Difference between revisions of "Two Accounts of Shaul's Death/2"
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<point><b>David's double question</b></point> | <point><b>David's double question</b></point> | ||
<point><b>"כִּי אֲחָזַנִי הַשָּׁבָץ"</b> – Ralbag says this verse explains why Shaul didn't totally die when he fell on his sword, because the cloths he was wearing were משובץ, meaning strong so a sword can't go through easily.</point> | <point><b>"כִּי אֲחָזַנִי הַשָּׁבָץ"</b> – Ralbag says this verse explains why Shaul didn't totally die when he fell on his sword, because the cloths he was wearing were משובץ, meaning strong so a sword can't go through easily.</point> | ||
| − | <point><b>Why kill the Amalekite</b> – It is obvious following this reading, that David ordered the killing of the Amalekite because he actually killed Shaul.</point> | + | <point><b>Why kill the Amalekite</b> – It is obvious following this reading, that David ordered the killing of the Amalekite because he actually killed Shaul and was "לֹא יָרֵאתָ לִשְׁלֹחַ יָדְךָ לְשַׁחֵת אֶת מְשִׁיחַ ה'".  Ralbag asks why the Amalekite deserved to be killed, if he did his action fulfilling Shaul's command, and answers that David did this temporarily so people won't easily go and kill the king.</point> |
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<category>Shaul Killed Himself | <category>Shaul Killed Himself | ||
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<point><b>Who killed Shaul</b> – Shaul killed himself, and the Amalekite lied saying that he killed Shaul to find favor in the eyes of David.</point> | <point><b>Who killed Shaul</b> – Shaul killed himself, and the Amalekite lied saying that he killed Shaul to find favor in the eyes of David.</point> | ||
| − | <point><b>Why kill the | + | <point><b>Why kill the Amalekite</b><ul> |
| + | <li>He deserved death (being a rebel) even just for lying</li> | ||
| + | <li>David killed him because he was an Amalekite</li> | ||
| + | </ul></point> | ||
<point><b>Differences</b></point> | <point><b>Differences</b></point> | ||
<point><b>David's double question</b></point> | <point><b>David's double question</b></point> | ||
Version as of 23:54, 3 September 2016
Did the Amalekite Kill Shaul?
Exegetical Approaches
Overview
The Amalekite Killed Shaul
Who killed Shaul – Shaul originally asked his arms bearer to kill him, who refused, so then he tried to fall on his sword unsuccessfully, and only died after the Amalekite killed him completely. According to this approach the Amalekite didn't lie rather actually killed Shaul, just the story in Shemuel I 31 omitted that part of the story.
הַחֶרֶב and חֲנִיתוֹ
הַמּוֹרִים and הָרֶכֶב וּבַעֲלֵי הַפָּרָשִׁים
Why two stories
David's double question
"כִּי אֲחָזַנִי הַשָּׁבָץ" – Ralbag says this verse explains why Shaul didn't totally die when he fell on his sword, because the cloths he was wearing were משובץ, meaning strong so a sword can't go through easily.
Why kill the Amalekite – It is obvious following this reading, that David ordered the killing of the Amalekite because he actually killed Shaul and was "לֹא יָרֵאתָ לִשְׁלֹחַ יָדְךָ לְשַׁחֵת אֶת מְשִׁיחַ ה'". Ralbag asks why the Amalekite deserved to be killed, if he did his action fulfilling Shaul's command, and answers that David did this temporarily so people won't easily go and kill the king.
Shaul Killed Himself
Sources: Second option in Radak, First option in Ralbag, First option in Abarbanel, Prof. Moshe Tzvi Segal, Prof. Yehuda Elitzur, Dr. Yechiel Tzvi Moshkovitz
Who killed Shaul – Shaul killed himself, and the Amalekite lied saying that he killed Shaul to find favor in the eyes of David.
Why kill the Amalekite
- He deserved death (being a rebel) even just for lying
- David killed him because he was an Amalekite
Differences
David's double question
No mention of the lie
The נֵּזֶר and אֶצְעָדָה
