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<p>The ceremony took place on the same day that the Israelites crossed the Jordan River and entered Israel.</p>
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<p>The ceremony at Mt. Eival took place on the same day that the Israelites crossed the Jordan River and entered Israel.</p>
 
<mekorot><multilink><a href="ToseftaSotah8-6-7" data-aht="source">Tosefta Sotah</a><a href="ToseftaSotah8-6-7" data-aht="source">Sotah 8:6-7</a><a href="Tosefta" data-aht="parshan">About the Tosefta</a></multilink>, R. Yehuda and R. Eliezer in <multilink><a href="YerushalmiSotah7-3" data-aht="source">Yerushalmi Sotah</a><a href="YerushalmiSotah7-3" data-aht="source">Sotah 7:3</a><a href="Talmud Yerushalmi" data-aht="parshan">About the Yerushalmi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="BavliSotah36a" data-aht="source">Bavli Sotah</a><a href="BavliSotah35b" data-aht="source">Sotah 35b</a><a href="BavliSotah36a" data-aht="source">Sotah 36a</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RashiDevarim27-2" data-aht="source">Rashi</a><a href="RashiDevarim27-2" data-aht="source">Devarim 27:2</a><a href="RashiYehoshua4-3-920" data-aht="source">Yehoshua 4:3-9, 20</a><a href="RashiYehoshua8-30-33" data-aht="source">Yehoshua 8:30-33</a><a href="R. Shelomo Yitzchaki (Rashi)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shelomo Yitzchaki</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RYosefKaraYehoshua8-30-33" data-aht="source">R. Yosef Kara</a><a href="RYosefKaraYehoshua8-30-33" data-aht="source">Yehoshua 8:30-33</a><a href="R. Yosef Kara" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yosef Kara</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RadakYehoshua8-32-35" data-aht="source">Radak</a><a href="RadakYehoshua8-32-35" data-aht="source">Yehoshua 8:30-35</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Kimchi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RBachyaDevarim27-1-3" data-aht="source">R. Bachya</a><a href="RBachyaDevarim27-1-3" data-aht="source">Devarim 27:1-3</a><a href="R. Bachya b. Asher" data-aht="parshan">About R. Bachya b. Asher</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="HaKetavVeHaKabbalahDevarim27-2" data-aht="source">HaKetav VeHaKabbalah</a><a href="HaKetavVeHaKabbalahDevarim27-2" data-aht="source">Devarim 27:2</a><a href="R. Yaakov Mecklenburg (HaKetav VeHaKabbalah)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yaakov Mecklenburg</a></multilink>, Rav Hirsch</mekorot>
 
<mekorot><multilink><a href="ToseftaSotah8-6-7" data-aht="source">Tosefta Sotah</a><a href="ToseftaSotah8-6-7" data-aht="source">Sotah 8:6-7</a><a href="Tosefta" data-aht="parshan">About the Tosefta</a></multilink>, R. Yehuda and R. Eliezer in <multilink><a href="YerushalmiSotah7-3" data-aht="source">Yerushalmi Sotah</a><a href="YerushalmiSotah7-3" data-aht="source">Sotah 7:3</a><a href="Talmud Yerushalmi" data-aht="parshan">About the Yerushalmi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="BavliSotah36a" data-aht="source">Bavli Sotah</a><a href="BavliSotah35b" data-aht="source">Sotah 35b</a><a href="BavliSotah36a" data-aht="source">Sotah 36a</a><a href="Talmud Bavli" data-aht="parshan">About the Bavli</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RashiDevarim27-2" data-aht="source">Rashi</a><a href="RashiDevarim27-2" data-aht="source">Devarim 27:2</a><a href="RashiYehoshua4-3-920" data-aht="source">Yehoshua 4:3-9, 20</a><a href="RashiYehoshua8-30-33" data-aht="source">Yehoshua 8:30-33</a><a href="R. Shelomo Yitzchaki (Rashi)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Shelomo Yitzchaki</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RYosefKaraYehoshua8-30-33" data-aht="source">R. Yosef Kara</a><a href="RYosefKaraYehoshua8-30-33" data-aht="source">Yehoshua 8:30-33</a><a href="R. Yosef Kara" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yosef Kara</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RadakYehoshua8-32-35" data-aht="source">Radak</a><a href="RadakYehoshua8-32-35" data-aht="source">Yehoshua 8:30-35</a><a href="R. David Kimchi (Radak)" data-aht="parshan">About R. David Kimchi</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="RBachyaDevarim27-1-3" data-aht="source">R. Bachya</a><a href="RBachyaDevarim27-1-3" data-aht="source">Devarim 27:1-3</a><a href="R. Bachya b. Asher" data-aht="parshan">About R. Bachya b. Asher</a></multilink>, <multilink><a href="HaKetavVeHaKabbalahDevarim27-2" data-aht="source">HaKetav VeHaKabbalah</a><a href="HaKetavVeHaKabbalahDevarim27-2" data-aht="source">Devarim 27:2</a><a href="R. Yaakov Mecklenburg (HaKetav VeHaKabbalah)" data-aht="parshan">About R. Yaakov Mecklenburg</a></multilink>, Rav Hirsch</mekorot>
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<point><b>Chronology of the chapters</b> – These commentators all maintain that the event is not recorded in its chronological place (which would have been in Chapter 4) but do not explain the reason for the achronology.</point>
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<point><b>"בַּיּוֹם אֲשֶׁר תַּעַבְרוּ אֶת הַיַּרְדֵּן"</b> – According to this approach, the word "בַּיּוֹם" is understood literally to refer to the very same day that the nation crossed the Jordan River.&#160; It is this directive (and the statement that Yehoshua acted as commanded by Moshe) which motivates them to posit that Yehoshua must not have waited before setting up the ceremony.</point>
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<point><b>Relationship between Devarim 8:1-3 and 8: 4-8</b></point>
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<point><b>How many stones?</b></point>
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<point><b>Purpose of ceremony</b></point>
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<point><b>Where is Har Eival?</b></point>
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<point><b>How did they get to Mt. Eival?</b></point>
 
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Version as of 13:01, 14 December 2016

When Was the Ceremony on Mt. Eival?

Exegetical Approaches

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Before the Conquest

The ceremony at Mt. Eival took place on the same day that the Israelites crossed the Jordan River and entered Israel.

Sources:Tosefta SotahSotah 8:6-7About the Tosefta, R. Yehuda and R. Eliezer in Yerushalmi SotahSotah 7:3About the Yerushalmi, Bavli SotahSotah 35bSotah 36aAbout the Bavli, RashiDevarim 27:2Yehoshua 4:3-9, 20Yehoshua 8:30-33About R. Shelomo Yitzchaki, R. Yosef KaraYehoshua 8:30-33About R. Yosef Kara, RadakYehoshua 8:30-35About R. David Kimchi, R. BachyaDevarim 27:1-3About R. Bachya b. Asher, HaKetav VeHaKabbalahDevarim 27:2About R. Yaakov Mecklenburg, Rav Hirsch
Chronology of the chapters – These commentators all maintain that the event is not recorded in its chronological place (which would have been in Chapter 4) but do not explain the reason for the achronology.
"בַּיּוֹם אֲשֶׁר תַּעַבְרוּ אֶת הַיַּרְדֵּן" – According to this approach, the word "בַּיּוֹם" is understood literally to refer to the very same day that the nation crossed the Jordan River.  It is this directive (and the statement that Yehoshua acted as commanded by Moshe) which motivates them to posit that Yehoshua must not have waited before setting up the ceremony.
Relationship between Devarim 8:1-3 and 8: 4-8
How many stones?
Purpose of ceremony
Where is Har Eival?
How did they get to Mt. Eival?

Mid-Conquest

The nation went to Mt. Eival after defeating the Ai and gaining access to the vicinity.

Sources:Ralbag?, AbarbanelDevarim 27:1About R. Yitzchak Abarbanel, ?shadal?

After the Conquest

The Israelites first performed the ceremony after the 14 years of conquest and inheritance.

Sources:JosephusAntiquities of the Jews 5:1:19About Josephus, R. Yishmael in Yerushalmi SotahSotah 7:3About the Yerushalmi

Two Stages

The nation fulfilled Moshe's command in two stages.  Though the first stage took place immediately after entry into Israel, the completed ceremony only occurred later.

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