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<p>Tamar was speaking the truth as there was no legal impediment to her marrying Amnon.</p> | <p>Tamar was speaking the truth as there was no legal impediment to her marrying Amnon.</p> | ||
| − | <mekorot>Rav in <multilink><a href="BavliSanhedrin21a" data-aht="source">Bavli Sanhedrin</a><a href="BavliSanhedrin21a" data-aht="source">Sanhedrin 21a</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RashiShemuelII13-13" data-aht="source">Rashi</a><a href="RashiShemuelII13-1" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:1</a><a href="RashiShemuelII13-13" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:13</a><a href="R. Shelomo Yitzchaki (Rashi)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shelomo Yitzchaki</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="AttributedtoRYosefKaraShemuelII13-2" data-aht="source">Attributed to R. Yosef Kara</a><a href="AttributedtoRYosefKaraShemuelII13-2" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:2</a><a href="Attributed to R. Yosef Kara" data-aht="parshan">About Attributed to R. Yosef Kara</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="TosafotSanhedrin21a" data-aht="source">Tosafot</a><a href="TosafotSanhedrin21a" data-aht="source">Sanhedrin 21a</a><a href="Ba'alei HaTosafot" data-aht="parshan">About Ba'alei HaTosafot</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RadakShemuelII13-1" data-aht="source">Radak</a><a href="RadakShemuelII13-1" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:1</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Kimchi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RidShemuelII13-1-2" data-aht="source">Rid</a><a href="RidShemuelII13-1-2" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:1-2</a><a href="R. Yeshayah of Trani (Rid)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yeshayah of Trani</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RalbagShemuelII13-12" data-aht="source">Ralbag</a><a href="RalbagShemuelII13-12" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:12</a><a href="RalbagShemuelIIToalot13-13" data-aht="source">Shemuel II Toalot 13:13</a><a href="R. Levi b. Gershom (Ralbag, Gersonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Levi b. Gershom</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="MetzudatDavidShemuelII13-1-4" data-aht="source">Metzudot</a><a href="MetzudatDavidShemuelII13-1-4" data-aht="source">Metzudat David Shemuel II 13:1-4</a><a href="R. David Altschuler (Metzudot)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Altschuler</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="MalbimShemuelII13-1-6" data-aht="source">Malbim</a><a href="MalbimShemuelII13-1-6" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:1-6</a><a href="R. Meir Leibush Weiser (Malbim)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Meir Leibush Weiser</a></multilink></mekorot> | + | <opinion>No legal relationship |
| − | + | <mekorot>Rav in <multilink><a href="BavliSanhedrin21a" data-aht="source">Bavli Sanhedrin</a><a href="BavliSanhedrin21a" data-aht="source">Sanhedrin 21a</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RashiShemuelII13-13" data-aht="source">Rashi</a><a href="RashiShemuelII13-1" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:1</a><a href="RashiShemuelII13-13" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:13</a><a href="R. Shelomo Yitzchaki (Rashi)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shelomo Yitzchaki</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="AttributedtoRYosefKaraShemuelII13-2" data-aht="source">Attributed to R. Yosef Kara</a><a href="AttributedtoRYosefKaraShemuelII13-2" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:2</a><a href="Attributed to R. Yosef Kara" data-aht="parshan">About Attributed to R. Yosef Kara</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="TosafotSanhedrin21a" data-aht="source">Tosafot</a><a href="TosafotSanhedrin21a" data-aht="source">Sanhedrin 21a</a><a href="Ba'alei HaTosafot" data-aht="parshan">About Ba'alei HaTosafot</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RadakShemuelII13-1" data-aht="source">Radak</a><a href="RadakShemuelII13-1" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:1</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Kimchi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RidShemuelII13-1-2" data-aht="source">Rid</a><a href="RidShemuelII13-1-2" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:1-2</a><a href="R. Yeshayah of Trani (Rid)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yeshayah of Trani</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RalbagShemuelII13-12" data-aht="source">Ralbag</a><a href="RalbagShemuelII13-12" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:12</a><a href="RalbagShemuelIIToalot13-13" data-aht="source">Shemuel II Toalot 13:13</a><a href="R. Levi b. Gershom (Ralbag, Gersonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Levi b. Gershom</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="MetzudatDavidShemuelII13-1-4" data-aht="source">Metzudot</a><a href="MetzudatDavidShemuelII13-1-4" data-aht="source">Metzudat David Shemuel II 13:1-4</a><a href="R. David Altschuler (Metzudot)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Altschuler</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="MalbimShemuelII13-1-6" data-aht="source">Malbim</a><a href="MalbimShemuelII13-1-6" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:1-6</a><a href="R. Meir Leibush Weiser (Malbim)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Meir Leibush Weiser</a></multilink></mekorot> | |
| + | <point><b>Relationship to Avshalom</b> – These sources split regarding whether Tamar was a full or half sibling of Avshalom:<br/> | ||
<ul> | <ul> | ||
<li><b>Full sibling</b> – Rav in Sanhedrin, Rashi, Radak, and Ralbag assume that Avshalom and Tamar shared both a mother (Ma'akhah) and father (David).  However, they posit that Ma'akhah was a beautiful captive woman who bore Tamar from relations with David prior to her conversion, giving her a unique status.</li> | <li><b>Full sibling</b> – Rav in Sanhedrin, Rashi, Radak, and Ralbag assume that Avshalom and Tamar shared both a mother (Ma'akhah) and father (David).  However, they posit that Ma'akhah was a beautiful captive woman who bore Tamar from relations with David prior to her conversion, giving her a unique status.</li> | ||
<li><b>Half sibling</b> – The commentary attributed to R"Y Kara, Tosafot and the Rid all suggest that Tamar was born from the same mother as Avshalom (Maakhah), but a different father.<fn>Though these sources do not elaborate, they are likely assuming that Tamar was born to Maakhah before David married her, and Tamar was brought to the palace when David wed her mother.</fn></li> | <li><b>Half sibling</b> – The commentary attributed to R"Y Kara, Tosafot and the Rid all suggest that Tamar was born from the same mother as Avshalom (Maakhah), but a different father.<fn>Though these sources do not elaborate, they are likely assuming that Tamar was born to Maakhah before David married her, and Tamar was brought to the palace when David wed her mother.</fn></li> | ||
</ul></point> | </ul></point> | ||
| − | + | <point><b>Relationship to Amnon</b> – In accordance with their positions above, these sources disagree regarding the relationship between Amnon and Tamar:<br/> | |
<ul> | <ul> | ||
<li><b>Biological, but not halakhic, half sister</b> – Rav, Rashi, Radak, and Ralbag claim that though David was the biological father of both Amnon and Tamar, since Tamar was conceived before Ma'akhah converted,<fn>See above that they assume that Ma'akhah was a beautiful captive women who conceived Tamar when she had relations with David prior to her conversion.</fn> she was not legally considered David's daughter. As such, she was also not officially Amnon's sister.  </li> | <li><b>Biological, but not halakhic, half sister</b> – Rav, Rashi, Radak, and Ralbag claim that though David was the biological father of both Amnon and Tamar, since Tamar was conceived before Ma'akhah converted,<fn>See above that they assume that Ma'akhah was a beautiful captive women who conceived Tamar when she had relations with David prior to her conversion.</fn> she was not legally considered David's daughter. As such, she was also not officially Amnon's sister.  </li> | ||
| − | <li><b>No blood relation</b> – | + | <li><b>No blood relation</b> – The other sources all maintain that Tamar and Amnon were not related at all, sharing neither a father nor a mother.</li> |
</ul></point> | </ul></point> | ||
| − | + | <point><b>"תָּמָר אֲחֹתִי"</b> – Tamar is referred to as Amnon's sister either because biologically they really are related, or because despite not</point> | |
| − | + | <point><b>Yonadav's intentions</b></point> | |
| − | + | <point><b>Tamar's goal</b></point> | |
| + | <point><b>Amnon's reaction</b></point> | ||
| + | </opinion> | ||
| + | <opinion>No blood relationship | ||
| + | </opinion> | ||
</category> | </category> | ||
<category>Ruse | <category>Ruse | ||
Version as of 09:35, 20 June 2017
Tamar's Plea
Exegetical Approaches
Truth
Tamar was speaking the truth as there was no legal impediment to her marrying Amnon.
No legal relationship
Sources:Rav in Bavli Sanhedrin, Rashi, Attributed to R. Yosef Kara, Tosafot, Radak, Rid, Ralbag, Metzudot, Malbim
Relationship to Avshalom – These sources split regarding whether Tamar was a full or half sibling of Avshalom:
- Full sibling – Rav in Sanhedrin, Rashi, Radak, and Ralbag assume that Avshalom and Tamar shared both a mother (Ma'akhah) and father (David). However, they posit that Ma'akhah was a beautiful captive woman who bore Tamar from relations with David prior to her conversion, giving her a unique status.
- Half sibling – The commentary attributed to R"Y Kara, Tosafot and the Rid all suggest that Tamar was born from the same mother as Avshalom (Maakhah), but a different father.1
Relationship to Amnon – In accordance with their positions above, these sources disagree regarding the relationship between Amnon and Tamar:
- Biological, but not halakhic, half sister – Rav, Rashi, Radak, and Ralbag claim that though David was the biological father of both Amnon and Tamar, since Tamar was conceived before Ma'akhah converted,2 she was not legally considered David's daughter. As such, she was also not officially Amnon's sister.
- No blood relation – The other sources all maintain that Tamar and Amnon were not related at all, sharing neither a father nor a mother.
"תָּמָר אֲחֹתִי" – Tamar is referred to as Amnon's sister either because biologically they really are related, or because despite not
Yonadav's intentions
Tamar's goal
Amnon's reaction
No blood relationship
Ruse
Tamar knew that David would never approve of the marriage, but was grasping at straws hoping that her words would convince Amnon to release her.
Sources:R. Yosef ibn Kaspi #2, Abarbanel
Mistake
Tamar was unaware of the law, and truly believed that David would allow the marriage.
