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<point><b>הנביא מבית אל: True or false  prophet?</b> According to this approach, the prophet from Beit El was a false prophet.<fn>See <multilink><a href="BavliSanhedrin104a" data-aht="source">Bavli Sanhedrin</a><a href="BavliSanhedrin104a" data-aht="source">Sanhedrin 104a</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="TargumYonatanMelakhimI13-11" data-aht="source">Targum Yonatan</a><a href="TargumYonatanMelakhimI13-11" data-aht="source">Melakhim I 13:11</a><a href="Targum Pseudo-Jonathan" data-aht="parshan">About Targum Pseudo-Jonathan</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RashiMelakhimI13-11-20" data-aht="source">Rashi</a><a href="RashiMelakhimI13-11-20" data-aht="source">Melakhim I 13:11-20</a><a href="R. Shelomo Yitzchaki (Rashi)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shelomo Yitzchaki</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RadakMelakhimI13-9-21" data-aht="source">Radak</a><a href="RadakMelakhimI13-9-21" data-aht="source">Melakhim I 13:9-21</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Kimchi</a></multilink>, and <multilink><a href="RalbagMelakhimI13-9-18" data-aht="source">Ralbag</a><a href="RalbagMelakhimI13-9-18" data-aht="source">Melakhim I 13:9-18</a><a href="RalbagMelakhimIToalot13-16" data-aht="source">Melakhim I Toalot 13:16</a><a href="R. Levi b. Gershom (Ralbag, Gersonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Levi b. Gershom</a></multilink> who all agree.</fn>  R. Samet suggests, moreover, that he was closely connected to Yerovam's new religious enterprise and served to give it a prophetic stamp of approval.<fn>Just as the priests of Beit El were not true priests, but replacements, the prophets were similarly false, but nonetheless provided legitimacy for the masses.  Later in Melakhim II 23:18, the נביא הזקן is described as the prophet from Shomron, leading R. Samet to suggest that he was originally from the region of Shomron in Ephraim and was recruited by Yerovam to move to Beit El to help push through his reforms.</fn></point> | <point><b>הנביא מבית אל: True or false  prophet?</b> According to this approach, the prophet from Beit El was a false prophet.<fn>See <multilink><a href="BavliSanhedrin104a" data-aht="source">Bavli Sanhedrin</a><a href="BavliSanhedrin104a" data-aht="source">Sanhedrin 104a</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="TargumYonatanMelakhimI13-11" data-aht="source">Targum Yonatan</a><a href="TargumYonatanMelakhimI13-11" data-aht="source">Melakhim I 13:11</a><a href="Targum Pseudo-Jonathan" data-aht="parshan">About Targum Pseudo-Jonathan</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RashiMelakhimI13-11-20" data-aht="source">Rashi</a><a href="RashiMelakhimI13-11-20" data-aht="source">Melakhim I 13:11-20</a><a href="R. Shelomo Yitzchaki (Rashi)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shelomo Yitzchaki</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RadakMelakhimI13-9-21" data-aht="source">Radak</a><a href="RadakMelakhimI13-9-21" data-aht="source">Melakhim I 13:9-21</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Kimchi</a></multilink>, and <multilink><a href="RalbagMelakhimI13-9-18" data-aht="source">Ralbag</a><a href="RalbagMelakhimI13-9-18" data-aht="source">Melakhim I 13:9-18</a><a href="RalbagMelakhimIToalot13-16" data-aht="source">Melakhim I Toalot 13:16</a><a href="R. Levi b. Gershom (Ralbag, Gersonides)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Levi b. Gershom</a></multilink> who all agree.</fn>  R. Samet suggests, moreover, that he was closely connected to Yerovam's new religious enterprise and served to give it a prophetic stamp of approval.<fn>Just as the priests of Beit El were not true priests, but replacements, the prophets were similarly false, but nonetheless provided legitimacy for the masses.  Later in Melakhim II 23:18, the נביא הזקן is described as the prophet from Shomron, leading R. Samet to suggest that he was originally from the region of Shomron in Ephraim and was recruited by Yerovam to move to Beit El to help push through his reforms.</fn></point> | ||
<point><b>Why wasn't the נביא at the ceremony?</b> T. Verdiger<fn>See her article, <a href="http://herzogpress.herzog.ac.il/gilayon.asp?gilh=%D7%97&ktav=1&gil=8">"ושבתם וראיתם בין צדיק לרשע"</a> in Megadim 8 (Alon Shevut, 1989):97-104</fn> questions that according to R. Samet, it is difficult to understand why the prophet from Beit El was not present at the ceremony during  the holiday, if he was so central to the religious upheaval. <fn>R. Samet does not address the question directly but implies that the prophet intentionally absented himself so as not to directly witness any miraculous signs which might "force" him to recognize the truth of the Man of God's prophecies.  This, though, is not convincing as he would have had no way of knowing upfront what was to occur at the dedication of the altar.  Though one might alternatively suggest that the infirmities of old age kept the prophet home, T. Verdiger correctly points out that the prophet's old age did not prevent him later in the story from pursuing the Man of God.</fn></point> | <point><b>Why wasn't the נביא at the ceremony?</b> T. Verdiger<fn>See her article, <a href="http://herzogpress.herzog.ac.il/gilayon.asp?gilh=%D7%97&ktav=1&gil=8">"ושבתם וראיתם בין צדיק לרשע"</a> in Megadim 8 (Alon Shevut, 1989):97-104</fn> questions that according to R. Samet, it is difficult to understand why the prophet from Beit El was not present at the ceremony during  the holiday, if he was so central to the religious upheaval. <fn>R. Samet does not address the question directly but implies that the prophet intentionally absented himself so as not to directly witness any miraculous signs which might "force" him to recognize the truth of the Man of God's prophecies.  This, though, is not convincing as he would have had no way of knowing upfront what was to occur at the dedication of the altar.  Though one might alternatively suggest that the infirmities of old age kept the prophet home, T. Verdiger correctly points out that the prophet's old age did not prevent him later in the story from pursuing the Man of God.</fn></point> | ||
− | <point><b>The invitation</b> | + | <point><b>The invitation</b><ul> |
+ | <li>According to R. Samet, after the Man of God cast doubt on the legitimacy of the new worship during the dedication ceremony, the prophet from Beit El realized he needed to reaffirm his prophetic position (and thereby, restore Beit El's religious status).  By getting the Man of God to accept his word as the word of Hashem, he could assert himself as the more senior prophet, and "prove" that his stance towards the new worship was the correct one.</li> | ||
+ | <li>Prof. Simon, in contrast, assumes that the fate of the "altar" was less troubling to the old prophet than the prophecy regarding the burial plots, and it was this mainly which he wanted to undo.  He suggests that the act of undoing a prophetic sign, was believed to actively affect the word of God that lay behind the sign.  Thus, the prophet believed that if could reverse the sign relating to proibitions of eating etc. he could also undo the prophecy which lay behind them.</li> | ||
+ | </ul></point> | ||
<point><b>How was the man of God convinced?</b></point> | <point><b>How was the man of God convinced?</b></point> | ||
<point><b>Harsh punishment</b></point> | <point><b>Harsh punishment</b></point> |
Version as of 05:43, 6 December 2017
The Prophet from Beit El
Exegetical Approaches
Reversal of Prophecy
The Prophet from Beit El hoped that by having the Man of God disobey his own words and prophetic sign, he could undo the prophecy against Beit El (and restore legitimacy to the worship taking place there.)
- According to R. Samet, after the Man of God cast doubt on the legitimacy of the new worship during the dedication ceremony, the prophet from Beit El realized he needed to reaffirm his prophetic position (and thereby, restore Beit El's religious status). By getting the Man of God to accept his word as the word of Hashem, he could assert himself as the more senior prophet, and "prove" that his stance towards the new worship was the correct one.
- Prof. Simon, in contrast, assumes that the fate of the "altar" was less troubling to the old prophet than the prophecy regarding the burial plots, and it was this mainly which he wanted to undo. He suggests that the act of undoing a prophetic sign, was believed to actively affect the word of God that lay behind the sign. Thus, the prophet believed that if could reverse the sign relating to proibitions of eating etc. he could also undo the prophecy which lay behind them.
Test of Prophet
The Prophet from Beit El did not know if the Man of God was a legitimate prophet or an emissary sent by Rechovam to attack Beit El for political reasons. His invitation was intended to discover whether or not he truly spoke the word of Hashem.
Act of Altruism
The prophet's motives were misguided, but altruistic. He simply wanted to prevent the Man of God from going home hungry.
Personal Gain
The prophet from Beit El aimed to protect his prophetic business and standing with the king / hoped to sway the Man of God to defect to Beit El and work with him in his prophetic business.