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<point><b>Chronology of the chapters</b> – These commentators all maintain that the event is not recorded in its chronological place (which would have been in Chapter 4) but do not explain the reason for the achronology.</point>
 
<point><b>Chronology of the chapters</b> – These commentators all maintain that the event is not recorded in its chronological place (which would have been in Chapter 4) but do not explain the reason for the achronology.</point>
 
<point><b>"בַּיּוֹם אֲשֶׁר תַּעַבְרוּ אֶת הַיַּרְדֵּן"</b> – According to this approach, the word "בַּיּוֹם" is understood literally to refer to the very same day that the nation crossed the Jordan River.&#160; It is this directive (and the statement that Yehoshua acted as commanded by Moshe) which motivates them to posit that Yehoshua must not have waited before setting up the ceremony.</point>
 
<point><b>"בַּיּוֹם אֲשֶׁר תַּעַבְרוּ אֶת הַיַּרְדֵּן"</b> – According to this approach, the word "בַּיּוֹם" is understood literally to refer to the very same day that the nation crossed the Jordan River.&#160; It is this directive (and the statement that Yehoshua acted as commanded by Moshe) which motivates them to posit that Yehoshua must not have waited before setting up the ceremony.</point>
<point><b>How did they get to Mt. Eival?</b> This position must explain how the entire nation (including children)<fn>See <a href="Yehoshua8-30-35" data-aht="source">Yehoshua 8:35</a>, which speaks of the all inclusive nature of the ceremony (כׇּל קְהַל" "יִשְׂרָאֵל וְהַנָּשִׁים וְהַטַּף וְהַגֵּר הַהֹלֵךְ בְּקִרְבָּם)</fn> could have traveled all the way from Gilgal to Mt. Eival (and back) in one day, especially if this was in still unconquered territory.&#160; The commentators offer two possible solutions:<br/>
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<point><b>How did they get to Mt. Eival?</b> This position must explain how the entire nation (including children)<fn>See <a href="Yehoshua8-30-35" data-aht="source">Yehoshua 8:35</a>, which speaks of the all inclusive nature of the ceremony (כׇּל קְהַל" "יִשְׂרָאֵל וְהַנָּשִׁים וְהַטַּף וְהַגֵּר הַהֹלֵךְ בְּקִרְבָּם)</fn> could have traveled all the way from Gilgal to Mt. Eival (and back) in one day, especially if this was in still unconquered territory.<fn>Though it is possible that the area of Shekhem itself had already been in Israel's hands from the Patriarchal period, the rest of the route from Gilgal to Mt. Eival would necessitate going through enemy territory.</fn>&#160; The commentators offer two possible solutions:<br/>
 
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<li><b>Miracle</b> – Tosefta Sotah places Mt. Eival near Shekhem,<fn>This choice of site is supported by the description of the mountains being "אֵצֶל אֵלוֹנֵי מֹרֶה", which appears to be in the vicinity of Shekhem.&#160; See Bereshit 12:6, "וַיַּעֲבֹר אַבְרָם בָּאָרֶץ עַד מְקוֹם שְׁכֶם עַד אֵלוֹן מוֹרֶה."&#160; R. Yehudah in the Sifre explains the phrase, "דֶּרֶךְ מְבוֹא הַשֶּׁמֶשׁ" to refer to where the sun rises, allowing for a western location.&#160; Finally, the problematic marker "מוּל הַגִּלְגָּל" could be explained, as does <a href="ShadalDevarim11-30" data-aht="source">Shadal </a>, to refer not to the Gilgal of Yehoshua 4, but to a site of the same name in the central region of the land.</fn> but asserts that Hashem miraculously brought the nation there.&#160; It is also possible that the area had already been in Israel's hands from the Patriarchal period.<fn>According to this possibility, the nation would still require miraculous assistance to have safely (and quickly) reach the vicinity, but could explain in a more natural way, why it was a safe place to hold the ceremony.</fn></li>
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<li><b>Miracle</b> – Tosefta Sotah places Mt. Eival near Shekhem,<fn>This choice of site is supported by the description of the mountains being "אֵצֶל אֵלוֹנֵי מֹרֶה", which appears to be in the vicinity of Shekhem.&#160; See Bereshit 12:6, "וַיַּעֲבֹר אַבְרָם בָּאָרֶץ עַד מְקוֹם שְׁכֶם עַד אֵלוֹן מוֹרֶה."&#160; R. Yehudah in the Sifre explains the phrase, "דֶּרֶךְ מְבוֹא הַשֶּׁמֶשׁ" to refer to where the sun rises, allowing for a western location.&#160; Finally, the problematic marker "מוּל הַגִּלְגָּל" could be explained, as does <a href="ShadalDevarim11-30" data-aht="source">Shadal </a>, to refer not to the Gilgal of Yehoshua 4, but to a site of the same name in the central region of the land.</fn> but asserts that Hashem miraculously brought the nation there.</li>
<li><b>Different mountain</b> – R. Eliezer,<fn>See his opinion in the <a href="SifreDevarim11-30" data-aht="source">Sifre</a> and <a href="YerushalmiSotah7-3" data-aht="source">Yerushalmi Sotah 7:3</a>.&#160; See also R. Elazar in the Yerushalmi who similarly says, "שתי גבשושיות עשו וקראו זה הר גריזים וזה הר עיבל".</fn> in contrast, maintains that the verses refers not to the Mt. Eival which is near Shekhem, but to two mountains that are close to the Jordan.<fn>This position is likely motivated not only by textual concerns, but by polemical ones as well.&#160; It attempts to rid all basis to the Samaritan's claims regarding the holiness of Mt. Gerzim in the area of Shekhem.&#160; Not only was the altar built on Mt. Eival and not Mt. Gerzim, but the entire ceremony took place in a different geographical location.</fn> As evidence he points to Torah's description of the site as being "מוּל הַגִּלְגָּל".&#8206;<fn>As futher support, he points to the phrase, "בְּעֵבֶר הַיַּרְדֵּן," explaining that the Torah is saying that the site is close to the Jordan.&#160; In addition the term "דֶּרֶךְ מְבוֹא הַשֶּׁמֶשׁ" suggests that is in an area in which the sun sets, some place in the east..</fn></li>
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<li><b>Different mountain</b> – R. Eliezer,<fn>See his opinion in the <a href="SifreDevarim11-30" data-aht="source">Sifre</a> and <a href="YerushalmiSotah7-3" data-aht="source">Yerushalmi Sotah 7:3</a>.&#160; See also R. Elazar in the Yerushalmi who similarly says, "שתי גבשושיות עשו וקראו זה הר גריזים וזה הר עיבל".</fn> in contrast, maintains that the verses refers not to the Mt. Eival which is near Shekhem, but to two mountains that are close to the Jordan.<fn>This position is likely motivated not only by textual concerns, but by polemical ones as well.&#160; It attempts to rid all basis to the Samaritan's claims regarding the holiness of Mt. Gerzim in the area of Shekhem.&#160; Not only was the altar built on Mt. Eival and not Mt. Gerzim, but the entire ceremony took place in a different geographical location.</fn> As evidence, he points to the Torah's description of the site as being "מוּל הַגִּלְגָּל".&#8206;<fn>As futher support, he points to the phrase, "בְּעֵבֶר הַיַּרְדֵּן," explaining that the Torah is saying that the site is close to the Jordan.&#160; In addition the term "דֶּרֶךְ מְבוֹא הַשֶּׁמֶשׁ" suggests that is in an area in which the sun sets, some place in the east..</fn></li>
 
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<point><b>Relationship between Devarim 8:1-3 and 8:4-8</b></point>
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<point><b>Relationship between Devarim 8:1-3 and 8:4-8</b> – These sources differ in how they explain the doubling:<br/>
<point><b>How many stones?</b></point>
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<point><b>Purpose of ceremony</b></point>
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<li><b>Two commandments</b> – According to Rashi the two sets of verses constitute two distinct commandments.&#160; Verses 1-3 refer to the stones that were to be set up in the Jordan, while verses 4-8 refer to the stones which were to be erected on Mt. Eival.<fn>This is a somewhat difficult read.&#160; First of all, the Jordan is not mentioned at all in the verses and must be assumed. HaKetav VeHaKabbalah further notes that the Torah was not written on the stones set up in the river.&#160; Finally, verse 4 speaks of the stones of Mt. Eival as being "הָאֲבָנִים <b>הָאֵלֶּה</b>", apparently equating them with those spoken of earlier.</fn></li>
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<li><b>כלל ופרט</b> – R. Bachya, in contrast, asserts that all of the verses speak of the stones used in the ceremony at Mt. Eival.<fn>This is supported by the fact that verse 4 speaks of "הָאֲבָנִים <b>הָאֵלֶּה</b>", referring back to the stones previously mentioned.</fn>&#160; The doubling is simply a "כלל ופרט", a literary technique in which a unit opens with a general statement whose details are then elaborated upon.</li>
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<point><b>How many stones?</b> According to most of these sources, Sefer Yehoshua speaks of two sets of stones, those that were set up in the river itself (Yehoshua 4:9) and those that were taken from the Jordan to Mt. Eival for the ceremony. This last set was then brought back to Gilgal and erected there to serve as a memorial.</point>
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<point><b>Purpose of the ceremony</b></point>
 
<point><b>Why now?</b></point>
 
<point><b>Why now?</b></point>
 
<point><b>Why these mountians</b></point>
 
<point><b>Why these mountians</b></point>

Version as of 05:13, 16 December 2016

When Was the Ceremony on Mt. Eival?

Exegetical Approaches

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Before the Conquest

The ceremony at Mt. Eival took place on the same day that the Israelites crossed the Jordan River and entered Israel.

Chronology of the chapters – These commentators all maintain that the event is not recorded in its chronological place (which would have been in Chapter 4) but do not explain the reason for the achronology.
"בַּיּוֹם אֲשֶׁר תַּעַבְרוּ אֶת הַיַּרְדֵּן" – According to this approach, the word "בַּיּוֹם" is understood literally to refer to the very same day that the nation crossed the Jordan River.  It is this directive (and the statement that Yehoshua acted as commanded by Moshe) which motivates them to posit that Yehoshua must not have waited before setting up the ceremony.
How did they get to Mt. Eival? This position must explain how the entire nation (including children)1 could have traveled all the way from Gilgal to Mt. Eival (and back) in one day, especially if this was in still unconquered territory.2  The commentators offer two possible solutions:
  • Miracle – Tosefta Sotah places Mt. Eival near Shekhem,3 but asserts that Hashem miraculously brought the nation there.
  • Different mountain – R. Eliezer,4 in contrast, maintains that the verses refers not to the Mt. Eival which is near Shekhem, but to two mountains that are close to the Jordan.5 As evidence, he points to the Torah's description of the site as being "מוּל הַגִּלְגָּל".‎6
Relationship between Devarim 8:1-3 and 8:4-8 – These sources differ in how they explain the doubling:
  • Two commandments – According to Rashi the two sets of verses constitute two distinct commandments.  Verses 1-3 refer to the stones that were to be set up in the Jordan, while verses 4-8 refer to the stones which were to be erected on Mt. Eival.7
  • כלל ופרט – R. Bachya, in contrast, asserts that all of the verses speak of the stones used in the ceremony at Mt. Eival.8  The doubling is simply a "כלל ופרט", a literary technique in which a unit opens with a general statement whose details are then elaborated upon.
How many stones? According to most of these sources, Sefer Yehoshua speaks of two sets of stones, those that were set up in the river itself (Yehoshua 4:9) and those that were taken from the Jordan to Mt. Eival for the ceremony. This last set was then brought back to Gilgal and erected there to serve as a memorial.
Purpose of the ceremony
Why now?
Why these mountians

Mid-Conquest

The nation went to Mt. Eival after defeating the Ai and gaining access to the vicinity.

After the Conquest

The Israelites first performed the ceremony after the 14 years of conquest and inheritance.

Two Stages

The nation fulfilled Moshe's command in two stages.  Though the first stage took place immediately after entry into Israel, the completed ceremony only occurred later.