="source">רשב״ם</a><a href="RashbamBereshit32-7-8" data-aht="source">בראשית ל״ב:ז׳-ח׳</a><a href="R. Shemuel b. Meir (Rashbam)" data-aht="parshan">אודות ר' שמואל בן מאיר</a></multilink>.&#160; With whom do you agree?</li>
 
<li>Rashbam claims that not only was Yaakov's fear of his brother unwarranted, but that his attempts to flee were punished.&#160; What textual support can you bring for such a position? ראו <a href="Wrestling With Angels and Men" data-aht="page">"שרית עם א-להים ואנשים"</a>.</li>
 
<li>Rashbam claims that not only was Yaakov's fear of his brother unwarranted, but that his attempts to flee were punished.&#160; What textual support can you bring for such a position? ראו <a href="Wrestling With Angels and Men" data-aht="page">"שרית עם א-להים ואנשים"</a>.</li>
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<category>"שָׂרִיתָ עִם אֱ-לֹהִים וְעִם אֲנָשִׁים"
<p>One of the highlights of Parashat Vayishlach is Yaakov's wrestling match with the enigmatic "איש".&#160; Was Yaakov's assailant a person or an angel?&#160; On one hand, he is called a "man" rather than a "מַלְאָךְ", suggesting that he was human.<fn>Note, though, that when referencing our story, הושע י"ב:ד'-ה' calls Yaakov's attacker a "מַלְאָךְ". However, in Tanakh, the word "מַלְאָךְ" can connote either a human emissary or a celestial angel.</fn>&#160; Yet, Yaakov refers to him using the term "אֱלֹהִים", implying that he was some sort of Divine being.<fn>ראו גם <a href="Avraham's Guests – Angels or Men" data-aht="page">האורחים של אברהם – מלאכים או בני אדם?</a> where the same question is raised.&#160; Compare the approaches of commentators there to their positions here.&#160; Are they all consistent?</fn>&#160;</p>
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<p>One of the highlights of Parashat Vayishlach is Yaakov's wrestling match with the enigmatic "איש".&#160; Was Yaakov's assailant a person or an angel?&#160; On one hand, he is called a "man" rather than a "מַלְאָךְ", suggesting that he was human.<fn>Note, though, that when referencing our story, הושע י"ב:ד'-ה' calls Yaakov's attacker a "מַלְאָךְ". However, in Tanakh, the word "מַלְאָךְ" can connote either a human emissary or a celestial angel.</fn>&#160; Yet, Yaakov refers to him using the term "אֱ-לֹהִים", implying that he was some sort of Divine being.<fn>ראו גם <a href="Avraham's Guests – Angels or Men" data-aht="page">האורחים של אברהם – מלאכים או בני אדם?</a> where the same question is raised.&#160; Compare the approaches of commentators there to their positions here.&#160; Are they all consistent?</fn>&#160;</p>
 
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<li>What other evidence can you bring to support either position?<fn><multilink><a href="RambamMorehNevukhim2-42" data-aht="source">רמב״ם</a><a href="RambamMorehNevukhim2-42" data-aht="source">מורה נבוכים ב׳:מ״ב</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Maimon (Rambam, Maimonides)" data-aht="parshan">אודות ר' משה בן מיימון</a></multilink>&#160;and others suggest a middle possibility, claiming that Yaakov saw an angel, but only in a prophetic dream. How do you think they might understand Yaakov's ensuing limp?&#160; See&#160;<multilink><a href="RalbagBereshitBeurHaParashah32-33" data-aht="source">רלב״ג</a><a href="RalbagBereshitBeurHaParashah32-33" data-aht="source">בראשית ביאור הפרשה ל״ב:ל״ג</a><a href="R. Levi b. Gershom (Ralbag, Gersonides)" data-aht="parshan">אודות ר' לוי בן גרשום</a></multilink> for two possible solutions.</fn></li>
 
<li>What other evidence can you bring to support either position?<fn><multilink><a href="RambamMorehNevukhim2-42" data-aht="source">רמב״ם</a><a href="RambamMorehNevukhim2-42" data-aht="source">מורה נבוכים ב׳:מ״ב</a><a href="R. Moshe b. Maimon (Rambam, Maimonides)" data-aht="parshan">אודות ר' משה בן מיימון</a></multilink>&#160;and others suggest a middle possibility, claiming that Yaakov saw an angel, but only in a prophetic dream. How do you think they might understand Yaakov's ensuing limp?&#160; See&#160;<multilink><a href="RalbagBereshitBeurHaParashah32-33" data-aht="source">רלב״ג</a><a href="RalbagBereshitBeurHaParashah32-33" data-aht="source">בראשית ביאור הפרשה ל״ב:ל״ג</a><a href="R. Levi b. Gershom (Ralbag, Gersonides)" data-aht="parshan">אודות ר' לוי בן גרשום</a></multilink> for two possible solutions.</fn></li>
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<category>Did a "Plan B" Replace "Plan A"?
 
<category>Did a "Plan B" Replace "Plan A"?
<p>Often, when a character in Tanakh says that they will perform a certain action, we assume that they followed through on this original plan, not considering the possibility that intervening events might have impacted their decision, leading to a "Plan B".&#160; Conversely, the "omniscient reader", knowing the end of the story, often assumes that the Biblical characters were aware of the nding as well and acted accordingly, when it is possible that they had a different scenario in mind altogether.&#160; In both sets of cases, positing a change in plan might explain otherwise difficult aspects of the narrative.</p>
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<p>Often, when a character in Tanakh says that they will perform a certain action, we assume that they followed through on this original plan, not considering the possibility that intervening events might have impacted their decision, leading to a "Plan B".&#160; Conversely, the "omniscient reader", knowing the end of the story, often assumes that the Biblical characters were aware of the nding as well and acted accordingly, when it is possible that they had a different scenario in mind altogether.&#160; In both sets of cases, positing a change in plan might explain otherwise difficult aspects of the narrative.</p><ul>
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<li>A case in point might be <a href="Yaakov's Dividing of his Camp" data-aht="page">יעקב מחלק את מחנהו</a>.&#160; He originally speaks about doing so בפרק ל"ב, אך בפרק ל"ג there is no evidence of two distinct camps. To resolve the apparent contradiction,&#160;<multilink><a href="RAvrahambHaRambamBereshit33-1" data-aht="source">ר׳ אברהם בן הרמב״ם</a><a href="RAvrahambHaRambamBereshit33-1" data-aht="source">בראשית ל״ג:א׳</a><a href="R. Avraham Maimonides" data-aht="parshan">אודות ר' אברהם בן הרמב"ם</a></multilink> asserts that intervening events caused Yaakov to change his mind, while Rashbam suggests that shifting circumstances prevented him from acting as he had anticipated.</li>
 
<li>A case in point might be <a href="Yaakov's Dividing of his Camp" data-aht="page">יעקב מחלק את מחנהו</a>.&#160; He originally speaks about doing so בפרק ל"ב, אך בפרק ל"ג there is no evidence of two distinct camps. To resolve the apparent contradiction,&#160;<multilink><a href="RAvrahambHaRambamBereshit33-1" data-aht="source">ר׳ אברהם בן הרמב״ם</a><a href="RAvrahambHaRambamBereshit33-1" data-aht="source">בראשית ל״ג:א׳</a><a href="R. Avraham Maimonides" data-aht="parshan">אודות ר' אברהם בן הרמב"ם</a></multilink> asserts that intervening events caused Yaakov to change his mind, while Rashbam suggests that shifting circumstances prevented him from acting as he had anticipated.</li>
 
<li>Challenge your family to think of other cases in Tanakh in which positing a change in plan could solve textual difficulties or shed new light on a story.<fn>Here are a few of many possible examples:<br/>
 
<li>Challenge your family to think of other cases in Tanakh in which positing a change in plan could solve textual difficulties or shed new light on a story.<fn>Here are a few of many possible examples:<br/>
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<category>"כל האומר ראובן חטא..."
 
<category>"כל האומר ראובן חטא..."
<p>ב<a href="BavliShabbat55b" data-aht="source">בבלי שבת</a>, ר' יונתן points to several Biblical characters who, from a simple reading of Tanakh, appear to have sinned, and declares them innocent.<fn>ראו אמרתו המפורסמת, "כל האומר _ חטא אינו אלא טועה".</fn>&#160; Included in the list are: ראובן, בני עלי, בני שמואל, דוד, ושלמה.</p>
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<p>ב<a href="BavliShabbat55b" data-aht="source">בבלי שבת</a>, ר' יונתן points to several Biblical characters who, from a simple reading of Tanakh, appear to have sinned, and declares them innocent.<fn>ראו אמרתו המפורסמת, "כל האומר _ חטא אינו אלא טועה".</fn>&#160; Included in the list are: ראובן, בני עלי, בני שמואל, דוד, ושלמה.</p><ul>
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<li>Are R. Yonatan's words simply an attempt to exonerate figures who are otherwise deemed righteous, an aggadic statement not meant to be taken literally but rather to teach a lesson, or do they simply reflect the true meaning of each story?</li>
 
<li>Are R. Yonatan's words simply an attempt to exonerate figures who are otherwise deemed righteous, an aggadic statement not meant to be taken literally but rather to teach a lesson, or do they simply reflect the true meaning of each story?</li>
 
<li>What textual basis can be brought to suggest that each of the above characters might not be as guilty as initially perceived?&#160; If each is in fact innocent, why does the text not explicitly present them as such?&#160;</li>
 
<li>What textual basis can be brought to suggest that each of the above characters might not be as guilty as initially perceived?&#160; If each is in fact innocent, why does the text not explicitly present them as such?&#160;</li>
 
<li>There are many instances in which commentators defend seemingly problematic actions of our forefathers.&#160; The above cases, though, are somewhat unique as most of the characters are explicitly chastised and even punished.&#160; In such cases, too, need one feel obligated to defend our ancestors?</li>
 
<li>There are many instances in which commentators defend seemingly problematic actions of our forefathers.&#160; The above cases, though, are somewhat unique as most of the characters are explicitly chastised and even punished.&#160; In such cases, too, need one feel obligated to defend our ancestors?</li>
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</ul><p>ראו <a href="Reuven and Bilhah" data-aht="page">מעשה ראובן ובלהה</a> ו<a href="David and Batsheva" data-aht="page">דוד ובת-שבע</a> להרחבה.</p>
<p>ראו <a href="Reuven and Bilhah" data-aht="page">מעשה ראובן ובלהה</a> ו<a href="David and Batsheva" data-aht="page">דוד ובת-שבע</a> להרחבה.</p>
 
 
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Version as of 12:37, 24 July 2019

נושאים לשולחן שבת – פרשת וישלח

שמעון ולוי On Trial

How do you evaluate Shimon and Levi's slaughter of the city of Shekhem?  Should their actions be justified as an appropriate avenging of their sister's honor or be condemned as overly harsh and cruel?

  • With which of the above do you agree?  ראו חטא שכם ותגובת בני יעקב and debate the various possibilities at your Shabbat table.
  • The story raises the question of the relative benefits of policies of restraint versus active deterrence, the morality of collective punishment versus targeted killings, and the appropriate response to the use of human shields. Discuss these issues with your family as they relate both to the actions of the brothers and to contemporary controversies.

Esav: Friend or Foe?

Parashat Vayishlach opens with Yaakov fearful that Esav is coming to attack with 400 men. When the two actually reunite, however, Esav greets him with a  hug and kiss.  Was the change of heart the result of Yaakov's efforts at appeasement, or is it possible that Yaakov's original evaluation of Esav's intent was erroneous and that Esav had already forgiven his brother?  What is it that enables people to forgive and forget?

"שָׂרִיתָ עִם אֱ-לֹהִים וְעִם אֲנָשִׁים"

One of the highlights of Parashat Vayishlach is Yaakov's wrestling match with the enigmatic "איש".  Was Yaakov's assailant a person or an angel?  On one hand, he is called a "man" rather than a "מַלְאָךְ", suggesting that he was human.1  Yet, Yaakov refers to him using the term "אֱ-לֹהִים", implying that he was some sort of Divine being.2 

  • What other evidence can you bring to support either position?3
  • If the assailant was a celestial being, was he Divinely dispatched or acting on his own?  If the former, why would Hashem send a messenger to hurt Yaakov?  If the latter, and the angel was acting in Esav's, rather than Yaakov's, best interests,4 does this imply that angels have free will?
  • Explore various understandings of the episode in "שרית עם א-להים ואנשים". What can you glean from each commentator regarding their personal beliefs about angels?

Did a "Plan B" Replace "Plan A"?

Often, when a character in Tanakh says that they will perform a certain action, we assume that they followed through on this original plan, not considering the possibility that intervening events might have impacted their decision, leading to a "Plan B".  Conversely, the "omniscient reader", knowing the end of the story, often assumes that the Biblical characters were aware of the nding as well and acted accordingly, when it is possible that they had a different scenario in mind altogether.  In both sets of cases, positing a change in plan might explain otherwise difficult aspects of the narrative.

"כל האומר ראובן חטא..."

בבבלי שבת, ר' יונתן points to several Biblical characters who, from a simple reading of Tanakh, appear to have sinned, and declares them innocent.6  Included in the list are: ראובן, בני עלי, בני שמואל, דוד, ושלמה.

  • Are R. Yonatan's words simply an attempt to exonerate figures who are otherwise deemed righteous, an aggadic statement not meant to be taken literally but rather to teach a lesson, or do they simply reflect the true meaning of each story?
  • What textual basis can be brought to suggest that each of the above characters might not be as guilty as initially perceived?  If each is in fact innocent, why does the text not explicitly present them as such? 
  • There are many instances in which commentators defend seemingly problematic actions of our forefathers.  The above cases, though, are somewhat unique as most of the characters are explicitly chastised and even punished.  In such cases, too, need one feel obligated to defend our ancestors?

ראו מעשה ראובן ובלהה ודוד ובת-שבע להרחבה.

עוד...

לעוד נושאים בפרשה, ראו: רשימת נושאים – פרשת וישלח.