Difference between revisions of "When Did the Ceremony on Mt. Eival Occur/2"
Jump to navigation
Jump to search
This topic has not yet undergone editorial review
m |
|||
| Line 14: | Line 14: | ||
<point><b>How did they get to Mt. Eival?</b> This position must explain how the entire nation (including children)<fn>See <a href="Yehoshua8-30-35" data-aht="source">Yehoshua 8:35</a>, which speaks of the all inclusive nature of the ceremony (כׇּל קְהַל" "יִשְׂרָאֵל וְהַנָּשִׁים וְהַטַּף וְהַגֵּר הַהֹלֵךְ בְּקִרְבָּם)</fn> could have traveled all the way from Gilgal to Mt. Eival (and back) in one day, especially if this was in still unconquered territory.  The commentators offer two possible solutions:<br/> | <point><b>How did they get to Mt. Eival?</b> This position must explain how the entire nation (including children)<fn>See <a href="Yehoshua8-30-35" data-aht="source">Yehoshua 8:35</a>, which speaks of the all inclusive nature of the ceremony (כׇּל קְהַל" "יִשְׂרָאֵל וְהַנָּשִׁים וְהַטַּף וְהַגֵּר הַהֹלֵךְ בְּקִרְבָּם)</fn> could have traveled all the way from Gilgal to Mt. Eival (and back) in one day, especially if this was in still unconquered territory.  The commentators offer two possible solutions:<br/> | ||
<ul> | <ul> | ||
| − | <li><b>Miracle</b> – Tosefta Sotah places Mt. Eival near Shekhem,<fn>This choice of site is supported by the description of the mountains being "אֵצֶל אֵלוֹנֵי מֹרֶה", which appears to be in the vicinity of Shekhem.  See Bereshit 12:6, "וַיַּעֲבֹר אַבְרָם בָּאָרֶץ עַד מְקוֹם שְׁכֶם עַד אֵלוֹן מוֹרֶה."  R. Yehudah in the Sifre explains the phrase, "דֶּרֶךְ מְבוֹא הַשֶּׁמֶשׁ" to refer to where the sun rises, allowing for a western location.  Finally, the problematic marker "מוּל הַגִּלְגָּל" could be explained, as does <a href="ShadalDevarim11-30" data-aht="source">Shadal </a>, to refer not to the Gilgal of Yehoshua 4, but to a site of the same name in the central region of the land.</fn> but asserts that Hashem miraculously brought the nation there.</li> | + | <li><b>Miracle</b> – Tosefta Sotah places Mt. Eival near Shekhem,<fn>This choice of site is supported by the description of the mountains being "אֵצֶל אֵלוֹנֵי מֹרֶה", which appears to be in the vicinity of Shekhem.  See Bereshit 12:6, "וַיַּעֲבֹר אַבְרָם בָּאָרֶץ עַד מְקוֹם שְׁכֶם עַד אֵלוֹן מוֹרֶה."  R. Yehudah in the Sifre explains the phrase, "דֶּרֶךְ מְבוֹא הַשֶּׁמֶשׁ" to refer to where the sun rises, allowing for a western location.  Finally, the problematic marker "מוּל הַגִּלְגָּל" could be explained, as does <a href="ShadalDevarim11-30" data-aht="source">Shadal </a>, to refer not to the Gilgal of Yehoshua 4, but to a site of the same name in the central region of the land.</fn> but asserts that Hashem miraculously brought the nation there.  It is also possible that the area had already been in Israel's hands from the Patriarchal period.<fn>According to this possibility, the nation would still require miraculous assistance to have safely (and quickly) reach the vicinity, but could explain in a more natural way, why it was a safe place to hold the ceremony.</fn></li> |
<li><b>Different mountain</b> – R. Eliezer,<fn>See his opinion in the <a href="SifreDevarim11-30" data-aht="source">Sifre</a> and <a href="YerushalmiSotah7-3" data-aht="source">Yerushalmi Sotah 7:3</a>.  See also R. Elazar in the Yerushalmi who similarly says, "שתי גבשושיות עשו וקראו זה הר גריזים וזה הר עיבל".</fn> in contrast, maintains that the verses refers not to the Mt. Eival which is near Shekhem, but to two mountains that are close to the Jordan.<fn>This position is likely motivated not only by textual concerns, but by polemical ones as well.  It attempts to rid all basis to the Samaritan's claims regarding the holiness of Mt. Gerzim in the area of Shekhem.  Not only was the altar built on Mt. Eival and not Mt. Gerzim, but the entire ceremony took place in a different geographical location.</fn> As evidence he points to Torah's description of the site as being "מוּל הַגִּלְגָּל".‎<fn>As futher support, he points to the phrase, "בְּעֵבֶר הַיַּרְדֵּן," explaining that the Torah is saying that the site is close to the Jordan.  In addition the term "דֶּרֶךְ מְבוֹא הַשֶּׁמֶשׁ" suggests that is in an area in which the sun sets, some place in the east..</fn></li> | <li><b>Different mountain</b> – R. Eliezer,<fn>See his opinion in the <a href="SifreDevarim11-30" data-aht="source">Sifre</a> and <a href="YerushalmiSotah7-3" data-aht="source">Yerushalmi Sotah 7:3</a>.  See also R. Elazar in the Yerushalmi who similarly says, "שתי גבשושיות עשו וקראו זה הר גריזים וזה הר עיבל".</fn> in contrast, maintains that the verses refers not to the Mt. Eival which is near Shekhem, but to two mountains that are close to the Jordan.<fn>This position is likely motivated not only by textual concerns, but by polemical ones as well.  It attempts to rid all basis to the Samaritan's claims regarding the holiness of Mt. Gerzim in the area of Shekhem.  Not only was the altar built on Mt. Eival and not Mt. Gerzim, but the entire ceremony took place in a different geographical location.</fn> As evidence he points to Torah's description of the site as being "מוּל הַגִּלְגָּל".‎<fn>As futher support, he points to the phrase, "בְּעֵבֶר הַיַּרְדֵּן," explaining that the Torah is saying that the site is close to the Jordan.  In addition the term "דֶּרֶךְ מְבוֹא הַשֶּׁמֶשׁ" suggests that is in an area in which the sun sets, some place in the east..</fn></li> | ||
</ul></point> | </ul></point> | ||
Version as of 10:12, 15 December 2016
When Was the Ceremony on Mt. Eival?
Exegetical Approaches
Before the Conquest
The ceremony at Mt. Eival took place on the same day that the Israelites crossed the Jordan River and entered Israel.
Sources:Tosefta Sotah, R. Yehuda and R. Eliezer in Yerushalmi Sotah, Bavli Sotah, Rashi, R. Yosef Kara, Radak, R. Bachya, HaKetav VeHaKabbalah, Rav Hirsch
Chronology of the chapters – These commentators all maintain that the event is not recorded in its chronological place (which would have been in Chapter 4) but do not explain the reason for the achronology.
"בַּיּוֹם אֲשֶׁר תַּעַבְרוּ אֶת הַיַּרְדֵּן" – According to this approach, the word "בַּיּוֹם" is understood literally to refer to the very same day that the nation crossed the Jordan River. It is this directive (and the statement that Yehoshua acted as commanded by Moshe) which motivates them to posit that Yehoshua must not have waited before setting up the ceremony.
How did they get to Mt. Eival? This position must explain how the entire nation (including children)1 could have traveled all the way from Gilgal to Mt. Eival (and back) in one day, especially if this was in still unconquered territory. The commentators offer two possible solutions:
- Miracle – Tosefta Sotah places Mt. Eival near Shekhem,2 but asserts that Hashem miraculously brought the nation there. It is also possible that the area had already been in Israel's hands from the Patriarchal period.3
- Different mountain – R. Eliezer,4 in contrast, maintains that the verses refers not to the Mt. Eival which is near Shekhem, but to two mountains that are close to the Jordan.5 As evidence he points to Torah's description of the site as being "מוּל הַגִּלְגָּל".6
Relationship between Devarim 8:1-3 and 8:4-8
How many stones?
Purpose of ceremony
Why these mountians
Mid-Conquest
The nation went to Mt. Eival after defeating the Ai and gaining access to the vicinity.
Sources:Ralbag?, Abarbanel, ?shadal?
After the Conquest
The Israelites first performed the ceremony after the 14 years of conquest and inheritance.
Two Stages
The nation fulfilled Moshe's command in two stages. Though the first stage took place immediately after entry into Israel, the completed ceremony only occurred later.
