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<mekorot>Rav in <multilink><a href="BavliSanhedrin21a" data-aht="source">Bavli Sanhedrin</a><a href="BavliSanhedrin21a" data-aht="source">Sanhedrin 21a</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RashiShemuelII13-13" data-aht="source">Rashi</a><a href="RashiShemuelII13-1" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:1</a><a href="RashiShemuelII13-13" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:13</a><a href="R. Shelomo Yitzchaki (Rashi)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shelomo Yitzchaki</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RadakShemuelII13-1" data-aht="source">Radak</a><a href="RadakShemuelII13-1" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:1</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Kimchi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RalbagShemuelII13-12" data-aht="source">Ralbag</a><a href="RalbagShemuelII13-12" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:12</a><a href="RalbagShemuelIIToalot13-13" data-aht="source">Shemuel II Toalot 13:13</a><a href="R. Levi b. Gershom (Ralbag, Gersonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Levi b. Gershom</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="MetzudatDavidShemuelII13-1-4" data-aht="source">Metzudot</a><a href="MetzudatDavidShemuelII13-1-4" data-aht="source">Metzudat David Shemuel II 13:1-4</a><a href="R. David Altschuler (Metzudot)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Altschuler</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="MalbimShemuelII13-1-6" data-aht="source">Malbim</a><a href="MalbimShemuelII13-1-6" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:1-6</a><a href="R. Meir Leibush Weiser (Malbim)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Meir Leibush Weiser</a></multilink></mekorot> | <mekorot>Rav in <multilink><a href="BavliSanhedrin21a" data-aht="source">Bavli Sanhedrin</a><a href="BavliSanhedrin21a" data-aht="source">Sanhedrin 21a</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RashiShemuelII13-13" data-aht="source">Rashi</a><a href="RashiShemuelII13-1" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:1</a><a href="RashiShemuelII13-13" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:13</a><a href="R. Shelomo Yitzchaki (Rashi)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shelomo Yitzchaki</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RadakShemuelII13-1" data-aht="source">Radak</a><a href="RadakShemuelII13-1" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:1</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Kimchi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RalbagShemuelII13-12" data-aht="source">Ralbag</a><a href="RalbagShemuelII13-12" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:12</a><a href="RalbagShemuelIIToalot13-13" data-aht="source">Shemuel II Toalot 13:13</a><a href="R. Levi b. Gershom (Ralbag, Gersonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Levi b. Gershom</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="MetzudatDavidShemuelII13-1-4" data-aht="source">Metzudot</a><a href="MetzudatDavidShemuelII13-1-4" data-aht="source">Metzudat David Shemuel II 13:1-4</a><a href="R. David Altschuler (Metzudot)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Altschuler</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="MalbimShemuelII13-1-6" data-aht="source">Malbim</a><a href="MalbimShemuelII13-1-6" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:1-6</a><a href="R. Meir Leibush Weiser (Malbim)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Meir Leibush Weiser</a></multilink></mekorot> | ||
<point><b>Relationship to Avshalom</b> – Avshalom and Tamar were full siblings, sharing both a mother (Ma'akhah) and father (David).  However, Ma'akhah was a beautiful captive woman who bore Tamar from relations with David prior to her conversion, giving her a unique status.</point> | <point><b>Relationship to Avshalom</b> – Avshalom and Tamar were full siblings, sharing both a mother (Ma'akhah) and father (David).  However, Ma'akhah was a beautiful captive woman who bore Tamar from relations with David prior to her conversion, giving her a unique status.</point> | ||
| − | <point><b>Relationship to Amnon</b> – Though David was the biological father of both Amnon and Tamar, since Tamar was conceived before Ma'akhah converted,<fn>See above that they assume that Ma'akhah was a beautiful captive women who conceived Tamar when she had relations with David prior to her conversion.</fn> she was not legally considered David's daughter. As such, she was Amnon's biological, but not halakhic, sister. | + | <point><b>Relationship to Amnon</b> – Though David was the biological father of both Amnon and Tamar, since Tamar was conceived before Ma'akhah converted,<fn>See above that they assume that Ma'akhah was a beautiful captive women who conceived Tamar when she had relations with David prior to her conversion.</fn> she was not legally considered David's daughter. As such, she was Amnon's biological, but not halakhic, sister.</point> |
<point><b>"תָּמָר אֲחֹתִי"</b> – Tamar is referred to as Amnon's sister throughout the story, because, despite her legal status, she is nonetheless David's daughter.</point> | <point><b>"תָּמָר אֲחֹתִי"</b> – Tamar is referred to as Amnon's sister throughout the story, because, despite her legal status, she is nonetheless David's daughter.</point> | ||
| − | <point><b>Yonadav's intentions</b> – Malbim claims that Yonadav, knowing that Amnon could legitimately marry Tamar, had never intended that he take her by force.</point> | + | <point><b>Yonadav's intentions</b> – Malbim claims that Yonadav, knowing that Amnon could legitimately marry Tamar, had never intended that he take her by force.  He suggested that Amnon talk to his father, assuming that David would realize that Amnon desired Tamar and suggest that they marry.</point> |
<point><b>Tamar's goal</b></point> | <point><b>Tamar's goal</b></point> | ||
<point><b>Amnon's reaction</b></point> | <point><b>Amnon's reaction</b></point> | ||
</opinion> | </opinion> | ||
<opinion>No Blood Relationship | <opinion>No Blood Relationship | ||
| − | <mekorot><multilink><a href="AttributedtoRYosefKaraShemuelII13-2" data-aht="source">Attributed to R. Yosef Kara</a><a href="AttributedtoRYosefKaraShemuelII13-2" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:2</a><a href="Attributed to R. Yosef Kara" data-aht="parshan">About Attributed to R. Yosef Kara</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="TosafotSanhedrin21a" data-aht="source">Tosafot</a><a href="TosafotSanhedrin21a" data-aht="source">Sanhedrin 21a</a><a href="Ba'alei HaTosafot" data-aht="parshan">About Ba'alei HaTosafot</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RidShemuelII13-1-2" data-aht="source">Rid</a><a href="RidShemuelII13-1-2" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:1-2</a><a href="R. Yeshayah of Trani (Rid)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yeshayah of Trani</a></multilink>, </mekorot> | + | <mekorot><multilink><a href="AttributedtoRYosefKaraShemuelII13-2" data-aht="source">Attributed to R. Yosef Kara</a><a href="AttributedtoRYosefKaraShemuelII13-2" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:2</a><a href="Attributed to R. Yosef Kara" data-aht="parshan">About Attributed to R. Yosef Kara</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="TosafotSanhedrin21a" data-aht="source">Tosafot</a><a href="TosafotSanhedrin21a" data-aht="source">Sanhedrin 21a</a><a href="Ba'alei HaTosafot" data-aht="parshan">About Ba'alei HaTosafot</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RidShemuelII13-1-2" data-aht="source">Rid</a><a href="RidShemuelII13-1-2" data-aht="source">Shemuel II 13:1-2</a><a href="R. Yeshayah of Trani (Rid)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yeshayah of Trani</a></multilink>,</mekorot> |
<point><b>Relationship to Avshalom</b> – Tamar was born from the same mother as Avshalom (Ma'akhah), but a different father.<fn>Though these sources do not elaborate, they are likely assuming that Tamar was born to Maakhah before David married her, and Tamar was brought to the palace when David wed her mother.</fn></point> | <point><b>Relationship to Avshalom</b> – Tamar was born from the same mother as Avshalom (Ma'akhah), but a different father.<fn>Though these sources do not elaborate, they are likely assuming that Tamar was born to Maakhah before David married her, and Tamar was brought to the palace when David wed her mother.</fn></point> | ||
<point><b>Relationship to Amnon</b> – Tamar and Amnon were not related at all, sharing neither a father nor a mother.</point> | <point><b>Relationship to Amnon</b> – Tamar and Amnon were not related at all, sharing neither a father nor a mother.</point> | ||
Version as of 12:04, 20 June 2017
Tamar's Plea
Exegetical Approaches
Truth
Tamar was speaking the truth as there was no legal impediment to her marrying Amnon.
No Legal Relationship
Amnon and Tamar were not legally siblings.
Relationship to Avshalom – Avshalom and Tamar were full siblings, sharing both a mother (Ma'akhah) and father (David). However, Ma'akhah was a beautiful captive woman who bore Tamar from relations with David prior to her conversion, giving her a unique status.
Relationship to Amnon – Though David was the biological father of both Amnon and Tamar, since Tamar was conceived before Ma'akhah converted,1 she was not legally considered David's daughter. As such, she was Amnon's biological, but not halakhic, sister.
"תָּמָר אֲחֹתִי" – Tamar is referred to as Amnon's sister throughout the story, because, despite her legal status, she is nonetheless David's daughter.
Yonadav's intentions – Malbim claims that Yonadav, knowing that Amnon could legitimately marry Tamar, had never intended that he take her by force. He suggested that Amnon talk to his father, assuming that David would realize that Amnon desired Tamar and suggest that they marry.
Tamar's goal
Amnon's reaction
No Blood Relationship
Relationship to Avshalom – Tamar was born from the same mother as Avshalom (Ma'akhah), but a different father.2
Relationship to Amnon – Tamar and Amnon were not related at all, sharing neither a father nor a mother.
"תָּמָר אֲחֹתִי" – Even though there were no blood ties between Amnon and Tamar, since Tamar grew up in the palace with all the other children of David, she was treated like, and referred to as a sister.
Ruse
Tamar knew that David would never approve of the marriage, but was grasping at straws hoping that her words would convince Amnon to release her.
Sources:R. Yosef ibn Kaspi #2, Abarbanel
Mistake
Tamar was unaware of the law, and truly believed that David would allow the marriage.
